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        <![CDATA[ Editing determines in great part how we perceive the
players. We have seen the editors categorize different
types of people and edit them in a certain fashion.




One popular type of edit is that of the &quot;Player on a Journey&quot;:




The Journey of Self-Discovery.


These players are often narrators. Many get a lot of screen time and are often very popular players but, if all we get to hear about is the journey rather than
the goal, these players aren&#39;t winners. How to recognize... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: The Characters and their Roles.  Micronesia update p.3  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong>craig wrote:
  <br></strong>
  <br>
  Very good Panurge, I enjoy reading your analysis. Got me thinking.
  <br>
  <br>
  Ozzy wasn&#39;t hero or villian, he was &quot;The Player to Beat&quot;... Ozzy&#39;s heroic superman edit peaked in ep.4 when he found the idol, starred in a
  challenge, and was praised by the fans.
  <br>
  <br>
  Finally, I don&#39;t think &quot;scheming too much is bad&quot; was a major theme. Postmerge is was female brains overcoming male brawn.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">craig wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Very good Panurge, I enjoy reading your analysis. Got me thinking.
  <br>
  <br>
  Ozzy wasn&#39;t hero or villian, he was &quot;The Player to Beat.&quot; Beating Ozzy was one of the major themes of the season.
  <br>
  <br>
  Jason was all about beating Ozzy. He could have been edited as a villian or jerk like Joel (he was widely hated), but he won a certain respect battling Ozzy.
  His tribe won 4 straight ICs, he... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: The Characters and their Roles.  Micronesia update p.3  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Very good Panurge, I enjoy reading your analysis. Got me thinking.
<br>
<br>
Ozzy wasn&#39;t hero or villian, he was &quot;The Player to Beat.&quot; Beating Ozzy was one of the major themes of the season.
<br>
<br>
Jason was all about beating Ozzy. He could have been edited as a villian or jerk like Joel (he was widely hated), but he won a certain respect battling Ozzy.
His tribe won 4 straight ICs, he beat Ozzy in a water IC, he outlasted Ozzy, he even voted for Parv because she got Ozzy... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: The Characters and their Roles.  Micronesia update p.3  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>I meant during the merge episode for Jason is when he turned into the underdog even though he was still a dumb player in a sense. They were reinforcing it
by how he had no friends and how he had to win immunity that sort of things.</p>

<p>The rest I can understand even though I don&#39;t agree 100%.</p> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title"><strong class="quote-title">Thailandsurvivor</strong> wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Disagree on Jason, James, Ozzy, and Amanda.
  <br>
  <br>
  Jason was more of an underdog who people learned to appreciate and somehow root for... Yeah he was a dumb player, but it wasn&#39;t 100% the storyline he
  got.
  <br>
  <br>
  James was a tourist for most of the season
  <br>
  <br>
  Ozzy to me was more of a villian than a hero
  <br>
  <br>
  <br>
  Ami started... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Disagree on Jason, James, Ozzy, and Amanda.
<br>
<br>
Jason was more of an underdog who people learned to appreciate and somehow root for even though he started the season off as an arrogant jerk. He became
sympathetic like Erik in the episode where Parvati called him a loser. Yeah he was a dumb player, but it wasn&#39;t 100% the storyline he got.
<br>
<br>
James was a tourist for most of the season and really didn&#39;t say or do anything until the immunity challenge during Ozzy&#39;s boot... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Good work but I&#39;m not reading all that
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-CA">To identify the Roles that the Characters were playing,
it&#39;s good to start with the <strong>Themes of the Season:</strong></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-CA"> </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-CA"><br>
I saw 4 major themes that came up... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ panurge love The read was really sweet.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">mtj1282 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>

  <p>Now just so I understand your posts, specifically the china contestant post, you are basing your comments only on what we were shown, not how things
  actually were, correct?</p>
</blockquote>

<p> 
<br></p>Yes, I based my comments on what I saw on the show, trying to read the story that Burnett presented to us each week. The episode comments for each of
the China castaways had been written in the day or so after... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>Now just so I understand your posts, specifically the china contestant post, you are basing your comments only on what we were shown, not how things
actually were, correct?</p> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ What I was refering to as the contradiction is taht you had said : By definition, a villain is: A scoundrel in a story. A scoundrel is: A mean, worthless
person. Burnett is banking millions on the outcome of every season, his winner certainly cannot be worthless.
<br>
<br>
But then go on to say Jenna is not a villian when she in fact had some of the qualities/characteristics of the above definition of villian! Thats what I was
mean when I said that it seemed like you may have contradicted... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There&#39;s certainly been a lot of talks about villians lately:
<br>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">mtj1282 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  So doesnt that contradict some of waht you said in the big long post of yours in another thread lol (dont remember the title to the thread). I mean some of
  the people you said were villains werent mean and werent worthless! You also said jenna isnt a villian, and if you go by the editing she was mean!
</blockquote>

<p> I wish you&#39;d... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>I have edited the original post to include references in the text. I want to tell readers that my intention wasn&#39;t to mislead them.</p>

<p>My idea was to explain how different players are portrayed to fit certain roles and how, often, those edits are interdependent. We often hear that a player
had a &quot;bad edit&quot;, I wanted to show that there is often more to it than that. Sometimes, there are reasons why certain players are hidden Even more,
if we identify the roles of the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with Trixiego.  He should have referenced Veruca because he&#39;s trying to look like he came up with these ideas
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">RavuRules wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  To be fair, panurge46 has referenced Vercua Salt to me before, so he&#39;s not trying to pass off these ideas as his own or anything like that.
  <br>
</blockquote>

<p> It has nothing to do with fair. Referencing to you is all well and good but if it isn&#39;t being referenced publicly someone could construe that their
ideas are being ripped off; panurge did not state Veruca Salt blah blah blah.  panurge, we link... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Chet - an old Brandon season 3
<br>
Natalie - bitch
<br>
Michael - bully; thinks he control the game but he&#39;s not
<br>
Kathy - complainer
<br>
Tracy - bossy
<br>
Alexis - good at challenges, strategic
<br>
Erik - funny and strategic
<br>
Jason - cocky but good
<br>
Joel - well-liked and good at challenges
<br>
Mary- follower
<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know.
<br>
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			<description><![CDATA[ To be fair, panurge46 has referenced Vercua Salt to me before, so he&#39;s not trying to pass off these ideas as his own or anything like that.  Nice post in
regards to the Becky and CI story talk panurge46.  You asked me for a Becky story explanation and I gave it!  I don&#39;t think the winner edit has to be the
strongest story.  Danni&#39;s wasn&#39;t, since she was overshadowed by Stephenie.  So although it might have been a big theme, few really recognized it as
such.  Becky did have... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I wasn&#39;t sure what was the proper etiquette or if it was even allowed to mention other boards but yes, Veruca Salt&#39;s editing thread on Blows, of which
I have been a participant for the last 7 seasons, has been a source of inspiration. Classifying the winners in &quot;Clinical&quot;, &quot;Head of Family&quot;
and &quot;UTR&quot; players come from her. The musical friend I mentioned was applejacks. The different roles for the characters come from my own notes. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Uh panurge, this is a good read but you really should give some nods to that Blows thread, some of what you wrote sounds just like what was written by them
cause I&#39;ve read it.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-CA">Editing determines in great part how we perceive the
players.</span> <span lang="EN-CA" style="COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-CA; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">We have seen the editors categorize different
types of people and edit them in a certain fashion.</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"... ]]></description>

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