An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals http://survivorsucks.com/topic/21912/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:23:28 GMT Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:52:54 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://survivorsucks.com/topic/21912/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3906823/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3906823 PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote:
your original hypothesis was all about how you wanted to keep people like Courtney and Denise from making the Final Four because they were "weaklings"
I quoted "weaklings" for a reason, which you missed, because you are still not "fully aware".

The point is that the current system allows untested players to be carried along without doing... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3906823 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:52:50 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3906090/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3906090
(I'm being sarcastic ;) Kenc c <3) ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Survivaholic) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3906090 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:14:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905617/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905617 all the different aspects of the game of Survivor and I applaud you for it. I'm really really really...really surprised that Burnett himself... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (kenc333) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905617 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:29:35 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905553/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905553 Olmec Donald wrote:
Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:
He's also broughten up things like the "prisoners dilemma" which would be fine for a challenge maybe, but would make little sense as a twist.
You obviously don't understand the concept behind Prisoner's Dilemma. It's been used as a twist before (Thailand, Cooks).
... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905553 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:13:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905551/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905551 Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:
He's also broughten up things like the "prisoners dilemma" which would be fine for a challenge maybe, but would make little sense as a twist. You obviously don't understand the concept behind Prisoner's Dilemma. It's been used as a twist before (Thailand, Cooks).

]]> feeds@yuku.com (Olmec Donald) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905551 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:12:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905545/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905545 PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote:
Weird. Because your original hypothesis was all about how you wanted to keep people like Courtney and Denise from making the Final Four because they were "weaklings" in your view. Now you're going back on your idea and saying that they couldn't be defined. Can't speak for Artie, but the way I see it, weaklings in the current system become more apparent as the season... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Olmec Donald) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905545 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:11:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905415/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905415 feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905415 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:32:09 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905267/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905267 Under the current system, the players can't be defined since they are not equally tested, being on artificially selected "teams" Weird. Because your original hypothesis was all about how you wanted to keep people like Courtney and Denise from making the Final Four because they were "weaklings" in your view. Now you're going back on your idea and saying that they couldn't be defined.

Actually, looking back at your original... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905267 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:44:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3905248/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3905248 ExileIslander wrote:
this is not entirely an Olympic Game where you can win because you are physically stronger, it's not an entirely a Math or Chess Challenge where you can outplayed others by using your brain. It's not entirely a Poker game where you can fluff and get lucked !!!. It's a combination of the above...
Which is why my system combines various challenges, just like the current game post... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3905248 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:39:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3903897/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3903897
You system is bullshit! Let me tell you why and you can go back and edit your first post :

. You failed to define the game of Survivors and its participants, this is not entirely an Olympic Game where you can win because you are physically stronger, it's not an entirely a Math or Chess Challenge where you can outplayed others by using your brain. It's not entirely a Poker game where you can fluff and get lucked !!!. It's a combination of the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ExileIslander) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3903897 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:54:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3903649/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3903649 But what are you playing, exactly? Who can unscramble words first, and who can guess the right numbers? The first is a minor skill, but second is luck. You might as well be asking this question about the challenges in the show. What are you playing in your standard season of Survivor? Who can solve a slide puzzle the fastest, and who can navigate the usual series of pontoons, balance beams, and canoes?

And that second challenge you mentioned wasn't... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3903649 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:33:13 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3903334/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3903334 PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote:
Actually, I'd say the competitiveness of an ORG is more than the actual show. No one does them to have "a great experience" like so many Survivors (since it's not like you're living in a beautiful exotic location or anything), nor is anyone just seeking exposure for their modeling or acting gigs. People play them to win.
But what are you playing, exactly? Who... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3903334 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:29:36 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3901022/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3901022 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3901022 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:15:03 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3900772/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3900772 PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote:
Except for the whole "incentive to win and not lose" thing. I'm sure you're "fully aware" now of how my system works, run an ORG based on the rules.
Right, because the main incentive in Survivor is to win luxury, not to be immune. image
Right, because... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3900772 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:29:41 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3899528/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3899528 Except for the whole "incentive to win and not lose" thing. I'm sure you're "fully aware" now of how my system works, run an ORG based on the rules. Right, because the main incentive in Survivor is to win luxury, not to be immune. image
]]> feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3899528 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:55:21 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3899041/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3899041 PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote:
they're varied enough to test your system pretty effectively.
Except for the whole "incentive to win and not lose" thing. I'm sure you're "fully aware" now of how my system works, run an ORG based on the rules.



]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3899041 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:50:43 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3896368/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3896368

I'm not saying that ORG challenges are as epic as ones on TV, but they're varied enough to test your system pretty effectively. Some people are consistently good at them, while others are good at certain types (like word puzzles) but bad at others (like quizzes or speed-based challenges).
]]> feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3896368 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:10:43 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3895731/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3895731 PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote:
if he wants to look at ORG challenges, here
"First person to post the unscrambled word in RED wins immunity."

image

"You will each be assigned a number from 1-12 and there will be a few numbers not used. You are to try and guess another person's... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3895731 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:43:16 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3894972/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3894972
The vendetta against Artie is so great that the ORG players would probably intentionally manipulate the boots to make the system look like a failure.
Not if he recruited players who aren't really familiar with this board or with his theory (meaning none of us, obviously, but there are plenty of people out there on other boards). And if he wants to look at ORG challenges, here are the post-merge challenges from the largest game I ever played... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3894972 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:03:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/reply/3894920/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html#reply-3894920 m0t0 maj1 wrote:
Olmec Donald wrote:

m0t0 maj1 wrote:
This idea = Project Runway
FOAD asswipe. You have contributed absolutely nothing to this discussion. Don't defile this thread with your disgusting prescence.

This thread is... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Olmec Donald) http://survivorsucks.com/sreply/3894920 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:21:05 GMT <![CDATA[ An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals ]]> http://survivorsucks.com/topic/21912/t/-idea--improve-Survivor---weaklings-dont-comprise--finals.html In the current system, it is often the weakest players who get immunity, not by earning it, but only because on episode one, during the artificial team selections they were lucky enough to land on a winning team of players who do earn it. The current system fails because it rewards the weak and penalizes the strong, by this introducing luck. Any and every single time this happens, it changes the entire outcome of the game. Redo the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ArtieeLange) http://survivorsucks.com/topic/21912 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:23:28 GMT