Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (WatchMeNext) — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:15:15 GMT

Oowatanite wrote:
Anyone who still thinks that all challenges and twists are pre-planned and not ever changed and that there is no manipulation by production is incredibly naive.

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (lemurwrench) — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:06:10 GMT

Oowatanite wrote:
Anyone who still thinks that all challenges and twists are pre-planned and not ever changed and that there is no manipulation by production is incredibly naive.

im not necessarily gonna say that. I don't have a hard time...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (Genesis) — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:45:37 GMT

Sugar is a genius!

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (Oowatanite) — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:24:59 GMT

Anyone who still thinks that all challenges and twists are pre-planned and not ever changed and that there is no manipulation by production is incredibly naive.

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (lemurwrench) — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:05:30 GMT

cardswin5 wrote:
I love how Oowatanite acts like that twist wasn't planned out way before the start of the game. They were all so hateful and jealous of his precious Marcus that they just decided to add a twist where they rigged the numbers people pulled out of a damn bag, just so he wouldn't win. If you hate it so much then don't watch the damn show.

X

honestly, why...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (NickF227) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:37:57 GMT

Oo, you need to get off your high horse....

TPTB realize that Marcus is a character that the casual viewer would love...

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY RIG IT AGAINST HIM?

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (cardswin5) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:33:03 GMT

I love how Oowatanite acts like that twist wasn't planned out way before the start of the game. They were all so hateful and jealous of his precious Marcus that they just decided to add a twist where they rigged the numbers people pulled out of a damn bag, just so he wouldn't win. If you hate it so much then don't watch the damn show.

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (lemurwrench) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:23:14 GMT

iif they dont know susie is gonna fltp, or if they tell her before they figure it out, susie can provide for that.

they might even try to get sugar to vote with them like they did this episode if they realize susie is flipping. if sugar was the swing vote to them, they wouldnt be thinking about the idol (like this episode) because then the idol-holder is voting. heck they're was even a insider clip that showed the onions considering bringing matty in. they could even try for...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (RobVanStratus) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:22:28 GMT

I love Sugar and I definitely think she's a smart player. She's not the smartest person to ever play the game, but for her to admit early on she doesn't know what she's doing and that she's learning, she has got a good strategic head on her shoulders. The only mistake in her game was not breaking up the Onion alliance early on. Ace/Bob seemed to have something going on and Sugar didn't seem to hate Kelly/Paloma, other than opposing them because the majority went...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (cardswin5) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:13:22 GMT

Oowatanite wrote:

lemurwrench wrote:
sugar had the idol and surely would have used it to gain advantage at merge if it happened at ten. that makes fang have advantage 5-4

So were the Kotas gonna tell Sugar who the Fang target was, or was Sugar gonna use her endless supply of t.ears to borrow four more idols from production ?

...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (emjoi) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:46:32 GMT

Well, her "Sharp Moves" have been at the request of Ken so far.
She's being Janelle under the control of Dr Will at the moment, to be point of getting a "Last person talked to" mindfuck.

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (Oowatanite) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:36:29 GMT

lemurwrench wrote:
sugar had the idol and surely would have used it to gain advantage at merge if it happened at ten. that makes fang have advantage 5-4

So were the Kotas gonna tell Sugar who the Fang target was, or was Sugar gonna use her endless supply of t.ears to borrow four more idols from production ?

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (IntoTemptation) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:46:40 GMT

Oowatanite, you may think Sugar is stupid. That's fine. Everybody has opinions. I, however, do not. She is definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, but, I think she has made a few good moves in the game. Plus she still has her idol..so that's good I guess. (:

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (JaniTholeMyDolly) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:28:16 GMT

aiharaindropsotr wrote:
I rejoiced when the last vote was read.

Go Sugar!

They should eliminate Corrinne next. That would leave her with all weak players and no one truly threatening.

Besides she's on the better side with Kenny, Matty, et al. She has given more favors to them, has a better relationship with Matty then anyone else, and has a better chance of not being the 5th...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (RealityDeserver) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:01:02 GMT

Sugar is probably not stupid, but she surely cannot think for herself.

If it is a Sugar, Ken, Crystal win, I can see Sugar getting an Amber-type win.

Being the swing vote, what better way than to cast a throwaway vote for a third person and force into a tie.

I never liked that only two people got votes--it makes the voting look staged.

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (lemurwrench) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:35:47 GMT

sugar had the idol and surely would have used it to gain advantage at merge if it happened at ten. and the onions even knew sugar had the idol (maybe not randy and bob)

that makes fang have advantage 5-4

sure if they didnt do anything at final 10 then kota would have advantage, but kota wasnt even planning for that, they FULLY expecteda merge at 10

the point is, the third step after being in a dominant alliance and then getting a good position in it is that you...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (Oowatanite) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:11:58 GMT

Quiddity wrote:
The goal in Survivor should be to get in a majority alliance AND be in a good position in that alliance. We saw how well being in a majority alliance worked out for Denise and countless other players who were at the bottom and didn't make a move. And ultimately that, above all else is what caused the downfall of the Onions, not being 'screwed' by a twist. The fact of the matter is that even if they...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (colleenlover) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:55:09 GMT

I totally get the whole voting for Susie and Dan in case Dan has the idol -but they had to know what it would signal to the one they deemed expendable.

If they had to do this -it should have been when they first swapped -where they would vote someone off but still gain Sugar. If Dan had the idol, he probably won't play it, or use it to get another Kota out because another Kota would replace the fallen Kota and it would still be 3 Fangs to 4 Kotas.

They had Ace...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (Quiddity) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:35:43 GMT

The goal in Survivor should be to get in a majority alliance AND be in a good position in that alliance. We saw how well being in a majority alliance worked out for Denise and countless other players who were at the bottom and didn't make a move. And ultimately that, above all else is what caused the downfall of the Onions, not being 'screwed' by a twist. The fact of the matter is that even if they merged at F10, they were in trouble. They made it too obvious to Susie that she was...

Re: Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (colleenlover) — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:35:36 GMT

we also have to conclude to some degree that after Ace was voted out and they returned to camp expecting to merge the next day, that a lot of strategy was discussed. Ken says they can be the final four. Most likely, they stayed up and thought of some plans when they thought they were going in 4-6 and how to get Dan or Susie over, or how to use Sugar's idol as a foursome to weed out the numbers. A plan was hatched, and then derailed when they swapped, but probably communicated again...

Sugar = STUPID

feeds@yuku.com (Oowatanite) — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:54:34 GMT

Stupid bitch.