S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (Orangeena) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:30:08 GMT

Ethan's star was seen shining, I think it was the episode BEFORE last, when Matty and Osama Ben Sugar were plotting....

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (catfishbarb) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:27:59 GMT

chad6 wrote:
I said I remember, like you reminded me of the scene.

I'm saying that in the extra clips this week, Sugar talks about how Matty/Susie came up to her wanting a final 3 deal. If Susie was trusting of her deal with Crystal/Kenny, then she wouldn't make this deal.

Ok, I get what you are saying. I didn't see the extra clip. It's the thing I really like about this...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (chad6) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:24:29 GMT

I said I remember, like you reminded me of the scene.

I'm saying that in the extra clips this week, Sugar talks about how Matty/Susie came up to her wanting a final 3 deal. If Susie was trusting of her deal with Crystal/Kenny, then she wouldn't make this deal.

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (catfishbarb) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:56:19 GMT

chad6 wrote:

catfishbarb wrote:

chad6 wrote:
Kenny/Crystal/Susie is an assumption by Corinne. we haven't been shown a final 3 deal have we?

And Sugar says she's not with Matty and Susie.

Crystal promised Susie final 3 to vote...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (chad6) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:04:48 GMT

catfishbarb wrote:

chad6 wrote:
Kenny/Crystal/Susie is an assumption by Corinne. we haven't been shown a final 3 deal have we?

And Sugar says she's not with Matty and Susie.

Crystal promised Susie final 3 to vote Marcus off instead of Kenny.

I remember that, but obviously Susie...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (catfishbarb) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:35:09 GMT

chad6 wrote:
Kenny/Crystal/Susie is an assumption by Corinne. we haven't been shown a final 3 deal have we?

And Sugar says she's not with Matty and Susie.

Crystal promised Susie final 3 to vote Marcus off instead of Kenny.

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (chad6) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:11:34 GMT

Kenny/Crystal/Susie is an assumption by Corinne. we haven't been shown a final 3 deal have we?

And Sugar says she's not with Matty and Susie.

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (montanagirl) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:10:58 GMT

I don't think that's silly at all Rabbit! Between the 'Kenny is the glue' preview scene that was never shown, JP's 'can't wait for Kenny to blow it' blog post, and Kenny's " I can win this game' quotes, we very well might be up for Kenny getting played right out of this game.

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Just looking at the various F3 pacts out there:

Kenny/Sugar/Crystal
Kenny/Crystal/Susie (is this confirmed, or just something...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (MissRabbit) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:02:30 GMT

i just realized something. The previews for last week showed what seemed to be an important conversation between Kenny & Crystal about Kenny being the glue that is holding everyone together. I don't seem to recall them airing that. I know there are lots of times scenes are previewed but not aired, but it's usually just a different part of the scene. Like the feast a few eppies ago. THey showed the nekid women and nekid randy heading out to join them in the ocean..also the follow...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (Modesty) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:03:37 GMT

The fact that Kenny chose to send Bob for a second trip to Exile Island instead of himself or one of his allies, should have told Randy, Corrinne, and Bob that Sugar already had the HII.

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (trinity17888) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:42:40 GMT

Corrine and Randy couldn't possibly be fans of the show. They both condescendingly assumed that Sugar, after countless trips to Exile, would still not have found the Idol. Anyone who has watched this show knows that the 3rd and 4th clues practically point the way to it.

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (Coachocd) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:36:36 GMT

Ramona Balboa wrote:

This whole show was about how Randy earned his humiliation. I can't remember a show where EPMB made absolutely no attempt whatsoever to hide the boot and spent 30 minutes relishing every moment of the set up with no alternative boot possible.

Actually Ramona, this was done once before in the Amazon. Everything about the Roger gets booted episode was about relishing his boot,...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (Coachocd) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:29:41 GMT

GrenadeJumper85 wrote:

Coachocd wrote:
The issue with Randy as far as the others are concerned isn't whether he's vile or not. It's how you send him to the jury still willing to vote for you to receive a million dollars OR taking him to the final 2 with you as your goat.

My biggest problem is that there was too much emotional...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (dagny1331) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:31:49 GMT

As Bob is a scientist, I am actually surprised he didn't at least go back to the swamp to see if he missed anything. He doesn't know Sugar has it (or he would have taken 'Comfort') so it's odd he didn't look for proof that the idol was or wasn't found.

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (ratsnsnakes) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:53:37 GMT

They might have focused on Randy's bad actions, while affirming Randy's human value, and regretting that his own choices resulted in him being sent out from the game. Probably most of us wouldn't have taken that approach.
Cracking myself up at the thought of Jesus and Gandhi being on Survivor. The general tone would be much better, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be good TV!

I find it fascinating that Sugar...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (birdlady) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:38:32 GMT

I think using the fake HII was generally good play:
- Bob bought himself an alliance of some sort with Sugar, while maintaining deniability with Corinne.
- Sugar COMPLETELY deflected any thought from anyone of outing her actual immunity idol.
- Crystal/Kenny got a little insurance that Randy/Corinne wouldn't be working to hard to break up their (C/K) alliance, since they (R/C) thought they were in the superior tactical position.
Matty and Susie are the only ones who...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (rower) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:16:45 GMT

Oh and if Corrine does buy Bob's explanation that Marcus didn't throw the HII in the water and hid the HII from the beach in his back pocket and then hid it for Bob to find.... well then she is dumb as dirt. If that story were true, then wouldn't Randy have been saved by the beach HII?

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (rower) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:14:33 GMT

Peeps, how many times during this episode did we see Matty try to get Randy to tone down his operation "strong arm?' And what was Mattys reward? Randy told Matty that he [Matty] had "whored" himself in the game totally turning Matty against him.
Then - look at Randy's final comments. Everyone left were losers and Bozos. He [Randy] couldn't stand any of them, he was so glad to be away from all those losers. Well, Randy created his own reality. He had the...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (GrenadeJumper85) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:12:48 GMT

Coachocd wrote:
The issue with Randy as far as the others are concerned isn't whether he's vile or not. It's how you send him to the jury still willing to vote for you to receive a million dollars OR taking him to the final 2 with you as your goat.

My biggest problem is that there was too much emotional game play. Whether you like someone or don't like someone is only relevant when you are on the...

Re: S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (crzypunk2004) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:56:43 GMT

Yeah, I think that Sugar clip tells us F3 won't be Sugar/Kenny/Crystal.

I disagree, the actual show is making us believe that the strongest alliance is Kenny/Crystal/Susie with Sugar and Matty as a 2some. We have show in the past that Sugar doesn't trust kenny and crystal. There has been no evidence to us that Sugar ever had a F3 alliance with Kenny and Crystal. The kenny/Sugar/Crystal F3 will be a surprise to the...

S17 Week 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

feeds@yuku.com (Trixiego) — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:52:23 GMT

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