Strategy VS Suffering

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feeds@yuku.com (Halati0n) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:46:58 GMT

Strategy > Suffering

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feeds@yuku.com (River50) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:13:20 GMT

Great thread---no idea how I missed it before.

Suffering or Strategy? Both. As other people have mentioned, I generally don't like seeing people suffer. But, if there are people working past the hardships and are finding a way to work their game in, then I love it. In retrospect, I can intuit why Samoa focused on the suffering (perhaps to add complexity to character development). What I mean is, Jaison may have been vocal in his complaints in regard to the suffering (something...

Re: Strategy VS Suffering

feeds@yuku.com (Pretorius) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:44:54 GMT

It was good to see Jaison finally using his brain... but it was really awesome to see Natalie displaying such amazing social skills! The girl is set to make it to the finals and I'm starting to like it.

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feeds@yuku.com (BortBort) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:35:31 GMT

^ where the fuck did that metaphor come from? That is some crazy ass shit...

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feeds@yuku.com (Beefcake) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:47:46 GMT

And that means Probst is the abortion doctor, and we should bomb his house. Got it.

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feeds@yuku.com (token lunatic) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:09:33 GMT

The baby is Foa Foa. Galu is the mother. If the mother aborts the baby, why not take down the mother too? Or at the very least the perceived head, if your first plan doesn't pan out.

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feeds@yuku.com (Beefcake) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:36:31 GMT

Wait. . . So Erik is the drunken mother and Jaison is the aborted baby? And who is the ship? Brett? Or Brent? Or whoever the fuck that guy is?

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feeds@yuku.com (token lunatic) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:30:57 GMT

Sort of. Erik was drunk with power. Erik was talking shit AND revealing his hand which is a fatal combo. So Jaison said, if the mother is going to abort the baby, why not go ahead and kill the mother and let the baby go down with the ship.

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feeds@yuku.com (Beefcake) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:28:43 GMT

Jaison only seems interested in playing the game when his feelings get hurt. Voting out Ben was strategically stupid at a time when Foa Foa needed physical strength in the challenges, but Jaison needed to make himself feel good by "getting" the redneck. Last night, he didn't seem to care much until Erik talked down to him. Then all of a sudden it was "We need to get Erik". I call that playing emotionally.

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feeds@yuku.com (token lunatic) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:26:27 GMT

Laura, John, Russell, Dave, Jaison, and Nat can stay as the F5.

The rest can leave. kthanxbye

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feeds@yuku.com (Soviet) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:13:01 GMT

Jaison just acts emotional so he can get his strategic way. Like his threatening to quit even though he had no intention to.

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feeds@yuku.com (Beefcake) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:08:55 GMT

I loved last night's episode. Finally, we had a little action! If Russell's goal was to created chaos and confusion, I guess he succeeded. I still don't understand what he expected to gain by telling people that he has the HII. That made sense way back when you could use it after the votes were announced, but it makes no sense now -- all it's going to do is put a target on your back because people are going to try and force you to use it. Nice to see Jaison make a move, even...

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feeds@yuku.com (Nods) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:06:54 GMT

Utopian wrote:
Speaking of which, I'm amazed no one, after 20 seasons, has built a teepee as a shelter. It's not that difficult if you know what you're doing and the advantage is that you can build a fire inside the shelter so that you can stay warm even when it rains.

We don't know all the rules they have, but I would assume after 20 seasons of open leanto shelters that they...

Re: Strategy VS Suffering

feeds@yuku.com (token lunatic) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:41:07 GMT

The editors did a good job this time for a change. We all knew Foa Foa was fucked, but like Natalie(?) said, there was dissension among the ranks. Russell Mr Magooing all over the place started the rube goldberg of crappy strategy. Fun as hell to watch. Erik should get a special award. He was awesome. As were Jaison and Natalie.

Mick tho

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feeds@yuku.com (SuperJude) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:32:31 GMT

I think this episode pretty much concludes that we all prefer Strategy over the Suffering/surviving aspect of this show.

-SJ™

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feeds@yuku.com (star jumper) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:37:10 GMT

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feeds@yuku.com (CJPeters) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:28:41 GMT

chidelta wrote:

It's hard to say, every time I start thinking the general Survivor audience is smarter than given credit for, . . .

SJ, you must also think that the average Suckster is smarter than given credit for, because you used both "mythos" and "populus" in the same post. Heck, most people here probably don't even know that the word populus...

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feeds@yuku.com (chidelta) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:19:58 GMT

It's hard to say, every time I start thinking the general Survivor audience is smarter than given credit for, . . .

SJ, you must also think that the average Suckster is smarter than given credit for, because you used both "mythos" and "populus" in the same post. Heck, most people here probably don't even know that the word populus relates to trees, and the word populace relates to population.

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feeds@yuku.com (SuperJude) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:00:56 GMT

I guess I'm going on the assumption that they cast similar people with similar personality traits. Every once in a while they throw in a Cao-Boi or Coachbag for "flavor". It's the suffering and the strategy that seem to best bring out the more interesting personality traits in people, at least that they'll show in the edit.

Intersting that all the things you listed growsie seem to be Strategy.

-SJ™

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feeds@yuku.com (growsonwalls) — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:08:13 GMT

You both have it wrong. It's not strategy or suffering, it's personality that for me makes or breaks the game. Cook Islands had some great strategizing but with really boring people and so it's my least favorite season. A great Survivor character has to have a combination of strategy (or lack thereof) and personality. For me the moments that I remember are the ones that revealed a Survivor's character the most, from Sean's alphabet strategy in the first season to Brian...

Strategy VS Suffering

feeds@yuku.com (SuperJude) — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:14:43 GMT

That last episode, despite the useless waste of time dedicated to Russell S. "Almost DYING!", it got me thinking about what makes for better television.

I fall firmly on the side of strategy. I love listening to the inner workings and feel this facet of the show is often overlooked in editing attempts to glorify certain cast members.

Then there is the suffering aspect. Every season somebody will tell you how "hard" it is but to the audience, it's...