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Kayleekat3 |
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congrats. sleep when the baby sleeps.
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cg41386 |
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alabamacandace wrote: heh. |
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SenorX27 |
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Saw BML posted this in another thread, but in case you haven't read it...check it out...
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/cbs-confirms-eric-stein-couldnt-use-big-brother-8-power-of-veto-5985.php |
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ZippyDoDa |
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Just gotta make sure everyone sees it cause there are a lot of peeps in denial about it!
This summer, Big Brother 8 houseguest Eric Stein told viewers that he had "some pretty compelling options" available to him when he paved the way for Dick Donato's eventual win by "deciding" not to use the veto ability he won in the show's eighth Power of Veto challenge to allow Jessica Hughbanks, the Stein ally who was serving as the game's Head of Household at the time, to "backdoor" Donato or his daughter Danielle out of the competition.
Instead, although the broadcast's edited footage implied otherwise, Big Brother 8's producers prevented Stein -- who as "America's
Player," secretly had his weekly eviction vote and nomination attempt targets determined by home viewer voting -- from using the PoV because there was
"no time to vote on whether or not he should use the veto," according to a CBS-released statement.
Stein's pivotal decision took place in the days leading up to Big Brother 8's live August 30 broadcast that featured the eviction of Amber Siyavus, whom Hughbanks had nominated for eviction (along with Zach Swerdzewski) during the week's initial nomination ceremony. However once Stein -- her close ally in the competition -- won the PoV, Hughbanks saw it as an opportunity to "backdoor" one of the Donatos. When Stein decided against using the PoV and instead kept Hughbanks' eviction nominations the same, he told Hughbanks it was because he trusted the alliance the pair had recently formed with the Donatos, whom unbeknownst to Stein or Hughbanks, had already begun to plot against them -- but he had another explanation for the show's home viewers. "America, I know you guys wanted Amber nominated for the second straight week so I did not use the Veto... now you have the choice to send her home if you'd like," Stein told viewers during a Diary Room session broadcast during the show's August 28 episode. Stein's explanation did not address why he didn't use the Veto to remove Swerdzewski from the chopping block. After Stein's PoV decision was revealed to the rest of the remaining houseguests, Hughbanks commented there was "no reason" to evict Siyavus or Swerdzewski and characterized Stein's decision to keep the Donatos in the competition as possibly the "biggest mistake" yet in the game. Her fears quickly came to fruition when the Donatos immediately turned on Hughbanks and Stein and then powered past Jameka Cameron and Swerdzewski to finish as the show's winner and runner-up. However during a recent podcast interview with rffradio.com, Hughbanks said that once Big Brother 8 ended and Stein was allowed to reveal the season's "America's Player" twist to the rest of the houseguests, he told her the real reason why he didn't use the PoV. "Eric explained he wasn't allowed to use the veto that week. The producers said that America wasn't given enough time to decide who he should use it on if he was going to, so they just flat out told him he is not allowed to use the veto at all -- nominations had to stay the same -- which is why Eric didn't use the veto," said Hughbanks during the interview. "I think that's because [the producers] knew if he used the veto I was going to put up one of the Donatos, Dick or Danielle, and so they just said, 'You know you can't do it.'" Big Brother's producers confirmed Hughbanks' claims that they didn't allow Stein the option to use the PoV in a CBS statement issued to Reality TV World on Tuesday. "The rule was that Eric had to make every effort to do what America wanted. [Viewers] asked for someone to be nominated and that person was on the chopping block. Since there was no time to vote on whether or not [Stein] should use the veto, he needed to make sure that the person America wanted gone stayed on the chopping block and then make every effort to make sure that person was evicted. Keeping the nominations the same was the best way to accomplish America's wishes." Home viewers had instructed Stein to both target and vote to evict Siyavus during the week of his PoV victory, which is exactly what happened. But at the time, Hughbanks said she was unaware what was motivating Stein to keep the Donatos in the game. "I didn't know it at the time. I said, 'What? What is going through your head? This is the perfect opportunity to get one of the big dogs out of here,' and he wouldn't do it but I went along with him because I had to. He had the power that week. He was my ally," Hughbanks explained during her interview. "He couldn't tell me in the house he wasn't allowed to use it, but afterwards he said, '[The producers] said do not use it, you don't have a choice, you are to keep nominations the same.'" Hughbanks said she "didn't pressure" Stein to flex his PoV muscles. "But I talked to him about it," she explained. "I put up [Siyavus and Swerdzewski] that were just kinda like, 'Ehh,' so we have the opportunity to get somebody out that is huge in the game and I wanted to but because he was told that he couldn't he had to keep arguing to me, 'No, no, no. We have the right people up. Trust in the alliance it's all going to be good,' and I had to go along with it because I didn't have a choice." CBS did not immediately respond to Reality TV World's attempts to get further clarification on the producers' statement, including why Big Brother host Julie Chen never informed viewers of an "America's Player" rule restriction that would have prevented Stein from exercising any PoV's he may have won and why the show's broadcasts were edited to imply Stein was making his own PoV usage decision.
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CuteboiWill |
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Congrats & best wishes to the entire Stein clan on the newest arrival!
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QualityBobby |
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Congrats on the great news, Josh!
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Cleofuss |
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Great news, Senor!! Congratulations to you and Senora and the Stein family....and welcome baby Aaron.
Can we get him a little 'Honorary Suckster' tshirt or something? |
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Sigvold |
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Congratulations to your family!
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elliorose |
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That article about CBS made those of us in Eric's chat absolutely giddy! LOL. Already knew Eric was telling the truth but just loving the fact that Dick
had been spewing his shit for days at Jess and to a lesser extent Eric and was proven wrong. The apology in his blog left a lot to be desired truthfully, but
the mental picture of Dick pacing in his apt. spitting and cursing that he actually should apologize was priceless!
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Oowatanite |
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Seems reasonable enough. Eric, as America's player, was targetting Amber so he could not risk being allowed to use the veto on Zach, have a Donato go up, and then the Donato gets evicted (a real possibility) instead of America's choice Amber. So the nominations have to stay the same and Eric can't use the veto.
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Fluffynurse |
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Has it been confirmed that Eric's ping pong ball was not in the pouch for the first several POV draws? Or is that purely chance?I wondered about that too but came to the conclusion that yes, his ball must have been in the pouch. What if someone chose Eric as Player's Choice? He would have had to play for Veto then. I think the producers didn't think this out enough. Or they assumed that Eric would either never win or if he did win he would keep the noms the same. |
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Lovejonze |
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Instead, although the broadcast's edited footage implied otherwise, Big Brother 8's producers prevented Stein -- who as "America's Player," secretly had his weekly eviction vote and nomination attempt targets determined by home viewer voting -- from using the PoV because there was "no time to vote on whether or not he should use the veto," according to a CBS-released statement.Well, he was America's player, not Eric's player. And America clearly liked Dick more than Eric. I can't believe people are still whining about this. |
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April R |
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Was it ever confirmed which comps he threw?
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blmetsfan |
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The twist was fucked up... it wasn't Eric's fault, it wasn't Dick's fault. You know if Eric had won how much the others would be complaining
right now? And probably justifiably so.... and that's the problem. Whoever won (Amber, Jameka, Dick, Eric) would need an asterisk next to their name,
because Season 8 had a FUCKED UP TWIST.
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danisucksit |
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Lovejonze wrote: Shut your cunt hole up! |
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Crappysucks |
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^^ Truth hurts, don't it douche bag.
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aslanscubs |
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Congrats on your newest addition, Senor and Senora! Eric should be a great uncle. Remember to cherish each and every moment.
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ericfan345 |
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Oowatanite wrote: seems reasonable enough? then why was he allowed to use it on Jess if he got it the next week? (Eric confirmed this) The rule was always that the AP could
use the POV on the non targeted nominee as long as the target is up there. The producers blatantly changed their rules to force Eric not to use it on Zack
because they were worried Daniel would get evicted regardless of AP vote. The nomination and eviction are two separate things if they weren't there
wouldn't be any need to vote who to evict if the AP targeted player is still nominated. He is required to get the player nominated, once he did that he
shouldn't have to try to get that player evicted also until the next vote! He alway had the right to use the POV on the non targeted nominee as seen when
he could have used it on Jessica. So why was he forbidden to use it on Zack that week? hmmm very reasonable huh
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Oowatanite |
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then why was he allowed to use it on Jess if he got it the next week? (Eric confirmed this)Um, I don't know, maybe because Jessica was his #1 ally? Ya think?
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ssseeeaaann |
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Um, then they should have made objective rules for the usage of the POV and not just decided to keep things as they were when Skelewhore was in danger. I
guarantee if Skelewhore or Richard were on the block and Eric wanted to save her, the producers would have granted his wish.
It isn't the producers job to decide "who is the most popular" or "what is the best way to get Amber out." Eric had to do his 3 tasks per week and was free to play however he wanted otherwise. And if his discretion was that the best way to get Amber out would be to save Zach and put Skelewhore on the block, than that was his decision to make, not Allison Grodner's. |
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