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Edinboro	How did all stars change your views	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1200 (05/17/08 6:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If all stars was not all stars, but instead the first time the castaways played, how would your opinions of the castaways change without knowing them before on a previous season.. In example...Amber..Loved her in australia...But if all stars was the first time she appeared on our screens i would hate her..same goes with jenna lewis.
Thailandsurvivor		#1	[-]
Posts: 738 (05/17/08 6:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I loved Amanda in China but completely hated her here. Ozzy wouldn't change as he's still an arrogant douche. Fairplay was still funny as hell for the ep he was in. Yau would kind of suck for not getting any air time. Eliza didn't change. I liked Ami here unlike in Vanuatu. James was alot duller. Cirie would still be awesome. Parvati would be much better seeing her here first. And Jonathan would still be an entertaining yet shitty player.
couragepiece93		#2	[-]
Posts: 4 (05/17/08 6:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	People I used to hate now like: Penner, Ami, Eliza, James, Parvati People I used to like now hate: Ozzy, Cirie Same: JFP, Yau Man, Amanda
Edinboro		#3	[-]
Posts: 1202 (05/17/08 6:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was mainly talking about all stars season 8 but this works i guess.
Quiddity		#4	[-]
Posts: 2538 (05/17/08 7:17 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If all stars was not all stars, but instead the first time the castaways played, how would your opinions of the castaways change without knowing them before on a previous season.. In example...Amber..Loved her in australia...But if all stars was the first time she appeared on our screens i would hate her..same goes with jenna lewis. Well, I can come from a somewhat different perspective than most for the simple fact that with the exception of Borneo & Australia, I actually did see ASS before I saw the castaway's original season. Did it effect how I viewed them when I saw their original seasons? Yeah, somewhat I'd say. Lex was already engrained in my mind as the Twatwaffle when I saw Africa, so I did not really see anything redeeming about him in that season either (and to be fair, Lex was a total ass in that season too, particularly with his lunacy after receiving a gasp single vote at TC). Although many seemed for the most part the same when I saw their original seasons for the first time, at least in terms of personality. Boston Rob didn't seem all that different to me in Marquesas than he wa in ASS, with the exception that this time he didn't really have any power. Shii Ann was still the absolutely nobody who thinks she is somebody in Thailand as she was in ASS. Ethan was a nice guy in both seasons. It was interesting to see Kathy, whose hailed as such a good player by so many, be so inept in her early episodes in Marquesas. And so on. Really the only person who I saw in a completely different light with respect to those 5 pre-ASS seasons that I did see ASS before them was Jenna and Rupert. Jenna came off pretty well in ASS (and her other stuff, like Survivor Live), I hated her big time in Amazon. And Rupert was a lot more restrained and less arrogant in ASS as he was in Pearl Islands, where it was his island his show, his dreams, etc...
Edinboro		#5	[-]
Posts: 1203 (05/17/08 9:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	good point^^....just many reasons to why i hate rupert.....and i mean HATE
richardyul		#6	[-]
Posts: 61 (05/17/08 9:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	All Stars: Like more: Jenna M., Ethan, Shii Ann, Amber Like less: Sue, Colby, Lex, Kathy, Jenna L. Same: Tina, Rudy, Rob C., Rich, Jerri, Alicia, Tom, Rupert, Rob M. Micronesia: Like more: Jonathan, Eliza, Parvati (WAYYY more) Like less: Ozzy Same: Jon, Yau Man, Ami, James, Cirie, Amanda
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#7	[-]
Posts: 3613 (05/17/08 9:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ahh, but this is a misconception COC. People like to put all the things they don't like about people on top of one seasons villain to "prove" that the righteous prevail or that the "evil" eventually win out.Being a "villain" has little to do with your work ethic
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#8	[-]
Posts: 3615 (05/17/08 9:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why does a villain have to be lazy?
Edinboro		#9	[-]
Posts: 1206 (05/17/08 10:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hey...you ppl are going way off topic.
yellowfang		#10	[-]
Posts: 116 (05/17/08 10:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Like more: Parvati (although I loved her in CI, I loved her even more here) Amanda (she's still a fuckhead, but better than in China) James (he had a way too positive edit in China, more than he deserved; he had a more realistic and likeable edit in Micronesia) Jonathon (I didn't like him first time around, I totally fell for the whole "villain edit" thing, as CI was my first season) Like less: Ozzy (he was my favorite survivor ever when I first watched Survivor. He was a douche in Micronesia though) Yau Man (always hated him) N/A (I didn't see their seasons): Eliza Cirie Ami Other Fairplay (favorite survivor of all time; I can't say I liked him more or less in this season. He still rocked)
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#11	[-]
Posts: 3617 (05/17/08 10:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colorofcoils wrote: >Why does a villain have to be lazy? Because being a villian is bad. Lazy is bad. Stalin was evil, but he managed to turn Russia into an industrial power
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#12	[-]
Posts: 3618 (05/17/08 10:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So being lazy makes you intrinsically evil? Do we have a meter for what constitutes reasonable work ethic?
cantthinkofaname		#13	[-]
Posts: 1138 (05/17/08 10:29 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Bold=big change Italics=small change Underline= used to like/dislike (depending on which list they're under) AllStars: People I like more: Jenna M., Jerri, Lex, People I like less: Rich, Colby, Ethan, Shii Ann, Rupert, Jenna L., Amber, Rob M. Same: Tina, Rudy, Rob C., Sue, Kathy, Alicia, Tom, FvF: People I like more: JFP, Jonathan, Ami, Eliza, Amanda People I like less: Ozzy, Parvati Same: Yau-Man, James, Cirie
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#14	[-]
Posts: 3623 (05/17/08 10:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So someone with a work ethic is that less evil? But what if they must work hard to perpetrate their sins?
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#15	[-]
Posts: 3624 (05/17/08 10:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Work hard to commit evil deeds
chapera rocks		#16	[-]
Posts: 8936 (05/18/08 2:57 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Better the Second Time Tina Wesson (Didn't last long enough to be a holier than thou bitch again) Rudy Boesch (Made me like him, and love him on the Borneo re-watch) Jenna Morasca (Hated her in Amazon, loved her in All Stars) Richard Hatch (Hated him in Borneo, loved him in All Stars -- didn't take everything so personally) Susan Hawk (Softer side, but still hate) Rupert Boneham (<3'd his alliance with Romber) Rob Mariano (Didn't appreciate him in Marquesas, and I don't know why - loved him) Amber Brkich (Loved her both times, but a much better showing) Jonathan Penner (Didn't care for him in CI, but showed he had passion and people loved him!) Eliza Orlins (Really appreciated her more this time and now she's my fave from Vanuatu) Cirie Fields (Loved her strategic prowess this time, but I also loved her more emotional edit last time) Same Ethan Zohn (Mildly liked him better, but almost the same... much nicer and less entitled in Africa, but a better gamer in All Stars) Shii Ann Huang (Loved her both times) Jon Dalton (A little better because he's a family man now, but not much of a difference) James Clement (Meh) Parvati Shallow (Liked her both times) Worse the second time Rob Cesternino (Can't remember why) Colby Donaldson (He didn't care at all) Jerri Manthy (She was weak this time) Lex Van Den Berghe (If it was possible, and I guess it was) Kathy Vaverick O'Brien (Huge drop from Marquesas) Alicia Calaway (I realized what a manly bitch she was) Tom Buchanan (Drunk asshole, but not endearingly like Africa) Jenna Lewis (She let us know she was a whore) Bobby Jon Drinkard (Just annoying and dumb) Stephenie LaGrossa (She was a bitch ) Yau-Man Chan (Poor edit, made a terrible mistake ) Ami Cusack (She was just a follower this time :/) Ozzy Lusth (I had a dislike for him before, but mostly due to the undeserved worship he had, but this time he was arrogant the whole time) Amanda Kimmel (At first I would say better after the whole Idol play, but then she fell apart AGAIN and now she's thinks she's better than playing the game hard? She was upset over the James move? Ugh)
m0t0 maj1		#17	[-]
Posts: 491 (05/18/08 3:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colorofcoils wrote: Working is good. Working for good is good, but working for bad is bad. T.ears? Working requires energy. If you're working for any cause, you're not lazy...ugh why do I bother?
AnomyBC		#18	[-]
Posts: 4858 (05/18/08 4:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm gonna do this for all returning players, including ASS, Micronesia and Steph and Bobby Jon: People I liked more the 2nd time: Cirie Eliza Jenna L Parvati Rich Rob M People I liked less the 2nd time: Alicia Amanda Bobby Jon Kathy Lex (who I already hated to begin with) Ozzy Rudy Rupert Shii-Ann Stephenie Sue People I liked about the same: Amber Ami Colby Ethan James Jenna M. Jerri JFP Jonathan Rob C. Tom B. Tina Yau-Man For the most part, my opinions of the 30 returning players didn't change very much from one season to the next. Probably my opinion of Kathy changed the most. I loved her in Marquesas, but hated her on ASS.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#19	[-]
Posts: 3627 (05/18/08 9:56 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chapera rocks wrote: Better the Second Time Tina Wesson (Didn't last long enough to be a holier than thou bitch again) Rudy Boesch (Made me like him, and love him on the Borneo re-watch) Jenna Morasca (Hated her in Amazon, loved her in All Stars) Richard Hatch (Hated him in Borneo, loved him in All Stars -- didn't take everything so personally) Susan Hawk (Softer side, but still hate) Rupert Boneham (<3'd his alliance with Romber) Rob Mariano (Didn't appreciate him in Marquesas, and I don't know why - loved him) Amber Brkich (Loved her both times, but a much better showing) Jonathan Penner (Didn't care for him in CI, but showed he had passion and people loved him!) Eliza Orlins (Really appreciated her more this time and now she's my fave from Vanuatu) Cirie Fields (Loved her strategic prowess this time, but I also loved her more emotional edit last time) Same Ethan Zohn (Mildly liked him better, but almost the same... much nicer and less entitled in Africa, but a better gamer in All Stars) Shii Ann Huang (Loved her both times) Jon Dalton (A little better because he's a family man now, but not much of a difference) James Clement (Meh) Parvati Shallow (Liked her both times) Worse the second time Rob Cesternino (Can't remember why) Colby Donaldson (He didn't care at all) Jerri Manthy (She was weak this time) Lex Van Den Berghe (If it was possible, and I guess it was) Kathy Vaverick O'Brien (Huge drop from Marquesas) Alicia Calaway (I realized what a manly bitch she was) Tom Buchanan (Drunk asshole, but not endearingly like Africa) Jenna Lewis (She let us know she was a whore) Bobby Jon Drinkard (Just annoying and dumb) Stephenie LaGrossa (She was a bitch ) Yau-Man Chan (Poor edit, made a terrible mistake ) Ami Cusack (She was just a follower this time :/) Ozzy Lusth (I had a dislike for him before, but mostly due to the undeserved worship he had, but this time he was arrogant the whole time) Amanda Kimmel (At first I would say better after the whole Idol play, but then she fell apart AGAIN and now she's thinks she's better than playing the game hard? She was upset over the James move? Ugh) What are you talking about? Ethan won the first time
chapera rocks		#20	[-]
Posts: 8937 (05/18/08 11:56 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, but he played a very lucky, passive game. The only thing he did well was his social game, but granted, it was one of the best social games ever, but still, he nothing strategically. I'd put him as the worst winner ever in terms of strategy. Although just because of his social game, he might have a leg up on Aras.

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