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Posts: 906 (05/20/08 5:48 PM) Registered user |
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BlakeB717 |
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Posts: 907 (05/20/08 5:52 PM) Registered user |
Oh, and it's been a while since I posted any edgic ratings. Here was my final chart for the season:
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 astroline |
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Posts: 1187 (05/20/08 6:00 PM) Registered user |
Totally agree that an OTTN is in order for Natalie. She definitely had the weirdest edit ever, and her final rating should reflect that. Although she was so
neglected during the first 10 episodes, Episode 11 alone makes her lasting impression an OTTN. No casual viewers will remember her as being UTRN, they remember
the bitch Natalie.
Parvati - CPN Amanda - CPP Cirie - CPP Natalie - OTTN Erik - MORP Alexis - UTR James - MOR Jason - OTT Ozzy - MOR Eliza - CP Ami - MORP Tracy - CPP Kathy - OTTP Chet - UTRN (originally was MORN) Jonathon - CP Joel - MORN Mikey B. - MORN Yau Man - UTR Mary - MOR Jonny Fairplay - CP
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Posts: 1188 (05/20/08 6:15 PM) Registered user |
Oh yeah, and since Blake did, here's my final chart too. Yours looks awesome Blake, good job.
ETA: Yeah, I voted for Yau as UTR for the final rating but he's UTRP on here, that's a mistake and I don't feel like changing it. 
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cantthinkofaname |
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Posts: 1142 (05/20/08 6:17 PM) Registered User |
P RangeIf Natalie is N, Eliza is P. Also I noticed on that chart that Ami has more P votes than Eliza. Eliza's tone is .209 Ami is .096 Does that make sense? NO. Also I'm probably giving Ozzy N overall, but that's because I gave him 5 Ns during the season. Projected votes: Parvati - CPN Amanda - MORM Cirie - CPM Natalie - UTRN Erik - OTTP Alexis - UTR James - MOR Jason - MORM Ozzy - MORN Eliza - CPP Ami - MOR (P) Tracy - CPP Kathy - OTTP Chet - MORN Jonathon - CP Joel - CPN Mikey B. - OTTN (I gave him 2 OTTs) Yau Man - UTRP Mary - UTR Jonny Fairplay - CPM |
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cantthinkofaname |
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Posts: 1143 (05/20/08 6:33 PM) Registered User |
Don't count these as my final votes. I just thought I'd share my chart.
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Posts: 3112 (05/20/08 7:53 PM) Registered User |
Not Edgic, but still kind of fun:
Parvati - CPN Amanda - MORP Cirie - CP Natalie - OTTN Erik - MORP Alexis - UTR James - MOR Jason - OTT Ozzy - OTT Eliza - CP Ami - MORP Tracy - CPP Kathy - OTT Chet - MORN Jonathon - CP Joel - CPN Mikey B. - MORN Yau Man - UTR Mary - UTR Jonny Fairplay - CP
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OnlyTheHunter |
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Posts: 1552 (05/20/08 8:03 PM) Edgician |
Ami's edit - get in with one group, vote against Cirie, then plan to throw anyone under the bus, then get called on it and cry when she can't take it.
Please, love her if you want but the edit wasn't making her positive in the least. She went out saying she was trustworthy after viewers were given
repeated reasons to know she wasn't.
I am not all that concerned with overall rankings. Here's a general set for me, but it isn't that important to me overall. Jon - CPM - what else? Mary - UTR - ignored Yau-Man - UTR - ignored Mikey B - OTTN - he talked strategy, but was one dimensional overall Joel - CPN - you understood why he lost sight of the game Jonathan - CPP - clouds parted Chet - OTTN - one dimensional, meant to provoke reactions, fans' had it but for you, bastard! :-) Kathleen - OTTM - Crazy like a...pyscho Tracy - CPP - rooted for the one not given breaks Ami - MOR - blah, too underused until the end, when she got a deserved comeuppance Eliza - CPM - picked on, but even she knows why, maybe neutral? Tough call. Ozzy - MORM - toughest call, not CP, but too much exposition in the game (Amanda, Erik) to be OTT Jason - MORN - dunce, maybe OTT? Tough call. Alexis - UTR - that's about it. James - MOR - same here Erik - OTTP - easy call, the sweetheart Natalie - OTTN - the impression she left in three or four eps trumps the flatline first half Cirie - CPM - perfect call, she was never specifically tones all season Amanda - MORM - Danielle, meet Amanda, Amanda, Danielle. Parvati - CPM - Parvati, meet Todd, Todd, Parvati. After all the posts about her, we all agree on Alexis' ranking in the end? Too funny. Michael |
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Posts: 3113 (05/20/08 8:12 PM) Registered User |
So about tone. Is idiotic neutral? Or negative? Jason's final tone will confuse me. I'm sure lovable idiot would be P, and bigoted idiot would be
N, but what about just plain idiot? I would think that's N, but I don't think everyone would agree.
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JaMalle |
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Posts: 3885 (05/20/08 10:00 PM) Registered User |
MY OVERALL RATINGS
Parvati - CPN Amanda - MOR Cirie - CPM Natalie - UTRN Erik - OTTP Alexis - UTR James - MOR Jason - OTT Ozzy - MORM Eliza - CP Ami - MOR Tracy - CPP Kathy - OTTP Chet - OTTN Jonathon - CP Joel - CPN Mikey B. - I forget what my chart says actually but I'll go with MORN for right now Yau Man - UTRP Mary - UTRP Jonny Fairplay - CPM |
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craig |
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Posts: 13181 (05/20/08 11:22 PM) Registered User |
I didn't think we gave M in final ratings unless the person had a lot of M episodes. Otherwise anyone who had a couple Ps and Ns could be declared M which
is kind of weird.
Joel is a classic OTTN, Natalie isn't. Since when is dragging Chet around like a rag doll (ep.5) and taking to your tribe in an intimidating bullying way (ep.2) less OTT than a few colorful metaphors in confessionals in one episode?
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Posts: 3116 (05/21/08 12:10 AM) Registered User |
craig wrote: I don't think anyone is saying it's because of colorful metaphors, but instead her self-professed relishing in being ruthless and manipulative (her
words).
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Posts: 1144 (05/21/08 1:01 AM) Registered User |
GretchenIsMyGod wrote:
Natalie - OTTNExplain. Natalie: Why OTT (How?! With 1 OTT, and only 2 other non-UTR/INV episodes) Erik: Why MOR and not OTT Jason: Why OTT and not MOR (if Jason's OTT, then so is Erik) Ozzy: Why OTT (again, if Ozzy is OTT, Erik is too) Eliza: Why not P if Ami is? Ami: Why P and not also Eliza? Kathy: Why no P? (3rd most P average) Yau-Man: Why no P? (2nd most P average) Also all you people not giving Yau and Kathy P overall, WHY? If those 2 aren't P, then Tracy is the only P.: This means you: (guilty of at least 1 of the above listed) -BlakeB717 -Oowatanite -craig -dennydoylelives -SFC -TheLurkerSpeaks -KittyPryde -ColonelBird -astroline -OnlyTheHunter -JaMalle (probably more to come)
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Posts: 2879 (05/21/08 2:15 AM) Registered User |
Jon - CPM - A given Mary - UTR - Unimportant to the game Yau-Man - UTR - " " Mikey - MORN - Overall not enough focus to make an OTTN; more of a sideline MOR character Joel - CPN - A villain we understand and whose demise we completely "get" Jonathan - CP - The PP isn't enough to make him P overall, in my opinion Chet - OTTN - Hated by all, loved by none Kathy - OTTM - She quit, so she can't be P! With the M's and N's on top of the P's, I think she balances out to a pretty OTTM Tracy - CPP - I still don't see the P, but the Edgic stats say P, so... Ami - MOR - Dull and unimportant in the scheme of the game Eliza - CPM - Clearly CP, with some root-for-her moments and some don't-quite-love-her moments; I feel CPM is fair Ozzy - MORN - Douchebag Jason - OTTM - The clueless idiot with a dunce cap atop his head James - UTR - People are saying MOR? I don't remember James at all from this season Alexis - UTR - *yawn* Erik - OTTP - The lovable doofus who makes us all warm and melted Natalie - UTRN - Sorry, but she just can't be OTT overall, not with those first eight episodes. She just can't be! Cirie - CPM - Mainly N pre-merge with slight P taintings post-merge balance out to M, imho Amanda - MOR - *yawn* Parvati - CP - Not enough N to be an overall N, from what I got |
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cantthinkofaname |
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Posts: 1146 (05/21/08 2:23 AM) Registered User |
Someone quitting shouldn't affect their overall tone. C'mon, Kathy got a freakin P for that episode.
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5244 (05/21/08 5:34 AM) Registered User |
cantthinkofaname wrote:
Erik was the only true P overall - like OTH said, he ended up being the "sweetheart". Yau's Ps are a joke. He was almost INV and was inconsequential. Ami's Ps are a joke as well. Tracy's Ps are the result of a few fans who trumpeted her edit and winner chances even though she got the "INV of Death" VERY early in the game. So they ended up throwing Ps at her edit til the end. Even a CP for Tracy is sketchy. Chet could be OTTN. I might change my rating for him. Ozzy was AT LEAST negative overall. C'mon now. Anyone giving Natalie OTTN overall just because of one episode out of FOURTEEN are clearly delusional and should stop posting immediately. And I'm only partially kidding. |
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Posts: 1553 (05/21/08 7:14 AM) Edgician |
Oo, I think for 3 or 4 weeks in a row, fans saw Tracy and cheered her ability to hang with it, particularly juxtaposed with being divided by Jason/Joel et al,
and she left as the player you wished had made it further. That's where that P came from me. You saw her reasonably explain her thoughts, what her plans
were, and she even commented on her downfall. I know more about her than I do than any premerge boot except maybe Kathy, and more than half the jury (Jason,
Erik, Ozzy, Alexis, Natalie).
I agree about Yau-Man. I barely recall his first episode and he was nothing overall. No way does he merit a season tone. I disagree about Natalie, though. Think Janu. She was INV/UTR most of the season, but where Janu had one blaze of glory episode, Natalie had the joy of eating Jason, then to be blindsided on Amanda, take down Erik and be in the F4. She was completely one dimensional, I know next to nothing about her, and even at Final TC, she was too loopy to miss. Craig, Mixed overall is applicable if you feel it. Cirie certainly. I certainly don't think she's toneless. And half the time I was sick of her, the other half I was impressed by her. I don't feel Parvati was N overall. Kathy, it isn't about quitting, it's the fact that I remember her early comments easily (meeting a gay guy and fake boobs), and that she was as annoying as she was plucky. Isn't it interesting how few P characters there were, and how a lopsided amount are N. And the winner is someone they couldn't prop up as a heroine, based on Final TC? Final TC always determines the season's edits. Michael |
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MasterDarkNinja |
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Posts: 2750 (05/21/08 8:21 AM) Registered User |
My overall ratings.
Parvati - MORM (could also see CPM) Amanda - MORM Cirie - CPM Natalie - UTR1 Erik - OTTP Alexis - UTR James - MORM Jason - OTTM Ozzy - MOR Eliza - MORP (she has no P's on the official chart, but I gave her 3 throughout the season) Ami - MOR Tracy - CPP Kathy - OTTP Chet - OTTN Jonathon - CPM Joel - CPN Mikey B. - OTTN Yau Man - UTR Mary - UTR Jonny Fairplay - CPM |
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craig |
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Posts: 13190 (05/21/08 8:51 AM) Registered User |
Isn't it interesting how few P characters there were, and how a lopsided amount are N. And the winner is someone they couldn't prop up as a heroine, based on Final TC? Final TC always determines the season's edits.That because a strong P requires an N to battle with. Tracy's P is bound up with Joe and Mikey's N. But none of the Faves were villians. The battle between the 2 alliances at the beginning was strategic - neither side was the lazies or the meanies. The same when the women took down Ozzy\James, or with the girls in the finale. Who to root for was a matter of personal preference or who you liked on their original season. We should not strain to impose tome where none if clear, Even in Natalie OTTN episode, there was more complexity to ehr than to Joel. We knew she suppressed her bitchiness to play UTR, that she's spare Erik on his birthday. She's more self-aware than Joel who was generally an intimidating bossy scary neanderthal. |
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OnlyTheHunter |
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Posts: 1554 (05/21/08 9:37 AM) Edgician |
craig said
That because a strong P requires an N to battle withNo it doesn't. Tom Westman didn't have anything but a strong P from the beginning to the end. Katie? Kinda N, certainly not the world's biggest villain. Palau was full of P characters, Ian, Steph, Bobby Jon, allowing Tom to skirt in there. A lot of lopsided P charcaters in that season, and Tom was the hero winner. It's always Final TC. Or in this case, battle of the two titans fighting over the right to beat Katie. The one truly nasty N character was James, really. That's it. It was an up with people season. Michael |
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