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Which Survivor season was your first?

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Quiddity		#141	[-]
Posts: 2590 (05/21/08 4:55 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In terms of overproducing the show, that's where they have started to lose me. I have no tolerance for seasons with massive, complicated twists, huge casts, four tribes, multiple swaps, final 3 voting, double eliminations, etc. One the show becomes more about the twists and less about the players, that's where they start to lose me. When I said that I thought Guatemala, Exile Island, and Cook Islands were "shit" that was perhaps a bit too harsh. I just think those three seasons in particular were overproduced (too many twists), overcomplicated, and underedited. I don't know if I'd say that about Guatemala :P In my eyes it was really Exile Island (with the 4 tribes, exile island, & hidden immunity idol) that really started the twist madness, which really went overboard in Cook Islands (with again 4 tribes organized by race, exile island, hidden immunity idol, double boot episode, bottle twist, late merge, and F3) and Fiji (have/have nots, immunity or haves camp choice, the merge that was not a merge, exile island, new HII rules, F3 once again) and so on through China and Micronesia. As for the underediting, I though the editing was for the most part fine in Guatemala, and a tad less in EI, but not really horrific like it was in Palau and Cook Islands especially. Oh well, that's just me. Having not become a fan of the show until its 11th season, I certainly come from a different perspective than one who started from the beginning. :P Yay for Rafe-bashing! More Rafe-bashing! Yaay! The more the better! :)
beatles20147		#142	[-]
Posts: 11588 (05/21/08 6:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SenseiKreese wrote: once the show moved to a Final 3 format, I just gave up caring. I will never accept a final 3 season as one of my favorites. Can't happen. That twist bugs me more than any of them. Ditto. The final three is the only thing that keeps China from being in the top tier for me. The finale itself wasn't even that awful (although it did move slowly during the first hour), since it had Todd's "Oh snap!" with Denise and Amanda and some good Courtney moments. But it had the final three, which doesn't negate the 12 great episodes that preceded it, but keeps it towards the top of my second-rate seasons list. Call me stubborn, call me a Puritan, say that I'm too nostalgic for the early seasons and don't allow the game to progress--whatever. I won't get into the many reasons why I despise the final three since I've done it multiple times since it was introduced. But any season with the final three automatically has a huge mark against it. (I'm big on 16 contestants too but that's hardly a dealbreaker in the way the F3 is.) That's why I loved the Micronesia finale. Sure, I like Cirie but I was so fucking thrilled when it became clear that we were gonna have a F2. Best surprise from the producers since the switch in Africa. (And oh yeah, before anyone points it out, I know that one of the arguments I used against the final three was that in CI and Fiji, the players were not informed of it well enough in advance and that you can't run a fair game if the players don't know all the rules, yet was ecstatic to see the F2 in Micronesia under the exact same circumstances. Yep, I'm a hypocrite. I couldn't care less about the game itself; I'm not one of the contestants. It's a TV show and I want it to play out in the most entertaining and personally satisfying matter. And that is never going to happen if there's a F3.)
craig		#143	[-]
Posts: 13202 (05/21/08 7:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Though I saw S1 rebroadcast during the Olympics and was a casual viewer of S2, I really only became a big fan watching Kathy in S4 and Jenna Mm and Rob C in S6. I like strong female characters and good gameplay postmerge. So Micronesia was like a return to the golden age for me. I really think you need some kind of switch or twist every season - the "purity" of the early seasons breeds boring pagonging. I liked how in Micronesia those who lost did so through their own stupidity. I hate seeing people pagonged just because the producers stocked the other tribe with more physically strong males. That one issue I have with China.
workingmanblues	Which Survivor season was your first?	#144	[-]
Posts: 1 (05/22/08 7:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Borneo, around episode 5 or 6, post-merge.
richardyul		#145	[-]
Posts: 62 (05/22/08 7:18 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Starting watching with the first season finale in fifth grade. Picked Rich as my favorite to win. Missed the premiere of Outback because my parents wouldn't let me stay up to watch it after the Super Bowl. Tina was my favorite from the beginning, though I switched to Colby at some point. Also remember thinking that the tribe switch in Africa was the coolest. thing. ever. Even if it screwed over, my then-favorite Silas.
Edinboro		#146	[-]
Posts: 1355 (05/22/08 7:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	beatles20147 wrote: SenseiKreese wrote: once the show moved to a Final 3 format, I just gave up caring. I will never accept a final 3 season as one of my favorites. Can't happen. That twist bugs me more than any of them. Ditto. The final three is the only thing that keeps China from being in the top tier for me. The finale itself wasn't even that awful (although it did move slowly during the first hour), since it had Todd's "Oh snap!" with Denise and Amanda and some good Courtney moments. But it had the final three, which doesn't negate the 12 great episodes that preceded it, but keeps it towards the top of my second-rate seasons list. Call me stubborn, call me a Puritan, say that I'm too nostalgic for the early seasons and don't allow the game to progress--whatever. I won't get into the many reasons why I despise the final three since I've done it multiple times since it was introduced. But any season with the final three automatically has a huge mark against it. (I'm big on 16 contestants too but that's hardly a dealbreaker in the way the F3 is.) That's why I loved the Micronesia finale. Sure, I like Cirie but I was so fucking thrilled when it became clear that we were gonna have a F2. Best surprise from the producers since the switch in Africa. (And oh yeah, before anyone points it out, I know that one of the arguments I used against the final three was that in CI and Fiji, the players were not informed of it well enough in advance and that you can't run a fair game if the players don't know all the rules, yet was ecstatic to see the F2 in Micronesia under the exact same circumstances. Yep, I'm a hypocrite. I couldn't care less about the game itself; I'm not one of the contestants. It's a TV show and I want it to play out in the most entertaining and personally satisfying matter. And that is never going to happen if there's a F3.) can i call you a puritan..thats hottt.....????
McPhever224		#147	[-]
Posts: 101 (05/22/08 7:36 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Season 2, Episode 2. Been hooked ever since! Loved Amber, and still do.
spyzsrvvrcharmd	Survivor: The Australian Outback (E	#148	[-]
Posts: 641 (05/23/08 1:08 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The first episode I saw was Mitchell's boot in Australia (AXN-Asia). I did not catch it from the beginning of the episode but right at the immunity challenge. When Kucha won and Jeff gave them the idol, and told Ogakor they were going to tribal council, I was confused. I thought, "They won and they only got a piece of ugly wood. And the other team lost but they were going to some vacation spot? What's going on?" I stayed in front of the TV because I was somehow intrigued. The tribe finally went to tribal council and there was a tie between Keith and Mitchell. When Jeff asked them about previous votes, I misheard Keith. I thought he had "nine" votes against Mitchell's one previous vote. So my initial thought was the lesser previous votes you had would get you kicked out of the show. Then I stumbled upon the next episode of S2. I saw that amazing intro credits and that was what hooked me on the show. Up to this day, the Australia intro is very dear to me. I saw Debb, Kel, and Maralyn and I thought that maybe they were the contestants already voted out. During that time, AXN aired the latest episode thrice a week, and they had a marathon from the first episode on the weekend. So it got me confused because I got to watch the merge, then saw pre-merge episodes. And my initial thought back then was that the game was really going on while airing, not realizing it was already finished in taping. Then I saw Borneo on another channel, and watched it as well. But I saw the Australia finale first before the Borneo finale. At that time, I hated the Rich, Rudy, and Sue. I loved the Pagong tribe and Kelly towards the end of the season. I thought that Australia was much better and did not initially liked the Borneo setting. Up to this day, I think the Australia was one of the coolest location they had. Hearing the sound of the crickets while watching the show brings back very fond memories to me. I believe that new viewers who are trying to catch up with the early seasons should watch them in the correct order. If they do, they will see and understand how the game evolved, even the editing as well. I liked Micronesia and it's ranked high up there for me but the early seasons were better because you really felt you were right there with them.

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