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I LUV TIJUANA |
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Posts: 9144 (06/03/08 12:12 AM) Registered user |
11th to jump in was Nicole, I believe Craig was 11th in the intro.
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Plena??? Am I looking at the right sign??? The sign reads "Enjoy your day at the beach. One of you will soon be going home."
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Neeroo |
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On the magazine promotional photo, the 11th from the left is Paul, the 11th from the right is Liz.
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Trixiego |
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You could be talking about this in the spec thread if you want to you know
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I think the #11 is important, but you have to think a little deeper.
Since they've made it obvious that ElEvEn means something, it isn't going to be as obvious as "eleventh in the opening" or "eleventh confessional" I think people are not taking one speculation in to as much consideration as they should. At what other point was the number eleven important? Well, when Dr. Diva was on the beach and everyone sat down for dinner, there were only eleven contestants at the table. I am a firm believer in the "Last Supper" speculation. There's absolutely no way in my mind that the host's "Treat this as your last supper" comment didn't mean something. So, if you look at the table as the Last Supper, and you place Jon Kelley in the Jesus spot... then Alex sits in the Judas spot. A subtle enough hint that people wouldn't think too much about it... and yet a good enough clue to bring back for the finale. But, to add a little bit more... they went to commercial break. After the break, the first three images were the Virgin Mary, an angel and Jesus' crucifixion. The crucifixion image appears on the cue of the word 'execution.' And there's more. During the quiz taking segment... a majority of the contestants speculated on who they thought was the Mole. Alex didn't have a confessional there... but he did appear. Jon Kelley said, "Question 10: Who is The Mole?" At the tail end of that question, we flash to Alex, saying nothing... just rubbing his forehead. And if you want to add something silly to the equation... he rubbed his forehead... and what is on Alex's forehead? Two moles. There's always a chance I'm reading WAY too much in to the Last Supper thing... but I am a firm believer that this is the Episode 1 clue. Biblical imagery has to be there for a reason... and that reason is our Judas... the Mole... Alex. |
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^ I like your theories. Of course, I'm biased because I think the mole is Alex and I want to be right.
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I LUV TIJUANA |
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Posts: 9152 (06/04/08 11:42 PM) Registered user |
It was GRATIA PLENA which means "full of grace".
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It was GRATIA PLENA which means "full of grace".Wow, lots of biblical references. With John Kelley stating 'let the mole be merciful', the last supper reference, the images of Mary, an angel and crucifixion, seems like they are trying to point us to a clue related to bible or christianity. Any one know is Mark the 11th chapter of the bible?..hehe. His is the only name I can think of that is a book in the bible. (but there may be more, I don't read fiction) |
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LVN = Las Vegas, Nevada?
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xrealitydotnet wrote: I think there is more than a chance you are reading too much into it. In season one, one of the clues was simply that Anderson Cooper held up Kathryn's bag, clearly marked with her name. I'm with those who say it is the 11th in the intros (Craig) or the 11th on the player list (Paul). Could perhaps be the 11th jumper (Mark, I think). |
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Redhead9015 |
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You never know. The #11 could be a complete red herring.
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I LUV TIJUANA wrote: Indeed.
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xrealitydotnet |
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grendl2000 wrote: Oh, don't get me wrong... I totally think that I could be reading too much in to it. I still love the way it pieces together so perfectly. And as far as season 1 goes... let's also not forget the "Paid The Price" clue... which couldn't have made any sense to anyone until the finale. The ABC.com website didn't list last names, and we didn't know her last name was Price until it was mentioned in the finale. So, yeah, they gave us an obvious clue... but the rest of them were very vague. Also, who's to say at the end, they didn't just say "Oh, here's a shot of Anderson holding Kathryn's bag... let's make that a clue!" That could've just been thrown in there along with the "Let's pull the trigger" clue. That's a common phrase, but with their clever editing, they make it seem like Kathryn's saying it blew her cover as the Mole. I use that saying a lot, and I'm not a Mole.No matter who the Mole is... I guarantee that they'll throw in these "clues" to make us think we could've known it all along. But everyone on this forum could potentially be right. Because chances are, EVERYONE has been given hidden clues. Just so happens that I've latched on to this one and like it. AND, if he isn't the Mole, then at least I'll get the fun shocking moment when he gets executed... I miss reality TV shocking me... so that'll be fun! |
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Redhead9015 |
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Maybe it's not even the number 11 that means something. It could be 2 (1+1). Something ridiculous.
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I was going to stay away from speculation this season but I couldn't help myself. I'm glad I caved in though because there are so many theories out
there already and nothing's really certain at this point. I'm more intrigued and my suspect list just shot up after hearing these various reasonings.
I'm loving this... I'm going to have to rewatch this episode again and look for clues instead of being blinded by sheer excitement at the show's
return.
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The only thing that really stood out to me was the bizarre "Pisco Sours" business. Looked it up, a pisco is basically a little bird. Anything that
ties into that? I thought the Pisco Sours "P.S." might point to initials, which could only be Paul. We don't know last names, though, do we?
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According to Wikipedia, his initials aren't P.S.:
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I posted this in the Mark thread, but after his sob story about his wife he wipes a tear from his eye and his wedding ring is on the wrong hand. I thought
maybe the shot was flipped for some production reason, but then at dinner he is playing with it in a pretty obvious fashion, and it's still on his right
hand. And shortly after that they go to commercial and the Mole graphic emerges during a shot of him.
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Redhead9015 |
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I also thought it could have been a flipped shot, but you're right, it was on his right hand in both shots. It seems suspicicous, but I don't see why
they would make the mole lie about his/her marital status. It's a nice cover to be able to say you're there to win money for your wife and kids, but
it's kind of a big lie, one that would be easy to be caught in. I guess the other possibility is that he's married but the ring on the right hand is
just to see if we (and the players) are paying attention. Or maybe he's a weirdo who wears his wedding ring on the wrong hand.
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Someone asked on the ABC message boards if the producers plant red herrings. Since that board has now turned into a spam fest of every second post being OMG I
FIGURED IT OUT ALREADY...VICTORIA IS TEH MOLE BECAZ SHE HAS A SPECIAL HELMET ON!!1, I won't reply to the question there. I'll address it here instead.
The answer is yes, as illustrated by this "clue" someone found from episode 1 of Celebrity Mole Hawaii: ...and we all know how that turned out. |
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