These clues are so damn obscure. I hope they explain all of this shit when the season is over.
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The Mole - Analysis and Speculation Of The Show
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Posts: 1853 (07/15/08 11:06 AM) Registered user |
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ColonelBird |
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Posts: 877 (07/15/08 11:17 AM) Registered user |
There's no 5 anywhere in that 1-6. That is suspicious.
Didn't Alex jump off 5th. These clues all seem to point to who is executed, rather than to the mole. |
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Posts: 22127 (07/15/08 11:45 AM) Registered user |
"Craig Slike" has had a bunch of "5" clues attached to him (see the Journal thread).
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Posts: 659 (07/15/08 11:56 AM) Registered user |
Maybe those numbers were weights that Craig has been over the course of the show.
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Posts: 11561 (07/15/08 12:19 PM) Registered User |
ZOMG Craig's fat lolz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mateui |
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Posts: 2152 (07/15/08 12:21 PM) Registered user |
Ok, this sort of reminds me of one of the questions Nicole/Craig/Mark had to answer. Right off the bat I can see that all rows add up to 10: 3+3+4 = 10 6+3+1 = 10 2+4+4 = 10 The columns when added up give this descending sequence: 3+6+2 = 11 3+3+4 = 10 4+1+4 = 9 Now, what does this tell us? I have NO idea. It is kind of weird that the 10 keeps showing up - so to me that could be a reference to Mark (his journal number) or to Craig (part of the number 10 with Bobby). |
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bumlets1 |
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Posts: 664 (07/15/08 02:01 PM) Registered user |
One of the wine kegs shown right before execution said HLS70 HLS could be Howard Law School where Clay went to school, not sure about the 70 though.
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Posts: 277 (07/15/08 03:21 PM) |
Didint Marcie in a interview say she thought on her Quiz she put Clay and Bobby. So since i read that i crossed Clay out. Mark/Clay have an alliance... the
mole would not seek out an alliance thats a jerk move. Dittio with Paul i dont think if he were the mole he would had have an alliance with Marcie thats a jerk
move cause your costing someone the game. Nicole is way to OTT. Craig is the mole.
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Posts: 70 (07/15/08 07:48 PM) |
Did anyone else catch right before the execution they showed two bags. The scanned from left to right. The bag on the left was Alex and the bag was Clay. I
said that if Alex is executed I will guess that it is Clay. Could mean nothing. Who knows.
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Posts: 86 (07/15/08 09:46 PM) |
Taken from FallingAtlas' post on the ABC message boards (one of the few
good things to come from there):
Matches 
Written in Mark's journal. Some people are looking into this too much, speculating that the players who have their corresponding code (from Mark's journal) crossed out (from the website clue) are the next to go home. This is virtually impossible to figure out since the names next to the codes in Mark's journal are illegible. I believe the website clue that points directly to stuff written in Mark's journal tells us that Mark is The Mole. |
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Mateui |
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Posts: 2155 (07/15/08 10:30 PM) Registered user |
Great find, but the good news is that the names aren't illegible - you can clearly make them out (well, some of them). Mark has kindly put the rows in
alphabetical order by player names: (From top to bottom)
Al = Alex = 3-3-4 Cl = Clay = 6-3-1 Cr = Craig = 4-2-4 Kr = Kristen = Crossed out (because she was executed) Ni = Nicole = 2-4-4 Pa = Paul = 2-4-4 Mark titles this list "___ chances". Maybe Sabotage chances? Counting the number of times someone had an opportunity to sabotage perhaps??? Now, with the clue card, the top row 3-3-4 corresponds to Alex, which makes sense since he was just executed. The next line corresponds to Clay. Does this mean he is executed next? Finally, 2-4-4 can either point to Nicole OR Paul. Does this ultimately mean that our final 3 is Mark, Craig and Nicole/Paul? |
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Posts: 79 (07/15/08 10:32 PM) |
Here is the same image that Greenscreener posted but with some slight differences:
You can see more clearly the contestants listed on the right side: Al - Alex.............(3-3-4) Cl - Clay.............(6-3-1) Cr - Craig...........(4-2-4) Kr - Kristen (crossed through) Ni - Nicole.........(2-4-4) Paul....................(2-4-4) Also at the top of the list seems to be written "**tage Chances" - Which may be "Sabotage chances" This might mean that Mark thought each of these people had sabotaged X amount of times (indicated by a "1"); not sabotaged X amount of times (indicated by a "0"); and done questionable acts of sabotage X amount of times (indicated by a "?"). The whole line was then shown as (Total Sabotage - Total Questionable Sabotage - Total No Sabotage). I feel that since the clue does correspond to something in Mark's Journal that this is a clue pointing to him. However, I will move slightly away from GS and tentatively (at my own peril) say that this may point to those NOT making it to the final three: Craig's numbers are not included in the Widget clue so it would appear he is safe to the final episode. Alex's number is the top one in both the widget clue and Mark's Journal and he WAS executed. Clay's number comes next in the widget clue and Mark's journal...will he be the next executed? Paul & Nicole are both listed with the same number that is the last number in the widget clue. This would seem to indicate a toss up between them. This would be the most speculative of the three widget numbers.
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Posts: 3 (07/16/08 12:26 AM) |
At the end of Episode 5, there would have been 10 tasks. All of his numbers add up to be 10. Perhaps he's adding up the number they've lost money,
they number they won money, and ones in the middle.
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Posts: 669 (07/16/08 09:40 AM) Registered user |
Not sure if anyone has a screen cap- but during the interviews, there were two statues in the back by the window that looked like i's. In one interview
(with Clay I think) though there were four of them- maybe making reference to "four eyes" Craig?
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Posts: 5 (07/16/08 09:48 AM) |
It looks pretty clear from this that Clay is Mark's #1 suspect. A "1" is case where Mark believes a person was behaving like a sabateur. A
"0" is acting like a player. A "?" is where it could have gone either way. The numbers at the end are (1s, ?s, 0s). By the way, having
this in a journal is great cover for a mole. That being said, there's no way he's the Mole after the treadmill. My guesses about what he thinks about
the remaining players:
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Screerider |
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Posts: 22154 (07/16/08 10:05 AM) Registered user |
I finally watched the episode last night, and came to post about this. I'm pretty sure that the WebClue is telling us, that while Mark has crossed out
row 4, we also should cross out the rows from the WebClue.
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ColonelBird |
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Posts: 879 (07/16/08 10:30 AM) Registered user |
That sounds about right, Scree. I've been gunning for Mark since start as Mole, but his excellent efforts to earn money have me doubting. Craig is
definitely no. 2 on my list, and this theory you've suggested seems pretty good.
He's been in the best position to sabatogue, and he clearly has failed many many tasks. Though, Scree....perhaps Mark is still the mole, and the only person who is not 'executed' by him in the game, is Craig. Meaning, Craig wins.
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Posts: 992 (07/16/08 05:02 PM) Registered User |
I agree that Mark seemed to do too well on the treadmill challenge, even though I'll stay with him as my Mole pick. My only rationale for this is that too
many players were on his scent and the producers decided he should be a hero in a challenge to throw them off. Not that the questions were all that hard, but
he may very well have known all the answers in advance for this purpose. Also, he was closest to the exemption guess, which may suggest that the producers knew
that the bungee challenge would be much more difficult than most of the players would think, so he made a conservative guess, but note that his reasoning was
not that it would be difficult, but that he thought people wouldn't do it (but, of course, if he knew in advance that exemptions would be involved then the
chance that players would go for it becomes much higher). Also, check out his reaction when Alex is walking away after the execution. Let's just say that
it was a little less than 'natural'.
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Screerider |
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Posts: 22162 (07/16/08 05:24 PM) Registered user |
ColonelBird wrote: I have a big problem with this line of reasoning. I hear folks saying the Text Clues appear to point to who's going to be eliminated, the Web Clues
could point to who's going to win, and the TV Clues point to the Mole. Or you could switch 'em all around in various combinations, meaning the Clues
really have no meaning until after the show is over.
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Goosehead |
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Posts: 993 (07/16/08 05:29 PM) Registered User |
ha ha Scree. On the one hand I hope you're right about Mark, on the other hand, not so much (because I'm now invested with having picked him 4 episodes
ago). But I think you're logic make more sense than mine.
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