lizzo1 wrote:
Maybe I should HAVE dumbed down my answer.
My bad.
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lizzo1 wrote: My bad. |
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cindidindi76 |
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AlwaysAwesomeAdam wrote: Wtf are you talking about? |
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AlwaysAwesomeAdam |
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cindidindi76 wrote: I really don't know. You pissed me off for some reason. I'll chalk it up to my male version of PMS and call it a day. I feel like a McFlurry. |
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seaguy |
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The good news...THE UGLY WILL BE OFF MY TV NEXT WEEK!!! :)
This show went from one I used to enjoy to one that I can barely find the energy to get through. This season had promise but I find myself irritated by just about everything on it. While I love Jaclyn Smith, she really isn't very good on here and I've been one of her supporters around here. I can't stand Kim Vo. He's a miserable fucking mutant. That female judge (who thankfully wasn't there this week) brings NOTHING to the table and Rene is so friggin wetarded, I can't take it anymore. WTF is WRONG with him? Anyway, Nicole FTW!! :) |
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chelleforrupert |
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seaguy |
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It's a sickness!
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swim4life227 |
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This season is definately not as engaging. Last season, I couldn't wait until the next episode. This season, I have probably watch this show two times in a
marathon.
Nicole ftw. Although I wouldn't mind Dee. She talks just like me, aka trashy. This season is shit without Tabby. Charlie is a lame rip off wannabee. |
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Drew B |
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The problem is, really talented top hairstylists don't need to do a show like this and make asses of themselves for this prize. It's not like fashion
design (project runway) or even the restaurant business (top chef) where the exposure can be its own reward. If you're a truly great stylist, it's not
hard to get all of the business you can possibly handle, with or without huge exposure... Therefore, instead of great stylists, the show gets assclown media
whores...
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swim4life227 |
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I think this show would give you just as much benefit/exposure as MMAS, Top Chef, or Project Runway would.
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Drew B |
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But to be a successful model, designer, or (to a lesser degree) chef, you NEED substantial national exposure. To be a successful stylist, you just need to fill
your schedule locally. If the stylists who appear on this show are really good, they probably already have more clients than they can handle. How will more
exposure help them?
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Heliox |
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This season has not impressed me with great talent. I think Canada actually surpassed these guys in the equivalent Superstar Hair challenge. And Shear
Genius used the same twins challenge at the final 4, but I liked the way the Canadian show played the stylists.
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swim4life227 |
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Drew B wrote:Are you fucking stupid? There is a huge difference between being a local stylist at Supercuts than being a celebrity stylist. It's not like you can have Beyonce or Jessica Simpson as your client by working locally. By being on this show, you might get to work for a higher caliber place and have high end celebs as your clients. Depending on how lucky you get, you could have editorial work in magazines and shit. |
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Drew B |
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Yeah, cuz Beyonce and Jessica Simpson pick their stylists from among freaks on a television show... And they WANT the person who knows their intimate grooming
secrets to be a famewhore. And I'M the fucking stupid one? Being on a show like this would pretty much guarantee that they would NEVER get celebrity
clients...
As for editorial work, a stylist's book will get them the jobs if they have the talent. No way, even if the stylist's work is good, is a look created in 90 minutes with gardening shears and utilizing squid going to compare to the work of somebody who actually took the time to cut, color and style the hair right... |
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swim4life227 |
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Being on ANY talent show basically insures that nobody will take you seriously. Even on Idol, there has been like two true people that became what the show was
meant to create. Are any of the ANTM winners the next Cindy Crawford or Tyra? Not even close.
Yeah, cuz Beyonce and Jessica Simpson pick their stylists from among freaks on a television show... And they WANT the person who knows their intimate grooming secrets to be a famewhore. And I'M the fucking stupid one?You missed the entire point bozo. I was saying you can't get celebs as your clients by working at a local salon in a small town in like Utah. Being on this show does give you the exposure that any other talent show gives you. Your chances are better at advancing your career than if you didn't do the show. Anyways, I don't think it's likely that you are going to find the next great hair stylist from this show. Just like we haven't found the next Ralph Lauren from PR or Martha Stewart from Top Chef. This show is just as good as the others, it gives you some exposure and gives you a glimmer of hope that you make it. Also, not every single person on this show is a banshee screaming mediawhore. |
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Drew B |
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No, I got your point. You're just wrong. You would have LESS of a chance of advancing to that level from having done this show than by taking a more
traditional path. That is, if you really are a great stylist. Ones without talent (not unlike the ones we've seen) may need the sort of boost,
positive or negative, that this show provides, but that's a different story altogether.
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swim4life227 |
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If what you are saying is true, then your claim about Top Chef and Project Runway being a show that can actually advance your career is false. They are
basically the same shows but just with different talents being tested.
I don't understand how my point is wrong when I was actually somewhat agreeing with you. Your chances of becoming a star from this show is slim, but once in a blue moon people do actually make it big from shows like these. |
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Drew B |
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The difference is, you don't need somebody to give you permission or massive amounts of funding to cut hair. The business is less capital-intensive. Sure,
you can aspire to open a multi-million dollar salon and spa in Beverly Hills. On the other hand, you can be incredibly successful working as a personal stylist
to a handful of notable clients. Hell, a lot of the rich women out here have a stylist come to their house every morning to blow out their hair for them. That
sort of path requires very little capital outlay, and talent and ambition alone can take somebody there. A talented person can come out and just do their thing
and their work can speak for itself. With the right word-of-mouth, they can rise quickly.
In order to get anywhere as a fashion designer or (albeit to a lesser degree) a chef, you need somebody to invest a ton of money into your dream. It is amazingly difficult to even access the people who can do that for you. If they won't look at your designs or taste your food, what are you going to do? Shows like Project Runway or Top Chef can at least open the door to the point where somebody will take a look. While Shear Genius might do the same thing, it is not as necessary, because the door wasn't as CLOSED in the first place! |
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swim4life227 |
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It's pointless arguing with you. Every time I say something basically your rebuttals are the same thing over and over again but with a different choice of
words. It's like reading SHC's essays all over again.
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downtown somewhere in Texas |
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so why does a chef have to have a ton of money then? they don't have to always open a restaurant. so under drew's theory, they don't need anymore
money than a hairstylist. I can see where a designer would need money to purchase fabrics and such. but a chef can always work for someone else, like a
stylist.
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cginspace |
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The main difference, I think, is market. A designer's intended market would be VERY large. They sell product, not service, after all. Chefs sell product
AND service, but also want to reach as many people as possible. A hairdresser can only serve one person at a time, or maybe a few if there are shampoo/ sets
going on. I get Drew's point, that a really good stylist generally has very few slots on their schedule to fill, while a chef or designer is most always
open to new clients (of course a chef can also deal with this... once all the tables are filled, they are filled... though there is sometimes the option of
adding tables or incireasing space.
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