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Posts: 1663 (08/28/08 3:27 PM) Registered user |
Its probably more of a "girl pick a stone out of this bag and guys pick a stone out of this bag. If you picked the (insert any color here) stone, you are
the captains.
These school yrak pick things are getting really old. is it really that hard to come up with a different way of dividing the tribes? |
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Heliox |
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Posts: 971 (08/28/08 10:13 PM) |
I doubt this was a random or survivor chosen set of teams. This is like China and the teams have been selected prior by production. It is just too evenly
matched for physical strength and age.
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Posts: 5711 (08/28/08 10:27 PM) |
The teams aren't preselected. Probst already said they're divided up during a school-yard pick'em before the first challenge.
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IluvGoddessCirie |
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Posts: 238 (08/29/08 5:24 AM) |
The way Jeff talks about Crystal makes me think she definitely isn't the first boot, but goes near the beginning of the game. (He says something about her
being great at Tribal Council, but not being a great player.)
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A Dying Clown |
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Posts: 6455 (08/29/08 11:04 AM) Registered User |
Also, is it not fucking obvious that Bob is the first gone from Team Myspace? It would make sense for them being the villains, since Jeff said how it would be "foolish" to vote out Bob as he'll probably the most valuable for the tribe. I wouldn't mind except that this'll keep invisbore Jacque and trailer-trash Michelle around forever. Matty is probably getting talked up because he's the only survivor from the "Good" tribe to make it to the end, even though he seems pretty douchey. |
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mattsurv |
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Posts: 1 (08/29/08 4:20 PM) |
Jury (no order)
Crystal Ace Dan Randy Gillian Michelle Charlie
Final 3
Danny (no votes? One vote?) Ken (thought to win) Jessica (close 2nd)
Merge at 11, Jury starts at 10 and has 7 members, final 3
Kelly makes merge, but not jury leaves with Bob, Paloma, Marcus, Matty, Jacque, Corinne, Susie
First Boot: Corinne
Young strong go early
No real romances
Charlie falls for Marcus (doesn't vote him out with rest of tribe)
Gillian one of only few who pick HII clue over Temptation, gets idol, feels safe and doesn't use it, goes home
Matty gets idol, doesn't use it
Large number of ties
1 Ken 2 Jessica 3 Danny 4 Dan, Ace, Charlie 5 Dan, Ace, Charlie 6 Dan, Ace, Charlie 7 Randy 8 Crystal 9 Michelle, Gillian 10 Michelle, Gillian 11 Kelly 12 Bob 13 Poloma 14 Matty, Jacque, Marcus 15 Matty, Jacque, Marcus 16 Susie 17 Matty, Jacque, Marcus 18 Corinne |
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tullfan2 |
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Posts: 2784 (08/29/08 4:39 PM) Registered User |
My spec. based on Probst's contestant assessments, Myspace friends and contestant bios.
The original tribes will stay intact as there will not be a tribal swap this season (the original tribes were mixed in some way the past 3 seasons). The yellow tribe is the evil tribe and will dominate the "good" red tribe by winning 6 of the 8 pre-merge Immunity Challenges. Contestants that won't make the jury: red tribe - Susie, Gillian, Crystal, Danny, Randy, Michelle yellow tribe - Bob, Kelly I expect that Bob and Susie will be the first booted from their tribes. Even though Gillian is a lot older than Susie, she has a lot of outdoor experience (scuba diving, hiking, rappeling) and could be in a lot better shape than Susie. I don't see what Susie has to offer her tribe and Probst said that she doesn't shut up. Contestants making the jury: red tribe - Matty, Ken, Dan yellow tribe - Marcus, Charlie, Jacque, Paloma, Ace, Corinne, Jessica I expect Dan to be the first juror. Seven people from the same tribe making the merger is potentially an unstable situation and I could see Ace (ala Coby), Corinne (ala Jerri) and possibly Jessica being booted before Ken and/or Matty. It would seem that Markus would win this season hands down but the theme of good vs. evil could imply that the outcome of this season may be similar to Guatemala or Vanuatu where a member of the of the underdog tribe (see red tribe) ends up winning. I expect that a power shift occurs around Final 7 that involves the last remaining member(s) of the red tribe. |
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CSCin3D |
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Posts: 8931 (08/29/08 4:44 PM) Registered user |
I don't think the Myspace thing tells us much except for that Danny, Kelly and possibly Paloma are booted prejury. Half the cast doesn't even have
one, and 8 out of the 9 people that do are on the same tribe. Of course they'd be friends with each other. And what makes you think Ken would last that
long in his tribe? He doesn't seem strong at all.
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tullfan2 |
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Posts: 2785 (08/29/08 5:05 PM) Registered User |
CSCin3D wrote:This is spec. of course but it goes against the odds that all the Myspace friends that we found (except for Danny) are on the same tribe. For China and Cook Islands, contestants were MySpace friends with other contestants on both tribes. I have been reading Probst's pre-season assessments of the contestants for several seasons. If Probst says that one of the contestants is a favorite of his (eg. Cirie, Yau-man), it augurs well for that contestant going deep in the game. This is why I spec. that Ken makes it deep in the game. Cirie wasn't exactly physically fit and Yau-man was small and scrawny like Ken (and also over twice his age) yet each made Final 4 in their original seasons, Probst had a lot to say about Courtney Yates and she made the Final 3. Markus definitely makes it deep in the game because in the assessment section, Probst gave him the highest praise. Because in a later article, Probst called Markus one of the most arrogant contestants ever and then went on about the good vs, evil theme, I now doubt that Markus wins. |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Posts: 5721 (08/29/08 5:15 PM) |
I wouldn't take Myspace as 100% gospel until there is something more solid. There were quite a few people from last season and before that were friends
with each other, but were never on the same tribe at any point.
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CSCin3D |
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Posts: 8932 (08/29/08 5:17 PM) Registered user |
This is spec. of course but it goes against the odds that all the Myspace friends that we found (except for Danny) are on the same tribe. For China and Cook Islands, contestants were MySpace friends with other contestants on both tribes.Yeah, but in this case it turns out that none of the contestants on the other tribe (except Danny) even have Myspaces. |
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tullfan2 |
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Posts: 2786 (08/29/08 5:24 PM) Registered User |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote: I'm not. I am developing some speculation and intuition based on the info. we have so far. My intuition will change once the show starts and I begin analyzing the editing. In any case, the fact that 8 of the 9 contestants that we found on MySpace start on the same tribe is unlikely statistically. But that fact plus the fact that Probst is more specific about more of the yellow tribe members in contrast to the red tribe causes me to speculate that the yellow tribe dominates. |
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tullfan2 |
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Posts: 2787 (08/29/08 5:33 PM) Registered User |
CSCin3D wrote:Have you actually checked all of them? Granted I would not expect Susie, Gillian or Randy to have MySpace accounts. Some of the younger red tribe members could have accounts. We lucked out that Charlie and Jacque, the 2 contestants that we got tips about, had not made their accounts private and that Charlie had Markus (identified as matching the guy in the promo) as a MySpace friend. This enabled us to find several other contestants. If some of the other contestants had MySpace accounts they may just not have had Charlie or Jacque as friends. |
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birdlady |
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Posts: 1359 (08/29/08 5:36 PM) Registered user |
I'm not sure what to make of Probst's "good and evil". It's just a game! Does he mean "likeable and unlikeable"?
"Painfully honest and tactically dishonest"? There are definitely times (eg Cook Islands) when one tribe is good and one is bad, but evil?
And whatever it means, do we know it's a whole evil tribe and a whole good tribe? Could it be that there are good and evil individuals on each one? |
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tullfan2 |
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Posts: 2788 (08/29/08 5:44 PM) Registered User |
tullfan2 wrote: I found that Ken has a MySpace account and has only Paloma as a friend |
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CSCin3D |
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Posts: 8934 (08/29/08 5:55 PM) Registered user |
Then wouldn't that bode against him?
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cindidindi76 |
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Posts: 12146 (08/29/08 6:49 PM) Registered User |
birdlady wrote: I was wondering that too, it seems like people just automatically assumed it meant "one tribe good, other tribe evil", but it could just as easily be good and evil sides on each tribe, or even just on one tribe if they end up going to TC more often. |
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azcanadienne |
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Posts: 2604 (08/29/08 7:11 PM) MESS member |
where's the good and evil comment?
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kdo2 |
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Posts: 570 (08/29/08 7:59 PM) |
mattsurv wrote:I'll keep my eyes on this though I doubt it is trustworthy by a one post member. If it is somehow on track, the red tribe would dominate. Seems like a lot of speculation but it does go along with this. No hardcore "showmances" this time around, Probst does tease that one player proves particularly popular: "Marcus, the doctor from Georgia - one of the most arrogant guys that we've had on the show - he at one point had three people after him. And not only women."
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conorUNH |
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Posts: 68 (08/29/08 11:53 PM) |
ok, i think some people have basically said this. if i went on a show like this with 17 other people, id friend all of the ones with myspace whether or not i
ever spent a day with them. and don't they live together at camp pre-show?
ok this is all speculation. im probably totally wrong but whatever.... Jacque- i initially pegged her as an early boot. but maybe not. she kind of reminds me of danni. i think she will be very quiet. jeff mentioned a guy that she could attach herself to...i think the only ones this season that thatd work with are danny, dan, and marcus... and i just dont see it happening...but i also almost cant see her getting voted off early on like i was able to when it was first released. seems very smart Kelly- seems charming. and the thing probst said about an old guy finding her amusing probably means someone does. shes tough. the problem is that i think she'd get along and do well with very tough people on her tribe but it doesnt seem like she has them. i think she would do very well a different season, but maybe not this one corinne- total shame if shes an early boot. seems very entertaining susie- i think jeffs comments kind of mean she never shuts up and goes early jessica- if it werent for jeffs comments, id assume she was an early boot....but he talks bout how she makes decisions which probably means she does have some power at some point in the game Ace- seems older than 27....could see him as a leader....the leader always gets screwed Corinne- love her and i think she could bond with the girls but still be able to chill with the guys.....and if her true colors come out then she would be a great goat Ken- i think he will just fly below the radar in the beginning so i think he will make the jury...im not a fan Randy- loud. i think hes mid game because jeff talks about him at TC but that means he has a lot to say which would make him a target Crystal- another loud person. i just don't see her connecting with tribemates...its kind of the same thing with kelly i think. probably mid game. id never wanna let her get to the individual immunities Charlie- seems like below the radar. i think he will just attach himself to someone and go to the jury on coat tails Paloma- everyone loves her. i gotta say, i kinda dont. reminds me of vanessa anne hudgens, not strong, doesnt seem like a mastermind. also reminds me of ashlee from palau. im going against most of what ive read and saying early boot Danny- from jeffs comments, i wouldnt be surprised if he quit Gillian- social, i think people will like her and if shes on a mostly womens tribe, i think she will do well. i could see the younger women liking her Matty- one of my favorites. from what probst says, its pretty definite that hes around for a while Dan- no clue. jeffs comments didnt really say much. they meant he could either go far or be the first one out....but he seems strong so that should help Susie- kind of like cirie....seems funny....and same thing i said with gillians- shes better off with old people or young girls....i just don think young guys will keep her around...however, this season there arent that many Michelle- one of the under the radar ones. kind of reminds me of a mix of parvati and courtney. i liked both of them and i think i will like her. i think she will just sorta do what people tell her and not reallly make any big moves in the game. could make a good goat Bob- ya, he reminds me of BB 2.0. im saying early boot... and isnt he on a tribe with a bunch of young people?? ya hes screwed ok so dont take any of this like seriously but it said speculation so i thought id give my two cents the bottom line--- this is my "give or take a few" speculated boot list based on their interviews, jeffs comments, and my personal thoughts-- 18th-Bob 17th- Susie 16th- Danny 15th- Paloma 14th- Jessica 13th- Randy 12th- Gillian 11th- Crystal 10th- Ace 9th- Dan 8th- Jessica 7th- Charlie 6th- Marcus 5th- Matty 4th- Kelly 3rd- Ken 2nd- Corinne 1st- Michelle Okay, so maybe it gets a little anti-Ken by the end but whatever |
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