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I don't believe Kripke. Bella might not be back this season, but.... She ain't dead. My bet is that she has a side deal with Lillith, to be revealed when Sammy goes all leader of the demon army in Yellow Eyes' endgame. Let's find the Colt and see where we are.

While Kripke has lied to the fans in the past, most notably mentioning "love interest" to rile up the fiercely protective fangirl fan base, he isn't here. Bella is dead and neither Laruen Cohan or Katie Cassidy will be back on the show, period. In fact, in one of the DVD extras, one of the writers remarked that Ruby's invovlement became more heavy because of a slightly positive fan reaction (basically only in 3x01 lol where she kicked butt and hardly opened her mouth) and that Bella's involvement was toned way down due to negative fan reaction - they hated how she got one over on the boys. (Whether or not the execs should care is beside the point, SPN ones clearly do. And I'm grateful.)

In fact, Kripke said in one of those CW preview things for the either 3x15 or 3x16 that when Dean said "when that bitch's breath comes out it's crooked" or something like that, but in present tense, he didn't mean for that to imply that she was still alive, because she wasn't. Her deal came due and her story was full circle. The only question remaining is about the Colt.

ETA: But, far be it from me to keep you from believing in her return :P. But get ready for a long wait hehe.

And something I have been meaning to ask Reggie. Who is this evil bitch you mention in your posts re giving Kripke a hard time? Is she some CW idiot who thinks she knows it all? She better shut her mouth and let Kripke do what he does, because Supernatural is perfect the way it is and should NOT be tinkered with.

Dawn Ostroff, the head of the CW. The one responsible for canceling Veronica Mars, etc. Basically, when SPN came to the CW in Season 2, they expected WB numbers for it. Well, nothing got WB numbers for it, and the show didn't fit the demographics they wanted. Simply put, her "vision" was a network that banked on younger women, the 18-34 women demo. They knew they couldn't compete with the big four on viewers, but if they could win the women's demo then they'd have their "spot."

Well, SPN is a "male-oriented" show. (Although, I'd wager far more women watch the show than men. The fandom, at least, is 90% female.) And any show like this that didn't OVER perform (Smallville) was eyed by Demon O for immediate removal. When season 2 came to a close, SPN was renewed very late in the process and Kripke honestly didn't think it would be renewed. He mentioned at a con (convention) that one of the things the network "suggested" to help the chances of it continuing on their show was for female characters to be added to appeal to the CWs target demo.

Well, that's when Kripke kinda spit in their faces. He made it known that the show was looking for "two female romantic interests" and the fandom flipped the fuck out. This board isn't exactly a good indication, but the fangirls involved with this show? Are ridiculously protective of the "brothers." Specifically, them...in the show, together, no OFC. (Other female characters.) Kripke basically was pulling the fans legs as a way of saying - hey, they want love interests -- butttt no worries, I'm not stupid enough to do that. And so, Bella and Ruby were added and they were clearly not love interests and people kinda settled.

SPN got picked up really early last season (for season 4) despite lower numbers than Season 2 (mostly because of the strike, I'd imagine) and Kripke actually got a 5 year development deal with them. Which the details you can find online but it's kinda like...he wants SPN to end after five seasons, with a potential for a movie after and a spin off series that takes place in the wild west with Samuel Colt. However, despite this dev dear, the rumor mill claims that Dawn Ostroff made it clear that it didn't mean SPN was automatically going to get renewed for Season 5 (later this year.) In fact, if you look in the interviews, all parties involved are pretty vocal about not knowing if this is gonna be the last year or not. Far more vocal than they were last year with far less impressive numbers. And not only that, but Kripke could be plopped on one of the teen trite shows on the CW for his last year of his contract, instead of working on SPN. Which would pretty much be...like...a punishment for not giving into her demands.

The reason there's so much conflict is unsure. But, if you look, SPN is the #2 rated scripted show on the CW. Yet it is one of the least advertised shows on the CW. Gossip Girl, One Tree Hill, and 90210 get the most ads. You can say...well if they're not doing as well that makes sense! But, a lot of people get kinda turned off by this because it's like the CW doesn't "support" the show. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I kinda buy into a lot of this. Because for a show's creator to not PRAISE their network head up and down is really strange. Unless there's some tension there.

And I'm sure it chaps Ostroff's ass that her pet projects (GG and 90210) aren't performing as wonderfully as she thought, and the network that she decided to push as a women's demographic network has their #1 and #2 shows "as male targeted." Kinda suggests she's failed, huh? Not only that, but there's a lot of rumors that the CW could tank at the end of the season because they frankly have really screwed up how they're doing it. Their Sunday shows barely pulled in 1 million viewers last night. Their Friday night Wrestling Block, they gave up to put their sitcoms on that night, and their sitcoms bombed. (Btw, the network that got WWE?...well...

"MyNetworkTV Delivers the Most Male Viewers in History of the Network and Tops All Other Broadcast Networks' Friday Performance in M18-34"

Simply put, that's 3 million + viewers that the CW had, that they gave away. Their numbers for Friday without it?

EHC: 2.10 0.8/3
The Game: 1.91 0.8/3
And a ANTM Repeat that got 1.49 million.

So frankly put, the CW is in serious trouble. That being said...what shows are still over performing and pulling in solid numbers for the CW? :) The shows that Dawn Ostroff has no intention of supporting, whatsoever. :-)

Just a reminder that CSI starts this week, so the show is likely to take a ratings hit. But let's keep tuning in (those of us lucky enough to have the CW) to make this more successful than 90210/Gossip Girl/One Tree HIll. :)

It'll get ya by the end of the first season. The first few episodes (in my opinion) are some of the best MotW episodes (monster of the week) of the entire series -- especially Hookman -- but the real crux of the show, Sam and Dean's bond, takes a little while to get off the ground. But by the time Faith rolls around, I have a feeling you're gonna be a fan. Because...well, hopefully you see quality where quality exists. :)