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Ken: CPN4

This didn't come out exactly as I wanted it to, so I'm not sure if the post is going to be difficult to follow, but I am going to attempt to convince people of why this is the best rating for Ken by giving a detailed description of his edit:

The bolded red text is instances where Ken fits the criteria for CP.

THE SWITCH

Ken asks "What about Kelly?" to his new tribe and Ace tells him "Not Kelly." Then Ken asks Matty what he thinks and Matty says Bob. Ken says that if he picks Bob, Bob would go with Ace and Jacquie, and Matty says "Not necessarily." Jeff then asks Ken for his choice, and against his tribemates' wishes Ken picks Kelly:

Ken on choosing Kelly: "Jeff, for myself, I'm always the last picked sometimes so I know how it feels to be left out, so I'm gonna go with Kelly. I want to get to know her. And she's hot."

1) CP means a character that is well-developed.

= Character development for Ken in that we find out about him being last picked before and how he empathizes with Kelly's situation.

FANG SCENE

Ken initiates the discussion with Jacquie and Kelly talking about the dynamics on Kota where Jacquie says the entire tribe got along and Kelly says it was her and Paloma.

Ken: You guys looked like you got along really well after you guys won those challenges against us

We then had the scene where Ken, Crystal, and GC brought Kelly into their alliance. Ken was mostly in the background in this scene with Crystal and GC doing the talking at first, but we did get a key confessional from Ken where we get into his head and hear why he picked Kelly.

CONFESSIONAL ONE: When I saw Kelly on that mat and she was the last one picked, I knew I could sway her to my side because she did not get along with Kota. Yeah, and she's also hot. There you go.

Clearly, the reason that she's "hot" is not the true reason, but it's the reason that he wants some of his tribemates to believe.

1) CP means a character that is well-developed. Their editing has depth to it, and their choices are presented to the audience so that we get an insight into their thinking. We generally see their strengths and flaws. Not too surprisingly, these are the major players in the course of the game, and it is their choices that shape the story.

= Ken's choice of Kelly was presented to us and explained at the Switch and in confessional. We know why he picked her and how it related to his strategy.

3) Someone who expresses internal conflict over a situation, someone who expresses a "deep" or turbulent emotion like remorse, loneliness, or betrayal expressed intelligently and not like "You're a liar, T!;" someone who demonstrates a complex strategy or bold strategic move and their reasoning for it.

He then says "Kelly, you should stick with us. We'll take care of you."

CONFESSIONAL ONE, CON'T: Right now, I'm only using her for a vote.

2) CP shows complexity of thought about the game

= I wouldn't just apply this guideline to this quote, but to most of his edit. He's involved in quite a bit of strategizing later on in the episode too.

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE

Jeff mentioned a few times that Ken was not helping his tribe during the challenge, including one where he was called "virtually useless."

FANG STRATEGY SCENE

At the beginning of the scene, GC says that Ken sucked during the challenge and Ken says he was going around in circles and he couldn't figure out what to do.

Ken: So G, what do you think? We need to keep Ace?

G.C. then says they should switch it to Kelly because she has a bad attitude about stuff and Jacquie did alright today.

Ken: I'm good with Kelly. I'll put her down. You okay with Kelly, Crystal?

G.C. then brings up that if Sugar has the Immunity Idol she wouldn't give it to Kelly, but she'd give it to Jacquie.

Ken: If we vote Kelly tonight, it'd be a risk.

Matty then comes into the discussion and asks if they're voting out Kelly. Ken tells him that it's Jacquie instead.

Ken: Jacquie, because if Sugar comes through with an Immunity Idol, (muffled talk from Crystal and G.C.) she'll share it…

The next part of the scene is a conversation between Ken and Jacquie. I didn't include what Jacquie says in the transcript below.

Ken: People are scared. […] You came from Kota and no one really knows you.

Ken: Because Kelly was ranked eighth in that thing and everybody feels that she was the outsider. […] I know I don't want to see you leave, but if I did vote with you, then it wouldn't have mattered anyways. My vote will not count. It'll still be outnumbered.

Jacquie tells Ken that she wants to be with "you guys" (Ken, Crystal, G.C.)

CONFESSIONAL TWO: Jacquie seems very genuine. After I had a talk with Jacquie, I kinda wanted to go take out Kelly before Jacquie. If we make the wrong choice right now, it will hurt really bad later, so my mind is not made up right now.

3) Someone who expresses internal conflict over a situation, someone who expresses a "deep" or turbulent emotion like remorse, loneliness, or betrayal expressed intelligently and not like "You're a liar, T!;" someone who demonstrates a complex strategy or bold strategic move and their reasoning for it.

= We hear that Ken is undecided about the vote and he's considering voting for Kelly over Jacquie, so once again his choices are presented to the audience and this is supposed to make it look like he's up-in-the-air. Like with Crystal's edit, traditionally someone who's portrayed as a swing vote is usually CP because we see them weighing out both sides.

Ken: <to Jacquie> I don't have any power. I can try to vote for Kelly tonight, but it's not gonna do anything. You really need to talk to Crystal.

TRIBAL COUNCIL

Ken is asked a TCQ about whether or not he trusts the old Kota members.

Ken: Right now, in three days, it's really hard to trust anybody, Jeff. We have to build trust from the beginning and see who they really are and that's how you trust somebody.

= Strategic / insightful comment

Ken is then asked a TCQ about who should be most worried if the original Fang votes together.

Ken: I would say Kelly and Jacquie have to be worried tonight because we do need physical players on this tribe to start winning challenges, so either one of them.

3) Someone who expresses internal conflict over a situation,

= Maybe not really "internal conflict" but again, he's presenting the two boot options to us and is supposed to be seen as somewhat of a swing vote.

4) If the player gets quality screen time and is either shown multiple times being strategic or shows a multi-dimensional side, then you go with CP.

= I would say that this applies to his edit, although that may just be me.

So, to conclude, I believe that all four of the criteria for CP clearly apply to Ken's edit in this episode and I would be very interested in seeing arguments to the contrary. BTW, I also feel GC should have been CP so I really don't want to see Ken miss out.