Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1

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cindidindi76		#3101	[-]
Posts: 13755 (12/05/08 2:11 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	CSCin3D wrote: lol @ ashes actually being involved in the family visit <3 Lol, I thought the same thing too. At least it was actually people ashes carried by a person, not Jeff carrying out an urn of dog ashes. Dumb dumb Kenny, falling for ANOTHER fake idol and showing his hand. Smart move by Crystal to not jump the gun and suspecting a fake idol. I really don't get what Kenny was thinking with that vote. He's the one that told Crystal to still vote for Corrine, and he was going to vote for Matty. Why? If they actually had the feast idol, it wouldn't have mattered who he voted for, and he wouldn't be in trouble now.
LibrasAbandonedChild1		#3102	[-]
Posts: 142 (12/05/08 2:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JFerrero wrote: Since Jeff is talking up Susie in his blog I think she's definitely F3 but due to her non-existent edit she can't possibly win. Sugar's got to be F3 since she has an idol, is not a physical threat and has enemies on the jury. She can't possibly win either, because Randy, Corinne and even Charlie basically said her gamplay is weak and she is annoying. So whoever goes to the F3 with Sugar and Susie will probably be the winner. Per the new TV guide interview, Jeff claimed Crystal's chances of winning were "slim" which struck me as odd since I don't see how she could lose vs S&S. JP also said Kenny and Bob are definite winners IF they make F3, and he didn't really offer an opinion on Matty's chances. Bob's a big threat to win jury votes, I just don't see him making it to F3. Since everyone is already targeting Matty, I don't see why they'd back off and let him get to F3. Kenny's recent edit is suggesting his beheading is near. But maybe that's misdirection and he does in fact win. Yes, I was very happy to see Jeff talking about Susie in his blog, and what he said was very true. Also, that "agreement that could completely change the game" i'm guessing is Susie, Sugar, and Matty making a pact to take out Crystal and Kenny after they boot Bob.
urrout		#3103	[-]
Posts: 1732 (12/05/08 2:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Just the opposite, imo. He is giving Kenny some credit as a strong player and saying Kenny didn't get the "short end of the stick".
KJ4TheWin		#3104	[-]
Posts: 97 (12/05/08 2:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	survivor300 wrote: KJ4TheWin wrote: The only possible way it could be Bob, in my opinion is if they coloured his pants red, or else they are stand-ins. Because Bob doesn't have red pants/shorts. There are other people in that pic that we can not account for. Maybe they are production or something. and maybe Bob just happened not to be in the cameras view. I'm pretty sure we can account for Sugar, Kenny, Susie and Crystal in the picture. Matty or Bob is the trailing person. There really is no chance that Bob is just not in the camera view, because the entire panned out view, you can clearly see there is only 5 people there.
EastCoastPipeDaddy	Hmmmm	#3105	[-]
Posts: 1550 (12/05/08 2:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	For me: Crystal definitely seems like the definite winner. She would prefer to get the 3 guys out in the order of Bob (6th), Kenny (5) & Matty (4). We have seen how much of a strategic/physical threat that Bob is. He is seen as a bigger threat than Kenny/Matty. Even though Kenny is her closest ally, she may break off her ties with him to secure a final 3 position with Susie/Sugar.
CSCin3D		#3106	[-]
Posts: 10533 (12/05/08 2:36 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Crystal wins. Sucks drowns in its own ejaculate. The end.
cindidindi76		#3107	[-]
Posts: 13757 (12/05/08 2:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	No way does Crystal want Kenny gone before Matty. If that was the case she would have just told Matty that Kenny was voting for him and gotten them all to vote out Kenny last night.
JFerrero		#3108	[-]
Posts: 40 (12/05/08 2:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Am I the only one who thought Bob and Corinne's plan was seriously weak. If they had the balls, they would have blackmailed K&C into BOTH writing down Matty's name or otherwise Corinne would send one of THEM home. Bob and Corrine's plan was kinda smart but had no muscle behind it, which has been my problem with Kota all along. They're strategic thinkers who have no finesse and no arm-twisiting ability to make their plans stick. K&C would have had a choice to call Corinne's bluff or flip alliances. And this episode totally ruined Kenny for me. He's a mastermind only in his own mind. By wasting his vote on Matty when he didn't have to, Kenny was proven to be both gullible for believing Bob the idolmaker, and stupid (one vote is all it takes to send Matty home if Corinne has the idol). Maybe this season it is better to do nothing but wait until everyone else self-destructs. If so, Susie and Matty should be headed to the finals.
Kirblar		#3109	[-]
Posts: 7052 (12/05/08 2:52 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	What they needed to say was this- "Hey, Kenny- we're both writing your name down and playing the idol. But, if you and Crystal write down Matty's name, we'll flip on the revote and vote out Matty." Then, of course, Bob and Corrine write down Matty's name to begin with.
Monkeyshow		#3110	[-]
Posts: 479 (12/05/08 3:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	cindidindi76 wrote: I really don't get what Kenny was thinking with that vote. He's the one that told Crystal to still vote for Corrine, and he was going to vote for Matty. Why? If they actually had the feast idol, it wouldn't have mattered who he voted for, and he wouldn't be in trouble now. The only thing I can figure is Kenny wanted to take credit for another "big move". He seriously miscalculated and overplayed, cause you're right, he could have achieved the same thing without putting his own neck on the line
SwineForkbeard		#3111	[-]
Posts: 1930 (12/05/08 3:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	What they needed to say was this- "Hey, Kenny- we're both writing your name down and playing the idol. But, if you and Crystal write down Matty's name, we'll flip on the revote and vote out Matty." Then, of course, Bob and Corrine write down Matty's name to begin with. Exactly. They could have pulled off the most exquisite blindside ever. Knowing that Kenstal are so tight and protective of each other, Bob and Corinne should have made them think they were the ones in danger. They set it up so Kenstal had nothing to lose whether the idol was real or not, so they were unlikely to vote strictly on Corinne's terms.
JFerrero		#3112	[-]
Posts: 43 (12/05/08 3:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah, Bob and Corinne's plan was lacking. And why did they try this halfassed scheme on the one guy they think is the smartest Fang member. Why not try it on Matty and Susie? Why even target Matty? If you're down in the numbers everyone's a threat. You vote out whoever people are willing to flip on. Susie already flipped on Marcus. She'd flip again. And Corinne already said Matty's a pushover and let's face it, he's not exactly a Rhodes scholar. So why spring this "brilliant" plan on Kenny?
JFerrero		#3113	[-]
Posts: 44 (12/05/08 3:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Ooh, Corinne just said in her RNO interview that if Sugar was hit by a car and dying on the side of the road that she would not scrape her body off the pavement. She also said people would not be dissapointed in her next confrontation with Sugar (whatever that might be. hint. hint.). Sounds like we're headed for a final tribal that WILL be awesome.
SwineForkbeard		#3114	[-]
Posts: 1931 (12/05/08 4:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Corinne should realize that comments like that, in the context of somebody who was just voted out by the people she's trashing, will just be seen as typical sour grapes. The fact that she had nice parting words for Kenny, the only Fang member to vote for Matty, also suggests she's just another twatwaffle who resents anybody who didn't do what she wanted them to do. That's why I think the onions have particular enmity for Sugar. She was the swing vote at the merge, chose Fang over onion, and they never forgave her for it.
MMan9000		#3115	[-]
Posts: 222 (12/05/08 4:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In the Insider voting clip, Crystal revealed that she never had any intention of helping Bob/Corinne (she said something about how tight her alliance is). So, she now has an advantage over Ken because she can say she voted for Corinne. Apparently, at least according to Ken, they would've approached Susie to blindside Sugar (or Matty, I can't really tell), but she wouldn't have any part of it. I don't know why, but I can't see Ken making it to the end or even winning. He's overconfident, and unless the preview is a misdirection, he has alienated Sugar, which could make her decide to side with Matty/Susie at the Final Five.
urrout		#3116	[-]
Posts: 1733 (12/05/08 5:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Kirblar wrote: What they needed to say was this- "Hey, Kenny- we're both writing your name down and playing the idol. But, if you and Crystal write down Matty's name, we'll flip on the revote and vote out Matty." Then, of course, Bob and Corrine write down Matty's name to begin with. K/C could vote for someone else other than Matty then Corrine would be gone with 3 votes from Susie, Matty and Sugar. 3-2-2 = No revote.
I LUV TIJUANA		#3117	[-]
Posts: 11825 (12/05/08 5:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	My only doubts about Matty winning is his lack of connection with any jurors. He doesn't know Marcus and he hasn't bonded at all with Corinne or Charlie. His only real connection is Randy. Crystal and Sugar have ties that seem more significant that have been shown to us as potential factors in the final vote.
LKMOSCAR		#3118	[-]
Posts: 5523 (12/05/08 5:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sugar is almost definitely a finalist with theat Corinne quote. Another thing of note, Corinne said that Ken was gullible, and she said that she may have overestimated Ken and Crystal. This could mean that she votes for one of them in the finals because she thought that they were really smart.
tullfan2		#3119	[-]
Posts: 2961 (12/05/08 5:44 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	survivor300 wrote: The final 5 pic has matty missing , not Bob. We can only hope that this is true. Ken/Crystal/Sugar/Susie have all participated in at least one game changing move/decision and at least Bob makes his artistic fake idols but Matty has done absolutely nothing. He is the person out of those left that I would least want to see win.
chad6		#3120	[-]
Posts: 2190 (12/05/08 5:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'm pretty sure Corinne will vote for Ken if he's in the final 3. If not, then she would vote Crystal I think.

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Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1