It shows that the game is not about gimmicks.
It never was, and never is. It's always been a show about people and human relationships.
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Posts: 7115 (12/15/08 12:08 AM) Registered user |
It never was, and never is. It's always been a show about people and human relationships. |
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Posts: 12 (12/15/08 12:10 AM) |
survivorjordancontestant wrote: I'm not a Crystal fan too,and i really agree with you two. |
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James Barber |
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Posts: 14774 (12/15/08 12:13 AM) Registered User |
Not when relationships are barely formed because of all the excessive twists. If Fang had continued to dominate then at least two or three people on the jury would have barely had any interaction, ever, with the F3. I think Charlie knew Crystal and Ken for less than a day. That's already happened in a few other seasons, like Fiji, which were also spoiled by too much producer meddling. |
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Seyz |
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Posts: 317 (12/15/08 1:35 AM) |
Bob winning for sure. Proof that there is no god... and that the world is a messed up place.
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Kev80 |
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Posts: 31 (12/15/08 1:42 AM) |
Maybe the whole of next season should be one big merged tribe. So it's all about individual immunity from Day 1 and forging alliances.
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Kirblar |
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Posts: 7121 (12/15/08 1:43 AM) Registered user |
James Barber wrote:Yeah, because Merge boots always have SO much interaction with the other tribe. 
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James Barber |
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Posts: 14780 (12/15/08 1:58 AM) Registered User |
Yeah, because Merge boots always have SO much interaction with the other tribe.In the earliest seasons they had at least two or three days. Not even a day, or in some seasons, no interaction at all, is ridiculous. |
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Posts: 2256 (12/15/08 2:17 AM) |
Since Pearl Islands, there are more and more bad gimmicks to keep the show "fresh". That is the problem with the show (as well as this season) - as
much as we at home can crow about how a good player can adapt to any situation, you can't adapt if you find yourself shortchanged by a twist that suddenly
puts you at a position of clear disadvantage. As a result, Survivor has become less of an interesting social game. Instead, the editors find ways to appeal to
the audience's emotions. Hence, the whole UNDERDOGS R GOOD!!!!! message manufactured and forced upon by the editors.
Something is fucked up when one of the most popular contestants this season is one of the worst challenge-players of all time who has ZERO social skills and very little strategic skills. When the show has to justify those who got lucky after a few twists as the underdogs to keep people cheering for them, that's when this show is in trouble. |
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Kirblar |
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Posts: 7125 (12/15/08 2:21 AM) Registered user |
It's a game, and games have luck involved. You can't get rid of it.
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Miss Alley Shack |
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Posts: 2257 (12/15/08 2:43 AM) |
We aren't talking about luck here as much as twists designed to "keep things interesting" - twists that you and I both know will ruin some
contestants' game. Pay attention, darling.
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Kirblar |
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Posts: 7127 (12/15/08 2:44 AM) Registered user |
Miss Alley Shack wrote:Some contestants are doomed the moment they're put in their tribe. (Skinny Ryan probably the #1 example.) Shit happens. It's the nature of the game. |
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Psprecinctprez |
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Posts: 599 (12/15/08 2:45 AM) |
bob winning... it made it worse that he admitted he had barely any strategy...
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TV MA LSV |
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Posts: 142 (12/15/08 2:57 AM) Registered user |
Angelica2003 wrote: I KNOW! A physics teacher with no concept of a hexagon? He should have been disqualified for that alone. |
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James Barber |
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Posts: 14783 (12/15/08 3:16 AM) Registered User |
Psprecinctprez wrote:Neither did most of the other players, unless strategy means believing in their own brilliance/moral superiority. Bob was better off talking as little about strategy as possible. The Onions were less likely to vote for him if he acted like he'd had a great plan all along. |
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tdugan333 |
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Posts: 8916 (12/15/08 3:23 AM) |
The best part of Bob winning is all the Onion fans (ssts) thinking this is some big giant retribution win. Fuck off. W all know that he was never a part of
the Onion. He was the shit you flake off immediately upon getting it home from the store and he ended up kicking all their dumb mactor asses. Plus you know
him and his totally randy wife (did you see her "fuck me now with that beard" look at the award challenge?) are going to do it six ways to Sunday
when they get home tonight. Heh. YAY BOB!
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Pencookie |
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Posts: 56 (12/15/08 3:51 AM) |
Steph <3
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solesurvivor |
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Posts: 5 (12/15/08 4:09 AM) |
The Onions had 4 votes to decide who's the winner...
think about it. It doesn't matter what the F3 say... |
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survivorjordancontestant |
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Posts: 1626 (12/15/08 4:16 AM) Registered user |
Miss Alley Shack wrote: you do realize that after all this time, the twists are really a part of the game and any contestant whose game suffers due to them being unprepared for it only shows that said contestant didn't have any game at all. You'd be harping a different tune if the twists have been part of the first season. what ruined this season is the self-congratulatory onion alliance none of whom grasped any real concept of what the game is about and how it should be played.
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Posts: 8 (12/15/08 8:15 AM) |
Sugar really ruined this ending for me too.
I love strategic players, calculating players who think a few moves ahead, players who are actually thinking about jury votes. This season the closest thing we had to that was Kenny, which is why I wanted him to win so bad. Once Kenny left I really didn't give a shit. Sugar's utter randomness in her decision-making was worse than a million tribal swaps and twists. And it ensured a totally suspense-free F3. Plus I can't even describe how much I fucking hate it when the "good people" argument comes up in this game. So this season ends up not being about strategy, or alliances, or anything really except "good prevails" which is bullshit and antithetical to the very nature of Survivor. I mean, I like Bob. But I hate how he won. |
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Posts: 284 (12/15/08 8:27 AM) |
smokiedokie wrote: X x infinity |
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