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Posts: 599 (12/15/08 11:47 AM) |
Survivor: Brazil is going to be very different from Gabon. A lot of likable people and a very differently played game. I think you are going to like it. Sounds good! I really enjoyed Gabon but the bitterness quotient was a bit too high for my liking. It reminded me of ASS in that way. A season with likeable people will be a nice change of pace. Besides, it's always good when Jeff says we're going to like the season. He never said that about Fiji, Thailand, Guatemala, etc. |
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Posts: 7215 (12/15/08 11:54 AM) Registered User |
A lot of likable people and a very differently played game. I think you are going to like it.Given that Probst liked Matty, Kenny and Sugar, I am considering this comment to be a big warning sign 
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Posts: 16 (12/15/08 11:58 AM) |
A Dying Clown wrote: What was probst thinking, I mean liking some of the few interesting characters this season had. Kenny and Sugar saved this season by getting rid of the nasty onions. Survivor Brazil eh, does anyone know when the next season usually starts? |
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Casey333 |
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Posts: 602 (12/15/08 11:59 AM) |
February 12th.
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Kirblar |
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Posts: 7134 (12/15/08 12:02 PM) Registered user |
I do think that they need to keep the contestants monitored and stop from talking about their final vote. The really, really obvious Kota bloc vote this
season (complete with triforce) was pretty gross.
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burnettfollower |
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Posts: 1537 (12/15/08 1:41 PM) Registered user |
I'm so sick and tired of people saying that the only reason why Sugar didn't get any votes whatsoever is because she had a hand in voting out everyone
on the jury. Well, up until Crystal and his own boot so did Kenny. He and Crystal had a major hand in getting the first four jury members out and Sugar had
gone along with it. Susie, also had a hand in getting some of the people voted out. If she hadn't agreed to switch when she did, things would look alot
different. Maybe the same people would have been on t he jury, but in a different order. And Bob too had a hand in voting off Randy (he knew it was going to
happen, at the very least, and didn't come up with anything to change it), Crystal, and Kenny.
So don't tell me that Sugar didn't get a vote because she stabbed everyone in the back, because she didn't. She was in no alliance with anyone from the alliance, and I mean no one. It's not like she owed them anything because they thought they had a god given right to treat her like shit. It's not she said to herself "Oh, I better keep Corinne, Randy, Marcus and Charlie around because they deserve to be here over me and because they don't like me." And she's allowed to make her own decisions to better her prospects in the game. Hello, it's called outwit, and that's what she did. |
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pjadedd |
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Posts: 7965 (12/15/08 2:51 PM) Registered User |
AndreSurvivor wrote:I agree, it should be smart, but isn't always. Yes, she had the idol (which I think played a part in her receiving no votes prior to the final TC), but she had a way of making a move and not having everyone pissed at her. Kenny still wanted to align with her after she got rid of Crystal. Even though she was hated, for some reason when Randy and Corinne thought Bob's idol was real, they targeted Susie. They could've gotten rid of Sugar. I think she played a good "get to the final TC" game. She got the players she wanted at the end to the end. Only Susie winning the final immunity challenge changed that. I'm glad Jeff mentioned everyone's bitterness and not just the onions. The Onion alliance got a lot of negative publicity for being bitter. I don't necessarily disagree completely. I think some people were too quick to jump on any negative remark made, which is ridiculous. You can be completely at peace with losing, but still have negative things to say about people. Everyone says Bob won because The Onions were bitter, but do people really believe that Matty, Crystal, and Kenny all believed that Susie played the best game? We know Matty voted for her because they were friends since day 1. I don't see that any different than people voting for Bob for the same reason. Also, I think you're going to get more backlash if you're eliminated earlier. I read Sugar's RNO interview. I completely see her still being upset with Corinne and having nothing nice to say about her. But, she still calls Randy a troll and then she did the thing I really hate. I hate when an interviewer brings up something negative said about her, and she returns it with more negativity, not addressing what happened. The interviewer brought up Charlie saying Sugar was nasty around camp and took everyone's bags to make clothes. That is the only negative thing Charlie said about practically anyone. Sugar basically says he's stupid for being nice to her when away from the Onions, but laughing at their jokes. And that he can suck an onion. OK, yeah, Charlie could've stood up, but being nice to someone doesn't necessarily mean he likes you. I can be nice to people I don't like if I need to be and will laugh if my friends make jokes at their expense (sue me, I'm human). If Sugar was voted out earlier and said Randy was a troll, other people sucked, I would hope everyone would call her bitter too. If you're such a nice, sweet person, shouldn't you let those things slide? Sorry, rant over. I just find that behavior hypocritical. |
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I LUV TIJUANA |
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Posts: 11865 (12/15/08 3:50 PM) Registered user |
Casey333 wrote:Yeah this comment makes me optimistic. I don't think the game aspect of Gabon was all that great. |
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OrsNaz |
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Posts: 17 (12/15/08 5:54 PM) |
pjadedd wrote: I despise the Onions but I do not deny that Sugar is a hypocrite. She made a lot of hypocritical moves and the whole "I am voting out the "bad" guys" thing was silly. Shes got a lot of maturing to do. I loved her on the show and she played a good game but if she was better than the onions she wouldn't react like a 10 year old. Best way is to deal with trashy people is to ignore them. Sugar needs to learn that. |
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CSCin3D |
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Posts: 10796 (12/15/08 6:21 PM) Registered user |
Survivor: Brazil is going to be very different from Gabon. A lot of likable people and a very differently played game. I think you are going to like it.Uh-oh. |
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ZombieLinda |
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Posts: 6164 (12/15/08 8:43 PM) |
eek it's a guaranteed snoozefest now
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Mister Plum |
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Posts: 4932 (12/16/08 5:08 AM) |
Yeah, everytime Jeff says good things about an upcoming season, it is really frightening that he's probably trying to make us like it or probably he's
just making us excited for it for us to stay loyal to Survivor.
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kennethp21 |
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Posts: 3758 (12/16/08 7:29 AM) Registered User |
Mister Plum wrote:x before Fiji aired, Jeff said he liked it because everyone was recruited so everything felt fresh, and then right before the china started, he said Fiji sucked. |
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Posts: 486 (12/16/08 10:57 AM) |
I must be in the minority because I am very unsatisfied with the Bob win. Well, at least it was not Matty, who did the least strategically of anyone in the
final tribe. Bitter juries are great TV but they never reward the strategic winner. However, that being said, despite Sugar being a strategic player, I hope
it humbled her to see that she got no votes. I personally believe that Matty, Kenny and Crystal would have voted for her had she not flipped and flopped from
alliance to alliance. How could she stand there and say that she was never in an alliance to the very people who trusted you? Stupid end game. To me, of the
three, Susie would have been the most palatable but even then, not really. Disappointing final 3, with the exception of Sugar, whose tribal council was so
terrible that I knew before any votes were read that she would get nothing. I love how the onions were trying to help Bob say what he did that was strategic
in the game and he kept saying nothing. He should have owned up to the two fake idols and the hoodwinking of several jury members on both sides.
Not including Charlie, the onions were so bitter in tribal council that you would have thought they had experienced more than just being voted out. At least Corinne and Randy own it. Nasty as they are, they are still better than Marcus. He came across to me as bitter, arrogant and self aggrandizing. For me, the clear villian of the show. I was hoping the audience would boo him. America voted Bob their favorite player. I guess America does not appreciate strategic gameplay but rather vote for Grandpa. Well, if it keeps the masses happy and my favorite show on the air, I have no complaints. For the record, this was not the worst winner of Survivor, that still belongs to Amber. |
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saltidor |
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Posts: 16 (12/16/08 9:44 PM) |
I think the winner doesnt always have to be the strategic player.. survivor is a social, physical and strategic game, not only strategic.. Sugar was my fave
but that Bob didnt make many moves doesn't mean he is a bad winner, we are so used to see the the Yul or Earl kind of winner but we forget survivor is much
more than strategy.. Bob had a lot of things that make him a good winner.. not only winning challenges, he was also very smart, likeable, down to earth guy, he
made 2 awesome fake HII, yeah, i wont deny it, i would have loves to see Sugar win, but she didnt even wanted it.. i hate though that this awesome characters
like Sugar, Crystal or Courtney will never win because in the game they are not really strong, however they are the most entertaining.. i would like to se more
diversity of winners.. Bob is pretty different from previous winner though
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Cassidy666 |
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Posts: 9294 (12/17/08 3:45 AM) Registered User |
I LUV TIJUANA wrote: People actually playing smart? Please don't tease us like this and raise our hopes for no reason, Jeff! |
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AndreSurvivor |
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Posts: 301 (12/17/08 9:55 AM) |
This season really could have used a F2: Marcus wouldn't have been on the jury, and maybe we could have gotten a Susie/Sugar F2, which would have been
awe-inspiring in its goatiness; or if Sugar managed to get Bob into the finals with her, more Fangs on the jury and a better litmus test as to whether Bob
would get any of their votes over Sugar.
Dammit. |
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AmaiLover |
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Posts: 275 (12/17/08 11:57 PM) |
Yea we're screwed. Where is the next season going to be played after brazil?
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Mypoody2 |
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Posts: 8456 (12/18/08 9:12 AM) Registered User |
Man the positivity in this place is delightful! Remind me to visit when I'm diagnosed with Cancer. -_-
Spoilers say that an insider said it's the one of the best seasons, so shut your pie holes. FYI, Bob, Sugar and Matty WERE likeable and very entertaining. It's just because sucks has a complex about conforming so they have to hate everyone America loves. See: Rupert, Ozzy, Stephenie, James and many many more fan favorites. Sucks somehow thinks that strategy = entertainment, however strategy is fucking boring. If you want strategy go play a game of chess, that's about how entertaining strategy is. Strategy is only entertaining when it results in the blindside of a good character. |
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YESsheIS |
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Posts: 97 (12/18/08 10:38 AM) Registered user |
After Brazil it's Mongolia.
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