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Kirblar		#261	[-]
Posts: 7404 (01/13/09 3:25 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gojoseon wrote: Kirblar wrote: The problem is that no one realized they needed to slaughter the goat before it became dangerous. If someone becomes aware that they can't win- they tend to start voting emotionally. No one has ever played the game like Sugar before, so I don't blame any of the other players. They did what was normally best. Even goats usually don't play like that. Even Katie and Clay weren't that erratic Lill-S7, Jon-S13, Courtney-S12. There's a long history of these types of things happening when players have lost all hope of actually winning the game.
Mikester		#262	[-]
Posts: 754 (01/13/09 3:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kirblar wrote: Gojoseon wrote: Kirblar wrote: The problem is that no one realized they needed to slaughter the goat before it became dangerous. If someone becomes aware that they can't win- they tend to start voting emotionally. No one has ever played the game like Sugar before, so I don't blame any of the other players. They did what was normally best. Even goats usually don't play like that. Even Katie and Clay weren't that erratic Lill-S7, Jon-S13, Courtney-S12. There's a long history of these types of things happening when players have lost all hope of actually winning the game. Who is Jon-S13?
kenc333		#263	[-]
Posts: 6670 (01/13/09 3:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well I don't think Bob didn't deserve it, and I'm not necessarily saying Sugar deserved it more (but my personal opinion is that she did), but it depends how you look at it. They both have the underdog factor going for them... I think Bob played a better social, physical and mental game, whereas Sugar's strategic game was much better than Bob's, as he admitted to at the FTC.
Kirblar		#264	[-]
Posts: 7406 (01/13/09 3:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mikester wrote: Who is Jon-S13? Jonathan Penner. kenc333 wrote: Well I don't think Bob didn't deserve it, and I'm not necessarily saying Sugar deserved it more (but my personal opinion is that she did), but it depends how you look at it. They both have the underdog factor going for them... I think Bob played a better social, physical and mental game, whereas Sugar's strategic game was much better than Bob's, as he admitted to at the FTC. If you aren't playing to win, then you aren't playing a strategic game at all, imo.
craig		#265	[-]
Posts: 14722 (01/13/09 3:32 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The problem is that no one realized they needed to slaughter the goat before it became dangerous. Yes, goat strategy didn't work for Rob C and Fairplay. Only Brian and Tom made it work by dominating the final challenges. Betteer to play the Rafe Gambit with Corinne than give a loose cannon goat all the power in the endgame..
Axolotl		#266	[-]
Posts: 360 (01/13/09 3:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	muskger99 wrote: Axolotl wrote: You can't even compare Steph and Sugar. Steph played a decent game, but it was unfortunate people looked at her as undeserving just because she'd played the game before No, Stepheme did the same "deserving/bad person" song and dance as Sugar did. Stepheme had a great hold over her alliance, never needed to backstab them and could have dragged Judd's fat ass to the finals and slaughtered him. I will give Steph credit in that, unlike Sugar, she was playing to win but had absolutely no concept of how to be able to do it. I disagree. Stephenie barely had a chance to win, because she was only 1 of 2 Favorites in a cast of 16 other Fans. Right from the start they considered her undeserving and even thought of voting her out right away
Kirblar		#267	[-]
Posts: 7407 (01/13/09 3:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Steph would have slaughtered Judd in a final vote. She lost because she was simply an enabler for Rafe's hyper-moralistic game and burned all of her bridges.
7Sages		#268	[-]
Posts: 263 (01/13/09 3:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kirblar wrote: Gojoseon wrote: Kirblar wrote: The problem is that no one realized they needed to slaughter the goat before it became dangerous. If someone becomes aware that they can't win- they tend to start voting emotionally. No one has ever played the game like Sugar before, so I don't blame any of the other players. They did what was normally best. Even goats usually don't play like that. Even Katie and Clay weren't that erratic Lill-S7, Jon-S13, Courtney-S12. There's a long history of these types of things happening when players have lost all hope of actually winning the game. No I agree that nobody played like Sugar before. Lill, Courtney, and Jonathan were all trying to win. Sugar flat out didn't care and said so in the insider clips, knowing that her main goal was to improve her mactress career through the show. There are some similarities, but Sugar is in her own category. Lill could've won Pearl Islands, but made a Colby-like move at the end. Courtney probably didn't have a chance at winning. I'm not really sure what her plan was exactly, whether it be to go to final 3 with Danielle and Terry or go to final 2 with Shane. Jonathan was in a lose-lose situation, but went for a high risk move of betting on a fake final 2 deal
OnlyMatthew		#269	[-]
Posts: 1426 (01/13/09 4:05 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hi charlie
8th Sonata		#270	[-]
Posts: 554 (01/13/09 4:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hi Charlie. Since Jacquie left you guys so early in the game, what is your relationship like with her compared to the rest of the onions? Or even the other players like Bob
bassoon291		#271	[-]
Posts: 7223 (01/13/09 4:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hey Charlie! A few questions, none of them about strategy: - In the same line of questioning about the trip to Paris... there's a picture floating around with you and Marcus outside some bistro somewhere. Where is that? - What exactly was with Marcus "eating fruit" off your shoulder after the fruit-slinging challenge? Cute moment, but odd explanation. - Had you gone to Exile, would you have chosen the Clue or the Comfort? - Whose idea was "Nobag" as a tribe name? It's possibly the worst tribe name ever. Last time Survivor was in Africa, they gave them a Swahili-English dictionary. Did the merged tribe get any help from production in choosing a name? And also major Charcus <3
sackingsfan33		#272	[-]
Posts: 228 (01/13/09 4:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	just because Sugar made a lot of bold moves doesn't mean she was strategic. Example.... voting off Crystal and Ken and going with Matty and Bob totally screwed her last possible chance. The only way she would have MAYBE even gotten votes would have been with Susie and Crystal. She was not strategic, she was a retarded attention whore trying to be famous on a reality TV show. Lucky for her she had the idol, so that along with being the biggest goat ever, never made anyone else want to get rid of her. Wake up people, there is a reason Susie somehow got 3 votes and Sugar got none.
Kartnaller		#273	[-]
Posts: 129 (01/13/09 4:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think Sugar was strategic... But from the TOP3, she was the best player. And Sugar was a sweet heart, not a good player. She's nothing compared to Cirie.
Kaizer		#274	[-]
Posts: 427 (01/13/09 4:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kartnaller wrote: I don't think Sugar was strategic... But from the TOP3, she was the best player. And Sugar was a sweet heart, not a good player. She's nothing compared to Cirie. Even with the coattail riding top 3, Sugar was not the best player. In fact, of the entire cast, not playing to win makes her the worst player. Susie and Bob were trying to win, which is why Susie almost won, and Bob did win while Sugar wasn't even in contention
Will		#275	[-]
Posts: 32969 (01/13/09 5:21 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I just have to at how quick CA changed his opinion about Charlie.
Mister Yuck		#276	[-]
Posts: 4411 (01/13/09 5:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	bassoon291 wrote: Hey Charlie! A few questions, none of them about strategy: - In the same line of questioning about the trip to Paris... there's a picture floating around with you and Marcus outside some bistro somewhere. Where is that? - What exactly was with Marcus "eating fruit" off your shoulder after the fruit-slinging challenge? Cute moment, but odd explanation. - Had you gone to Exile, would you have chosen the Clue or the Comfort? - Whose idea was "Nobag" as a tribe name? It's possibly the worst tribe name ever. Last time Survivor was in Africa, they gave them a Swahili-English dictionary. Did the merged tribe get any help from production in choosing a name? And also major Charcus <3 could you be any boringer?
TheEasyOne		#277	[-]
Posts: 1238 (01/13/09 5:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	how bad did everyone stink? was there anyone in particular who smelled the worst?
Quiddity		#278	[-]
Posts: 4609 (01/13/09 5:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Axolotl wrote: muskger99 wrote: Axolotl wrote: You can't even compare Steph and Sugar. Steph played a decent game, but it was unfortunate people looked at her as undeserving just because she'd played the game before No, Stepheme did the same "deserving/bad person" song and dance as Sugar did. Stepheme had a great hold over her alliance, never needed to backstab them and could have dragged Judd's fat ass to the finals and slaughtered him. I will give Steph credit in that, unlike Sugar, she was playing to win but had absolutely no concept of how to be able to do it. I disagree. Stephenie barely had a chance to win, because she was only 1 of 2 Favorites in a cast of 16 other Fans. Right from the start they considered her undeserving and even thought of voting her out right away On the contrary, Stephenie had a ridiculous advantage because she was famous Stephenie, the girl who played the game before. She had a great many number of people aligning with her for that. Certainly overrides the single confessional from a single person (Jamie) in the first episode about how tough it would be for him to win with her around. Was there a single sentence the entire game from a player uttered where it was thought of voting her out solely because she played the game before? I certainly don't remember one. Stephenie would have won had she brought Judd to the end. She willfully chose to go to the end with people she had no chance of beating and paid the price for it. starjumper wrote:: I understand you all like Bob the best...as a person. The point, however, is to vote on gameplay...Bob didn't play the game. Um, no. The point is to vote for whatever reason you want. Any notion that as a jury member Charlie or anyone else is obligated to vote based on gameplay is total bullshit. Last Edited By: Quiddity 01/13/09 5:48 PM. Edited 1 times.
foce14		#279	[-]
Posts: 23 (01/13/09 5:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dear Charlie, We're friends on facebook. I absolutely adore you and was super pissed that you were voted out, period, let alone when you were. Your obsession with Marcus? Adorable. The end. You and Todd are my favorite survivors ever. =D
survivorsims07		#280	[-]
Posts: 1511 (01/13/09 7:02 PM) Hey! I kinda like it here! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dear Charlie- How did you family feel about you going on survivor? And since Eliza helped you get on the show do you feel the need to pay it forward, like get me on the show? :]

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