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Posts: 5179 (02/20/09 11:09 AM) |
solesurvivor01 wrote:You seem to forget... 
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solesurvivor01 |
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Posts: 5305 (02/20/09 11:19 AM) Registered user |
"YOU DUPED ME!!!11!!"
Nah, I remember. I know they both hated Brian's guts, but it seems clear that they always hated Clay more. |
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solesurvivor01 |
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Posts: 5306 (02/20/09 2:24 PM) Registered user |
Here's the next one. It's kind of a continuation of one of the entries I just did, but I'll explain why I consider them different moves.
25. Brian gets to the finals with his goat, Clay. Quote: "I have had to make some tough decisions, but I would rather be in my position than looking at one of those reefs and seeing my name on there." -Brian Heidik I just wrote an entry about Heidik, and while I told the whole story of how he won, it was only supposed to refer to the fact that he made successful duplicate alliances. This, however, refers to the fact that he got to the finals with the one person that anyone could beat in a jury vote. Sure, plenty of other people have done this (and some may pop up in some form later), but what's unique about Brian is that he picked up this goat extremely early on in the game. Yeah, Clay was a good strategist and decent in the challenges, but when it came to the jury, his social game sucked. The three potential Sook Jai votes were only three votes, and Brian acquired the other four, so Clay couldn't do much. So just to be clear, this refers to the fact that Brian picked up a goat so early on in the game, stuck with him, and got him to the end; it does not refer to his duplicate alliances. Reasons not higher: He did almost lose to Clay, after all. 
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Thailandsurvivor |
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Posts: 5183 (02/20/09 2:47 PM) |
There were 4 Sook Jai votes up for grabs. Clay is probably one of the hardest players to catagorize. One one hand, he had one of the best social games of all
time when talking to the Sook Jai's, yet Chuay Gahn despised him. It says alot when Ghandia targetted Clay over freaking Ted after grindgate.
Also, it can't help that he's one of the least popular players of all time. I'm one of the very few who appreciate how great of a character Clay was. Yeah, Clay was a good strategist and decent in the challenges
The guy could barely swim, and he's almost a registered midgit. He beat Ken head to head in the first merge IC, but I can't think of much else he did well. |
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Quiddity |
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Posts: 4846 (02/20/09 5:54 PM) Registered User |
Thailandsurvivor wrote:Chris had the choice of going into F3 with a 21 year old, or one of two people who were either mid 40's or 60's. Not that tough to see why he made the decision he made. And even if you want to ignore that, Eliza would almost certainly net votes from Ami, Leann and Julie, while Eliza would pretty much vote for Chris no matter what he did since she hated Twila and Scout so much. Chris definately made the right call. |
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srvivrfreakevelrich |
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Posts: 346 (02/20/09 6:07 PM) Admin |
Quiddity wrote: but wouldnt you have just liked to see eliza pull out a win? come on, who wouldnt? |
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chad6 |
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Posts: 2764 (02/20/09 6:14 PM) Registered user |
I disagree with #25. Sure, Brian brought his goat to the end, but Clay was one vote away from beating him. A goat should be someone you beat easily.
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Quiddity |
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Posts: 4849 (02/20/09 6:15 PM) Registered User |
srvivrfreakevelrich wrote: Last I checked, this was the game's top strategical moves, not what I personally wanted to see. :) |
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Thailandsurvivor |
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Posts: 5188 (02/20/09 6:20 PM) |
I never said take Eliza to the finals, but there have been many challenge hogs falter in the final three challenge. If I were Chris, I would have wanted some
reassurance (as in automatically make the final two since Twila and Eliza would not take each other) instead of being in a win or go home situation.
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solesurvivor01 |
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Posts: 5310 (02/20/09 8:28 PM) Registered user |
The thing about voting with Eliza at the F4 is that he risks alienating Twila, who supposedly would have taken him to the F2 over Scout. If he just votes out
Eliza, he puts a guaranteed vote for himself on the jury and eliminates a potential challenge threat. He doesn't really have to worry about Scout beating
him in a challenge.
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Thailandsurvivor |
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Posts: 5196 (02/20/09 8:43 PM) |
I fail to see how Eliza and Julie were automatic votes for him after the severe blindsides. If his jury performance was not as good as it was or if Twila's
was even mediocre, he could have easily lost.
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solesurvivor01 |
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Posts: 5311 (02/20/09 10:38 PM) Registered user |
Thailandsurvivor wrote:Simple, they hated Scout and Twila. Apparently, they were a lot worse to her than what was shown on TV, so I think it's reasonable to say that Eliza was not voting for one of them if she had the chance. Julie wasn't exactly automatic for Chris, but she was...his to lose, in a way. She said she was either voting for him or against him, so I think it's safe to say that she was an easily attainable vote, and if Chris had Julie and Eliza plus the guys then that's four right there. |
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kishuu |
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Posts: 1212 (02/20/09 10:49 PM) |
add on to the fact Ami/LeAnn both hated Twout's guts after they betrayed them.
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solesurvivor01 |
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Posts: 5313 (02/20/09 11:19 PM) Registered user |
But Ami completely got over it after she was voted out, whereas Leann, didn't really. Queen Ami is so amazing <3. Today I drove through Golden, CO,
Ami's hometown, and I was very excited to do so!!!
Anyways, enough of my Queen Ami <3 (although you can never get enough of it). Here's the next one... 
24. The Black Widow Brigade successfully blindsides Jason and knocks the HII out of the game...again. Quote: "Floss my teeth with his jugular." -Natalie Bolton This was the episode where Natalie really emerged in her OTTN form, and OMFG thank god she did. There's not much to say about this other than Jason, the idiot, participated in blindsiding an immunity threat with an idol THREE FUCKING DAYS BEFORE. Natalie sent him to Exile Island where he found the HII, but then she mindfucked him into thinking she was his most loyal ally, when in reality, she hated his guts and wanted him out. The Black Widow Brigade, now including Amanda, had the numbers to split the vote just in case he did play the idol, but no. They all convinced him that he was safe and that James was the target, and suprise, Jason was blindsided with an idol. Reasons not higher: They all hated him anyways, and the whole ordeal could have been avoided if he wasn't sent to exile in the first place (but I'm so glad that this wasn't the case). 
23. After costing his tribe immunity, Chris forms the Fat Five alliance and takes control of his tribe. Quote: "The game's not outwit, outplay, outlast, outbalance." -Chris Daugherty I'm sure the girls were all shocked when they saw Chris walking into the episode two reward challenge after his disastrous attempt at a balance beam in the previous IC, losing it for his tribe. I was certainly surprised that he didn't get the boot. On a tribe full of nothing but testosterone, it seemed certain that the weakest link would go, meaning Chris. Or did it? Sarge and Chris had a conversation shortly after the younger guys and Sarge agreed that the weakest link would go, but Sarge claimed that Chris wouldn't be a weak link if he was an ally. Chris acted on this same principle. Talking to each of the older guys in Lopevi, he convinced them all that he would be a loyal ally and that Brook should be eliminated because he was lazy in camp and a potential threat in the future. Amazingly enough, it worked. Reasons not higher: Supposedly the Fat Five alliance was in the making anyways. Before the game even started, the young guys were trying to communicate with each other by passing notes, and Sarge called them all out on this on the first night...oops.
Oh, and here's a little clue for what's coming up... |
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kishuu |
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Posts: 1213 (02/20/09 11:52 PM) |
Natalie was OTTNN on the official edgic charts not OTTN, iirc.
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solesurvivor01 |
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Posts: 5315 (02/21/09 12:20 AM) Registered user |
I don't really care what she was. Personally, I think edgic is all a load of crap, and now I'll wait for Quid to come in here and explain why.
Point is, she became a psychotic bitch, and it was great to watch. |
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Jdawg1142 |
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Posts: 2 (02/21/09 8:46 AM) |
Um, why is Chris getting credit for that 5 person alliance? If I remember correctly he just sat there, then Sarge approached him saying that people want him
out, with the intention of forming the 5 person alliance.... Then Chris had an incredibly cocky confessional about how he was so much smarter than everyone
else when he didn't do jack shit in the episode besides fail to cross a balance beam.
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Mikester |
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Posts: 1262 (02/21/09 9:14 AM) |
Black Widows <33333
Parvati <33333 Cirie <33 Natalie <3 I'm sad that any of the amazing Black Widows' moves are lower than top 10, but that's probably because I'm bitter. Oh well, at least taking out Ozzy, convincing Erik to give up the idol, and blindsiding Alexis are still in the running. They better not be robbed. Edit: And yeah, the fat 5 alliance was Sarge's doing imo. Chris just happened to need the fat 5 to happen the most. |
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Pulau Tiga |
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Posts: 4856 (02/21/09 11:58 AM) Registered user |
Chris didn't do much to pull the Fat Five together. The young guys separated themselves from the group pre-game and for the first couple days of the game.
Sarge approached them to form an alliance, and they shot him down. So he found a new group of people to hook up with, and that gradually became the majority
alliance. Chris had good relationships with Chad and Bubba, but he didn't really pull together some big alliance just to save his ass.
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kenc333 |
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Posts: 7902 (02/21/09 1:43 PM) |
Black Widow Brigade <3 And I'm guessing that if the Jason blindside is on here already, the Ozzy blindside is even higher. My guess would be that the clue for the next entry would be something to do with Amanda, but then again, I don't think Amanda would show up on this list until at least the top 5. =D |
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