I think Stefan deserved the win, even though his over-confidence hurt in the last few weeks. Carla would be a close second, but her lack of confidence is her downfall. Hosehead is mediocre all of the time.
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I think Stefan deserved the win, even though his over-confidence hurt in the last few weeks. Carla would be a close second, but her lack of confidence is her downfall. Hosehead is mediocre all of the time. |
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azcanadienne wrote: I think your sports metaphor is faulty. In sports, as long as you don't get eliminated in the playoffs, you make the final game. If you make the final game and win that ONE game, it doesn't matter if the other team's record is better than yours. That's what happened here. And, in fact, I don't think the final threes records on the show were THAT dissimilar. Stefan and Carla had higher highs then Hosea, but they also had lower lows. He was pretty consistently in the top half or better, and I think he came in second almost as much as Jamie. It wasn't like last year when that sexygoddess Lisa should have been eliminated every one of the last six weeks, but she managed to squeak through and almost beat the two who were consistently the very best all the way through... And actually, it wasn't even a total fluke - I'd like to point out that Hosea felt it necessary to try and cripple Stefan in order to beat him. Sticking him with the alligator and taking all the foie gras and all the caviar, for no other reason than to prevent Stefan from getting it, does not exactly say "I am confident in my own abilities and know that my cooking can stand up against anybody's, no matter what" I'm confused. After all of the drama, did Stefan even use the foie gras he made Hosea give him? Did Hosea even use the SIX TINS of caviar he was hoarding? I just think they should have all been given the exact same pantry of ingredients. Having to waste time fighting over ingredients was totally stupid! |
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victalac wrote: I prefer real gras to the faux gras, myself. |
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BMH69 |
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stinkycheese wrote:Carla has a facebook!? And I GUESS for Carla I would consider not wishing Casey was dead for fucking everything up. |
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I loved Jeff's reaction when he knew the winner.
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OMG what a beautiful Facebook note from Carla. I adore her. ADORE her. Somebody please snatch her up for her own show. Even having lost, she is more
interesting and fun to watch than any winner they have ever had.
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Toby redeemed himself by fighting so hard for Stefan to be named Top Chef (although I didn't hate him this season like many of you and, other than his lame
one-liners, I actually agreed with his judging and comments):
Toby Young's Blog Entry: It is hard to watch last night's episode and not feel sorry for Carla. Her cooking got stronger and stronger as the season progressed and she looked poised to cause an upset. Her appetizer was delicious, her first course was even better, and, for a moment there, all the judges thought she was going to win. So what went wrong? Two words: Casey Thompson. OK, that's a bit harsh. It's more like Casey was sent to test Carla: Will she or won't she follow Casey's advice? And she failed. Not that Casey is a bad cook. It's just that her style is completely different from Carla's. Carla stated at the outset that what she wanted to do was give us her version of meat and potatoes - and if she had only done that she might have gone on to win Top Chef. But Carla listened to Casey when she told her she needed to make her meal more complicated, that her simple, down-home style wouldn't be good enough to win the competition. That was crazy, since it's precisely that style that had got Carla into the final, but for some reason - whether because she lacked confidence or because she was too nice to tell Casey to take a running jump - Carla abandoned her plan and went with Casey's. Result: Carla's second and third courses were a disaster. Eliminating Carla was the easy part. Deciding between Stefan and Hosea was fiendishly difficult. For the first time in Season 5, Tom and I were completely at loggerheads. We've disagreed before at Judges Table, but never like this. In tonight's episode, you get a glimpse of this when my voice suddenly goes all high - it's the moment when I'm defending Stefan's desert, but that scarcely conveys just how passionately we disagreed. It really was a bun fight. I asked Tom at the outset whether the same rule applied to judging the finale as it did to all the other challenges, namely, that we had to disregard everything the chefs had done before and judge them entirely on their performance that day. He said it did, but with one caveat: if we whittled the finalists down to two, and there was nothing to choose between them, we could bring in their past performances as a tie-breaker. As far as I was concerned, that was exactly the situation in last night's episode - and, for that reason, we ought to give it to Stefan, who clearly
performed better over the course of the season than Hosea. My argument went like this: Stefan and Hosea tied the appetizer and the first course; Stefan won the
second; and Hosea won the third. So that was one win each, deadlock.
Tom countered that Hosea's margin of victory in the third course was so much greater than Stefan's margin of victory in the second that there was no need to bring in past performances - Hosea was the clear winner. And, in the end, Gail and Padma took the same view. They all thought that Stefan's desert was a big letdown - that his vanilla ice cream, chocolate mouse, and banana lollipop was precisely the kind of non-descript trio that you'd get at a catered event. It was wedding food, basically, and you can't hope to win Top Chef by serving up something that is usually eaten under a marquee. I didn't hate Stefan's desert nearly as much as they did - it tasted pretty good to me, but, then again, I haven't been to as many American weddings as them. On the other hand, venison is a very trendy protein in the UK right now so I've certainly had my fill of that. And I thought it was disappointing of Hosea not to at least attempt to cook something sweet. As Hubert Keller pointed out, being a great chef involves mastering a broad range of skills, including how to make deserts, and for that reason he preferred Stefan's meal to Hosea's. But Tom made it plain that we couldn't penalize the chefs for serving three savory courses since that was perfectly within the rules - and while I tried to argue that acknowledging Stefan's range of skills would be rewarding him, rather than penalizing Hosea, that argument didn't cut much ice with the other judges. Bottom line: Hosea cooked a marginally better meal than Stefan on the night and for that reason he was declared the winner. Judging food is a very subjective business. There are a few basic parameters: There should be a mixture of textures on the plate, the bold flavours shouldn't overwhelm the subtle ones, every ingredient has to be cooked just so, but beyond these it is not at all clear-cut. Sometimes arbitrary factors come into play: Did I want Stefan to win because, like me, he's an obnoxious bald guy? - and you do your best to discount these. The fact is, neither Stefan nor Hosea made any obvious mistakes in the finale because they're both good chefs. Either one would have made a worthy winner, and I accept the majority verdict. I have no doubt that Stefan will milk his second-place finish for at least as much as Hosea will get out of his victory. Good luck to them both. |
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Carla's exit interview is up.
http://www.endlesssimmer....-up-and-contest-results/ Here's her take on Casey: Carla! What happened with Casey??? |
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CAPSattack wrote: MY THOUGHT EXACTLY!!! It IS "Top Pussy." |
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Bittter Carlatards needs to realize it's not Casey's fault. I never heard Padma mention you had to do what your Sou Chef said. Carla could have went on
and did her thang and that would have been that.
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swim4life227 |
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Bittter Carlatards needs to realize it's not Casey's fault. I never heard Padma mention you had to do what your Sou Chef said. Carla could have went on
and did her thang and that would have been that.
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If you haven't seen it yet, Stefan's Exit Interview: http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/videos/to-stefans-great-relief
Stefan is HILARIOUS and anyone can listen to him and tell he's not an asshole -- confident & cocky, yes, but he is genuinely a good guy. Fabio joins him at the end of the interview and things really get hilarious. They are talking about making the perfect woman out of the contestants this season. Really funny. I'd love watching a cooking show with both Fabio & Stefan. Team Euro!!! Also, Stefan's Q&A is a good read: http://www.bravotv.com/date-my-ex-jo-amp-slade/blogs/burning-questions A couple excerpts: Bravotv.com: Were you happy you got Marcel to help you? How much influence did he have on the meal? It was my meal and not Marcel's meal. I picked Marcel because I looked in Carla's eyes and she was freaked out if she would have been paired up with
Marcel. And let me tell you one thing, and that is to all the Marcel haters out here that he is maybe a little wierd sometimes but the guy can cook and I'm
happy I had him as a sous-chef. Thank you Marcel.
Bravotv.com: Do you actually like Hosea because sometimes you seem actually kind of playful.
I believe Stefan when he says he likes Hosebag. However, I think Hosebag has serious jealousy over Stefan and doesn't reciprocate the love. Also, in his video Stefan talks about calling Hosebag a doucheBOY. I like that name for Hosebag -- doucheBOY instead of douchebag.
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swim4life227 wrote:I think it starts with Carla, and she's not running Casey into the ditch.
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stinkycheese wrote:Thanks for posting. I'll miss seeing Carla, but it was great to have her make it all the way to the end. She was very entertaining and a genuine soul and I appreciated that. She said she wanted to compete in a different way and she did. She made mistakes but she did what she wanted. And got a car in the process. I'd say she was a winner even without the title. Same goes for Fabio & Stefan. Hosebag was a douche and hopefully we'll never hear from him again. |
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Reading Toby's blog confirms my beliefs, that it really needed further confirmation, that Tom basically decides who wins and its his way or no way. I think
if Toby had been around as a regular since the beginning, he would have had a stronger influence on the outcome, but since he's just the midseason
replacement he just kinda let the regulars run the show. Strange, I actually like Toby now. Although, I still find his first episode entirely rehearsed. He
probably spent days coming up with those weapons of mass destruction and cat food lines.
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veiledpresence wrote: I prefer Top Hosebag |
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I love Carla to bits and I'm glad she's not blaming Casey. In a fianal challenge you should do what got you there Carla didn't. She let Casey run
the show. That was Carla'a fault not Casey's. And I think I just got a tad of respect for Toby after reading his blog. Still though for the most part,
he's a fuckwit!
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Pencake |
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What an awful finale! I'd grade this season a D overall. (Although I'm tempted to give it a B- due to Marcel & Spike showing up)
D+! |
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Toby's blog is interesting and it's nice to see a different side of him, when he isn't being a stereotypical bitchy Brit judge. Of course, he's
a writer, right? So it's not surprising that he writes persuasively. And I think he called it in his first episode, where he said that Carla didn't
have enough confidence and he questioned whether she ever would. Still, I would probably invest in her restaurant before the other two.
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