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aslanscubs		#2381	[-]
Posts: 2078 (03/12/09 7:12 AM) MWV Champ and I get pecan pie! Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Just thinking out loud here....If the Dharma Losties see young Ben, they wouldn't have remembered him when they first saw him tied up in the hatch or wherever because it hadn't happened yet. Now, if young Ben sees the Dharma Losties, he might remember them later on or, like someone else said, he might not remember someone he saw so long ago.
Hostile6		#2382	[-]
Posts: 995 (03/12/09 7:31 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	aslanscubs wrote: Just thinking out loud here....If the Dharma Losties see young Ben, they wouldn't have remembered him when they first saw him tied up in the hatch or wherever because it hadn't happened yet. Now, if young Ben sees the Dharma Losties, he might remember them later on or, like someone else said, he might not remember someone he saw so long ago. The losties don't get new memories. There the time travelers, we're following their present. This is happening to them for the first time.
FeliciaM7		#2383	[-]
Posts: 6999 (03/12/09 7:36 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Just thinking out loud here....If the Dharma Losties see young Ben, they wouldn't have remembered him when they first saw him tied up in the hatch or wherever because it hadn't happened yet. I said that before and was shot down with what's happened happened. They'd remember his face and definitely his name later when they learn he's Ben Linus not Henry Gale. Or the other way around, I suggested that Ben had not met them yet but his present self (roaming somewhere around the island) would have a sudden memory of them from his past. That was shot down with the what's happened happened thing, too. stomps feet Why can't Ben have a sudden memory due to his past changing like Desmond did? Tired of hearing Desmond is special and that can't occur with anyone else. It does sound like Ben is being written around meeting the Dharma Losties though. eta - see. Shot down again. phantom - I'm not thinking Jin for the same reasons as the original poster. What's the point? He's already been presumed dead. Sun has been through mourning and thinking Ji Yeon would be raised without her father. He's not dead. Sun is back to find him. I think they'll finally hook up again later on and give us that much anticipated reunion. I can't see him getting killed "again" having much of an impact on the viewers after all that. Daniel - that would mess me up.
aslanscubs		#2384	[-]
Posts: 2079 (03/12/09 7:43 AM) MWV Champ and I get pecan pie! Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Hostile - That's what I said and thought. Good to know I was thinking correctly. Felicia - I think it makes more sense to look at it the way we are--it's the Losties present, etc. I'm not shootin' ya down. I agree with ya. ;o)
Angelone44		#2385	[-]
Posts: 611 (03/12/09 8:16 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	aslanscubs wrote: Felicia - I think it makes more sense to look at it the way we are--it's the Losties present, etc. I'm not shootin' ya down. I agree with ya. ;o) ...me too. Felicia, your explanation makes the most sense. The Losties are still traveling a straight line (mentally) so what's happening to them in 1974 (in their minds) happens AFTER 2004. I also think Ben can get new memories if something happens while he's a child but those memories would "pop in" to Ben's brain, 2007 so no continuity issues. Everything we are seeing is happening "at the same time" in everyone's brain...just not in linear time fashion. Crap. Nosebleed.
FeliciaM7		#2386	[-]
Posts: 7002 (03/12/09 8:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I also think Ben can get new memories if something happens while he's a child but those memories would "pop in" to Ben's brain, 2007 so no continuity issues But that one was shot down, too - Because he won't get new memories. He's not in a wonky timeline. If he had met them when he was a kid, then he has always known them. I agree that he should be able to suddenly remember them like Desmond remembering what Faraday told him, but that keeps getting thrown out with "Desmond is special. Ben isn't".
Angelone44		#2387	[-]
Posts: 612 (03/12/09 8:27 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FeliciaM7 wrote: I also think Ben can get new memories if something happens while he's a child but those memories would "pop in" to Ben's brain, 2007 so no continuity issues But that one was shot down, too - Because he won't get new memories. He's not in a wonky timeline. If he had met them when he was a kid, then he has always known them. I agree that he should be able to suddenly remember them like Desmond remembering what Faraday told him, but that keeps getting thrown out with "Desmond is special. Ben isn't". To quote you..."pfft". I think the writers can do whatever they want so nothing would surprise me. I could go into a big long explanation about why it's possible but my nose just stopped bleeding... :)
WiscBadger95		#2388	[-]
Posts: 13457 (03/12/09 9:13 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	ItsMeDeb wrote: Why can't it be Jack? There's spec that Jack's death is the final scene of the series. Literally a mirror image of the first scene. He's lying in the jungle and his eye closes.
Hostile6		#2389	[-]
Posts: 996 (03/12/09 10:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FeliciaM7 wrote: I also think Ben can get new memories if something happens while he's a child but those memories would "pop in" to Ben's brain, 2007 so no continuity issues But that one was shot down, too - Because he won't get new memories. He's not in a wonky timeline. If he had met them when he was a kid, then he has always known them. I agree that he should be able to suddenly remember them like Desmond remembering what Faraday told him, but that keeps getting thrown out with "Desmond is special. Ben isn't". Whoever is shooting that down is wrong. Charles Widmore had memories of Locke and he's no more special then Ben. Which is why young Ben said he didn't exactly work with the regulars. TPTB know what a fuck up of continuity it would be if he had. I think he might meet Juliet though, which is why he wants her on the island in 2001ish.
Screerider		#2390	[-]
Posts: 24007 (03/12/09 10:36 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Why not Juliet? She gets pregnant on the Island and dies.
FeliciaM7		#2391	[-]
Posts: 7003 (03/12/09 10:49 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	WiscBadger95 wrote: ItsMeDeb wrote: Why can't it be Jack? There's spec that Jack's death is the final scene of the series. Literally a mirror image of the first scene. He's lying in the jungle and his eye closes. My heart just broke! Not that I haven't felt he'd die the end of the series, but seeing that in text.. I need a pacifier or something. Waaahhhh.
colbyscowgirl		#2392	[-]
Posts: 726 (03/12/09 10:58 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Screerider wrote: Why not Juliet? She gets pregnant on the Island and dies. No way. I don't see Juliet or Sun being killed off. Now Kate or Jack on the other hand, I could certainly see that. Even Sayid, Desmond, Daniel or Miles.
Hostile6		#2393	[-]
Posts: 997 (03/12/09 11:05 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Screerider wrote: Why not Juliet? She gets pregnant on the Island and dies. Because it's not her, at least according to DarkUFO.
colbyscowgirl		#2394	[-]
Posts: 727 (03/12/09 11:07 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	WiscBadger95 wrote: ItsMeDeb wrote: Why can't it be Jack? There's spec that Jack's death is the final scene of the series. Literally a mirror image of the first scene. He's lying in the jungle and his eye closes. I can absolutely see this happening. Something inside me says that Jack bites it before the series ends.
Screerider		#2395	[-]
Posts: 24008 (03/12/09 11:08 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If he closes his eye, how can he be dead? As for Juliet, I was just going by what Kristen said... usually a big mistake.
colbyscowgirl		#2396	[-]
Posts: 728 (03/12/09 11:12 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Hostile6 wrote: Sawyer- Kinda interesting... A lot of people were worried about him after he killed the original Sawyer. Some guy on DarkUFO claims it is definitely him. However he has not backed up anything, excecpt with some retarded shit about the L.A. times. Interestingly enough, he mentioned Star Wars and Harrison Ford thinking Han Solo should die to add gravity to the story. Damon is a huge star wars fan and this could be his chance to do what should of been done. His character is so popular though... I just can't imagine ABC saying "Our ratings suck, so yeah, kill off one of the most popular characters..." Daniel- Charrlotte is dead, he's kinda crazy, he knows to much about time travel, and might make the show less "mysterious." He introduced us to time-travel and the rules, so what's left for him? Ben or Richard could easily fill his role. I'm going with one of these two. I don't think Ben is beloved and while Jin is, why kill him again, although that would be the least expected of all. I can actually see Sawyer dying to protect Juliet. Likewise, I can see Daniel, who's off the deep end, try to redeem anything he's done to lead up to the survivors' situation by sacrificing his life. I wouldn't mind seeing Miles or Ben go, but I just don't think it's this way.
colbyscowgirl		#2397	[-]
Posts: 728 (03/12/09 11:12 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Hostile6 wrote: Sawyer- Kinda interesting... A lot of people were worried about him after he killed the original Sawyer. Some guy on DarkUFO claims it is definitely him. However he has not backed up anything, excecpt with some retarded shit about the L.A. times. Interestingly enough, he mentioned Star Wars and Harrison Ford thinking Han Solo should die to add gravity to the story. Damon is a huge star wars fan and this could be his chance to do what should of been done. His character is so popular though... I just can't imagine ABC saying "Our ratings suck, so yeah, kill off one of the most popular characters..." Daniel- Charrlotte is dead, he's kinda crazy, he knows to much about time travel, and might make the show less "mysterious." He introduced us to time-travel and the rules, so what's left for him? Ben or Richard could easily fill his role. I'm going with one of these two. I don't think Ben is beloved and while Jin is, why kill him again, although that would be the least expected of all. I can actually see Sawyer dying to protect Juliet. Likewise, I can see Daniel, who's off the deep end, try to redeem anything he's done to lead up to the survivors' situation by sacrificing his life. I wouldn't mind seeing Miles or Ben go, but I just don't think it's this way.
Hostile6		#2398	[-]
Posts: 998 (03/12/09 11:29 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't agree that Ben isn't loved by many fans... People love him or love to hate him.
cindidindi76		#2399	[-]
Posts: 16072 (03/12/09 11:59 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Hostile6 wrote: FeliciaM7 wrote: I also think Ben can get new memories if something happens while he's a child but those memories would "pop in" to Ben's brain, 2007 so no continuity issues But that one was shot down, too - Because he won't get new memories. He's not in a wonky timeline. If he had met them when he was a kid, then he has always known them. I agree that he should be able to suddenly remember them like Desmond remembering what Faraday told him, but that keeps getting thrown out with "Desmond is special. Ben isn't". Whoever is shooting that down is wrong. Charles Widmore had memories of Locke and he's no more special then Ben. Which is why young Ben said he didn't exactly work with the regulars. TPTB know what a fuck up of continuity it would be if he had. I think he might meet Juliet though, which is why he wants her on the island in 2001ish. Why would that be a fuck up of continuity? Kids don't remember everyone they ever met for the rest of their lives!!! I sure as fuck don't remember every co-worker of my parents I got introduced to.
ItsMeDeb		#2400	[-]
Posts: 711 (03/12/09 1:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	WiscBadger95 wrote: ItsMeDeb wrote: Why can't it be Jack? There's spec that Jack's death is the final scene of the series. Literally a mirror image of the first scene. He's lying in the jungle and his eye closes. That would be cool; however, the spoiler says a major character dies at the end of Season 5. The series ends in Season 6, right? Felicia, I know you like Jack. Hell, we ALL know it, but please try to remain objective.

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