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MikiBoi wrote:

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We are all throwing around theories but time will only tell how any of them will fare. This year, there aren't many standouts in terms of overall packaging or marketing so it is tough to say. I guess we'll all have a better idea of the better Idol winner when it comes down to the F6-4 area.

Mine in order of who I think would do well winning overall (having "the package", mass media image etc..):

Matt G, Rounds (ugh), Adam (rock/pop edge)/Allison (Pink, Clarkson route), Kris (Archuleta/Mraz/Johnson route), Sarver (country).

It could all change, its still early days.

that sounds about right to me....

I'd love for Matt G to figure out where he's fit cuz he's one of my favorites this season. I'm also kind of diggin Allison, Kris and Adam.

Alexis could find some success as well, she's very marketable and with the right songs could do very well.....

dic wrote:

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There's no use arguing with EyesGreenWithEnvy. She'll do anything to put down Carrie's success and prop up Yelly's (who has had 1 hit in the past 3 years). Carrie is definitely mainstream. I hear BHC and JTTW all the time on mainstream pop. Hell, I turned the radio station on yesterday and I Told You So was being played.

well, it's not an argument it's a discussion.

I'm always amused when someone alludes to my jealous of Carrie (or Clay or Justin LOL) because it begs the question, exactly what am I jealous of? First of all, I have gain no financial benefit from any of these artists, I have no personal investment in their success or lack thereof, I'm not friends, family or even an aqaintance of these people. I follow the idols' careers like anyone else. Yes I have a favorite, but it seems everyone does, including you dic(head) and the simple truth is Carrie hasn't accomplished anything that Kelly hasn't also accomplished so, again, what is there to be jealous of, if I were stupid enough to be jealous over someone else's successes that is....

As for Kelly having 1 hit in three years I think your math was learned at the same school as RobbinAmber's. Kelly had a hit with Never Again in 2007 (#8 on Hot 100 and almost a million downloads is def a hit), she also had a hit with BOY on country radio that same year and now she has this latest hit with "suck." It seems it is YOU who try to discredit Kelly's success in order to make Carrie seem more mainstream than she is.

and this bullshit of you hearing JTTT or I Told you So on pop radio is laughable to say the least and just speaks to your own retardation in trying to make it seem like Carrie is this superstar in the pop world when the reality is she had ONE hit......meanwhile Taylor Swift is the real cross over country darling in the pop world but she's not from idol so no one wants to discuss her trampling of Carrie Underwood on this forum.

pjadedd wrote:

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I don't recall anyone here saying you were jealous. And, your bitching points started with my post. Never did I once say Carrie has done more than Kelly, is better, etc. I said the two of them have gotten the most mainstream play (of the winners). Daughtry is in that group, as is Jordin, Cook, and even Archuleta and Elliott (when he "Wait For You").

OMG do you even know how to read? LOL Dictator alluded to me being jealous by his usual "greeneyeswithenvy" name.

I wasn't even referring to OUR discussion except to say we weren't arguing, we were having a discussion.... again, not "bitching points" just stating the facts...Carrie has had ONE mainstream hit.... none of her other singles have been played on mainstream (ie POP) radio to an extent which would deem them cross-over hits.

Drew B wrote:

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Both Carrie and Kelly have become mainstream CELEBRITIES in a way that goes beyond their music. They are a major "get" for awards shows and publicity events and what they say and do becomes news. None of the other Idols have anything akin to this -- well, maybe Clay, but not in a particularly positive way.

This I would 100% agree with.

pja wrote:

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In your area. More people than just me have said that they've heard Carrie songs on pop stations.

actually, the only person I've seen other than you saying it is Dictator and he's a total carrietard... and I don't live in the sticks...I live in the Tampa Bay area so that's a pretty large market.....