3/18/09 Ep9 "Namaste"

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phantomkp		#201	[-]
Posts: 603 (03/20/09 5:29 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Good point. Another reason why i dont like my #1 option. I still stick with my #2 :) With twonyx's theory right behind as a darkhorse.
pussycow		#202	[-]
Posts: 4609 (03/20/09 8:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In order to help prevent a paradox, Sun is being prevented from going to a specific point in time on the island where her younger self is, so she doesnt interact with herself when she was never supposed to. Except that we already saw Sawyer and Locke et al. jump to a time in which they were still on the island...at one point they were just a few hundred yards from where younger Locke was screwing around with the hatch. The possibility of a paradox existed there, but the island did nothing to stop it. In addition, Jack, Sawyer, Sayid, and anyone else in that group who was born before 1977 has a younger counterpart somewhere on Earth. The possibility of a paradox exists there, too, should they decide to leave the island. I stopped reading the other thread so I dunno if you and Scree have sorted out whether those paradoxes can actually occur, but it certainly didn't prevent the island from burping out 27-and-overs into a timeframe where they already existed. I posed the same theory earlier in the thread about Ben and Sun not going to 77 cos they are already there. The difference I see between Sawyer, Locke, et al skipping is that the donkey wheel was broken at the time which was causing the skipping. I don't think the island was really "in charge" at that time, it was broken. When Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid were taken from 316 I see that as the island choo choo choosing them to go back to 77. In essence the island is thinking "Ok, I already have Ben and Sun in 77, I need Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid." So it isn't really an issue of two of the same person existing in the same time, it's an issue of the island just taking what it needs. I don't think it is likely at all that this is the case, I just think it's an interesting theory. Just checking Lostpedia, it looks like in some of the ARGs and off season games it was revealed that Paik industries built a boat for The Hanso Group. He was also involved with Widmore. So what if Sun's dad did travel to the island at some time? Maybe it's not as far-fetched after all. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Paik_Heavy_Industries Last Edited By: pussycow 03/20/09 8:07 AM. Edited 1 times.
WiscBadger95		#203	[-]
Posts: 13565 (03/20/09 8:25 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Antithesys wrote: Plus I think the welcoming station that was all decrepit in 2007/2008 was that way because of the Freighter attack that happened towards the end of S4 when Widdy's gang stormed the place trying to get Ben out and Smokey tore through it. My point was not that it was decrepit, but that it still contained all the stuff it had in 1977...rusted signs hanging loosely from the ceiling, tables and cots stacked up and rotting in the corner, etc. Of course, it's possible the Others were using that building as part of their Dharma front, and the decay we saw was from just three years of disuse, not thirty. I'll accept the explanation that it could be a building near the dock and unimportant to the Others, but if they were still bringing people in on the sub then you'd think that building might come in handy. Something was changed in the past. The following is from DarkUFO ... Whatever Happened, Happened... Sort of Now would be a great time for the vehement "nothing that already happened can be changed!" movement to explain why the original Dharma radio transmission is playing on the co-pilot's radio as he attempts his mayday call. Especially since Rousseau had changed the message in the mid-80's and had actually turned the message off about two seasons ago. Following the one time string theory, hearing that message in 2007 would be an impossibility. Things I Noticed - "Namaste" by Vozzek69
Arec49		#204	[-]
Posts: 14 (03/20/09 9:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	That lady in the background looks more like Hurley or a member of the filming crew. Well it seems like the identity of the mystery figure is intentionally skewed. I also noticed while rewatching it that it is rather deliberate when the door cracks open as if someone is entering the room, it is RATHER DELIBERATE that a thin puff of smoke enters the room after seemingly cracking the door open. And make no mistake about it people...a scene like this is one that the producers knew would be coming under intense scrutiny merely due to the histrionic aspects of the set. That being said, this girl was not there on accident, and the appearance of the puff of smoke opening the door before hand was no accident either. They deliberatly made it seem like a puff of smoke opened the door and then materialized into a person. Rewatching it shows an almost identical angle where the person wasn't there and then in the next shot was there.
WiscBadger95		#205	[-]
Posts: 13572 (03/20/09 9:49 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Speaking of the Mystery Lady, DarkUFO and The ODI has a nice screencap ... Mystery Lady Screencap
Arec49		#206	[-]
Posts: 16 (03/20/09 9:53 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Almost looks like Horace
pleasepassthepork		#207	[-]
Posts: 419 (03/20/09 10:22 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think it's Claire.
Antithesys		#208	[-]
Posts: 24083 (03/20/09 10:37 AM) Gadabout Reply Quote More Recent Posts	... Wow. You know, I heard the number transmission and thought, nice touch, and let it go. I never for a moment thought they weren't even supposed to be transmitting. As for the mystery woman, there's still the possibility that it's a crew member who was caught in the shot. If this is true, Darlton will say so. Otherwise it's Claire.
pussycow		#209	[-]
Posts: 4611 (03/20/09 10:49 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It's Christian Bale in a wig
aslanscubs		#210	[-]
Posts: 2097 (03/20/09 11:04 AM) MWV Champ and I get pecan pie! Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It almost looks like the woman in the painting in Ben's house.
twonyx		#211	[-]
Posts: 43 (03/20/09 12:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	WiscBadger95 wrote: Antithesys wrote: Plus I think the welcoming station that was all decrepit in 2007/2008 was that way because of the Freighter attack that happened towards the end of S4 when Widdy's gang stormed the place trying to get Ben out and Smokey tore through it. My point was not that it was decrepit, but that it still contained all the stuff it had in 1977...rusted signs hanging loosely from the ceiling, tables and cots stacked up and rotting in the corner, etc. Of course, it's possible the Others were using that building as part of their Dharma front, and the decay we saw was from just three years of disuse, not thirty. I'll accept the explanation that it could be a building near the dock and unimportant to the Others, but if they were still bringing people in on the sub then you'd think that building might come in handy. Something was changed in the past. The following is from DarkUFO ... Whatever Happened, Happened... Sort of Now would be a great time for the vehement "nothing that already happened can be changed!" movement to explain why the original Dharma radio transmission is playing on the co-pilot's radio as he attempts his mayday call. Especially since Rousseau had changed the message in the mid-80's and had actually turned the message off about two seasons ago. Following the one time string theory, hearing that message in 2007 would be an impossibility. Things I Noticed - "Namaste" by Vozzek69 When I first read this, I thought maybe the plane wasn't in the present time but somewhere between '77 and Danielle changing message. But, then I remembered the "30 years earlier" posted on the screen. So, I guess the past can change the future.
Screerider		#212	[-]
Posts: 24071 (03/20/09 2:21 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	And back in season 1, Hurley was listening to a big band radio station in 2004. Impossible! I mean, the past changed!
colbyscowgirl		#213	[-]
Posts: 730 (03/20/09 2:52 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Either Claire or Olivia. Confirms to me that Claire & Christian are both, indeed, dead and that the smoke monster can take on the appearance of dead people. No coincidence that the smoke monster showed up first when Sun and Frank got off of the boat . . .
pumpkinpie24		#214	[-]
Posts: 39 (03/20/09 3:26 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	WiscBadger95 wrote: Speaking of the Mystery Lady, DarkUFO and The ODI has a nice screencap ... Mystery Lady Screencap It looks like Charlotte to me! I don't know how or why it would be, but that was my gut reaction.
cindidindi76		#215	[-]
Posts: 16338 (03/20/09 3:27 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The smoke monster showed up? I don't remember seeing that. I saw some bushes move, but that could have been any number of things. To me, Mystery Woman looks way too big to be Claire, or Olivia. They're both pretty petite, and MW looks....less than petite.
PoChop		#216	[-]
Posts: 1931 (03/20/09 3:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Is it possible that the plane didn't land in the present time? What if the plane landed after the Others took out Dharma but before 815 crashed? Just because Ben had his folks clearing the runway doesn't mean it wasn't in better shape in the past. In fact you'd think there might have been a runway during the time of the original Dharma construction activities. Of course this brings about a problem as to why the plane wasn't around in the future when Jack, Kate, and Sawyer were on the small island. But presumably the plane could still be flown as it didn't completely fall apart. So will we see some set of people actually escape from the island in a later episode using that plane? Or could this be the plane that was the fake plant of the flight 815 crash that was found in deep water? Could you imagine a scenario where Ben put some dead bodies into the plane, changed the airplane logos, caused the island to move without taking the plane along, leaving the plane that faked the 815 crash to slowly sink into the deep briny depths where it was finally found? I'm thinking that if the windshield of the faked 815 crash was broken in the same way as the Ajira plane windshield that would tell us something. Last Edited By: PoChop 03/20/09 3:34 PM. Edited 1 times.
twonyx		#217	[-]
Posts: 44 (03/20/09 3:52 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I thought that too PoChop, but then I remembered that the French woman's message was playing for 17 years and the screen said 30 years earlier and then showed 1977. So, the plane HAS to be in 2007 or so.
pussycow		#218	[-]
Posts: 4615 (03/20/09 4:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	cindidindi76 wrote: The smoke monster showed up? I don't remember seeing that. I saw some bushes move, but that could have been any number of things. But there was also the smoke monster sound. Not the howling but the clicking sound it makes
cindidindi76		#219	[-]
Posts: 16343 (03/20/09 4:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I didn't hear that. Apparently my senses were not at 100% Wednesday night.
Kirblar		#220	[-]
Posts: 7732 (03/20/09 4:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	There was smoke blowing behind the door when it blew open.

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3/18/09 Ep9 "Namaste"