Am I rambling? No...see: BBAU.

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reggierules |
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Beginning of the end, if that's the case. But the argument is: is the end inevitable or a product of the change?
Am I rambling? No...see: BBAU. |
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aaronin08 |
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reggierules wrote:The end is inevitable.. The last BBUK series is next year.... |
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JasonSiskaLulz |
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if retooling bbuk means bringing in characters like bianca, brig, and terri for the final seasons, i'm all for it
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reggierules |
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Sigh. BB AU last year was so epic. Even if they had to rig it for a proper outcome. Totally don't care.
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Redmond |
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BBUK could definitely make a gameplay theme work, they could use a format similar to BB Brasil. Have the HoH choose one nominee and then the rest of the house
nominate in the DR as normal and whichever housemate(s) have the most nominations go on the block with the HoH's choice. Then all they have to do is allow
nomination discussion and you immediately get a different type of show and hopefully create some interest in Big Brother again, because nobody cares about it
in the UK anymore.
They obviously wanted to add some gameplay elements in BB9 but didn't have the balls to go all out with it, so instead created these half-assed attempts like the HoH, that didn't really have any power other than leading tasks and the Nominations Pod which was used for one week only! After BB8 my love for BBUK started dwindling but I still held hope that they could bring it back to form with BB9, they promised so much, different types of housemates and format changes, but again it was a series that showed promise at the start but quickly became awful, boring shite. I have no hopes for BB10 now and if it doesn't deliver in the first couple of weeks I won't be sticking with it. |
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JasonSiskaLulz |
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bleh, i just feel like 13 weeks of nomination discussion would be sooo dreary
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reggierules |
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I have no hopes for BB10 now and if it doesn't deliver in the first couple of weeks I won't be sticking with it.But then we'd miss such wonderful insight like: "Then all they have to do is allow nomination discussion." ... |
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Redmond |
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reggierules wrote:That is all they have to do to make the show a bit more interesting though. Thing is, I'm from the UK...BBUK is the series I grew up with and have watched from the start and year after year it gradually gets worse. That is why the BBUS format still feels fresh to me, yes that show could do with format changes too, but overall I find BBUS much more compelling and engaging than anything BBUK has done for a long time now. Maybe I'd feel different if it was the other way around and I'd lived in the US and grew up with BBUS, maybe then I'd be bored of that series and find BBUK to feel fresh. But from my point of view and many others in the UK judging by the ratings, the show is just not interesting anymore and needs a kick up the arse. There's a reason The Apprentice can get 10million viewers and Big Brother 9 was barely reaching 3mil. |
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dissimilis |
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Don't touch the basic format of BBUK...if people are getting bored with it, thats fine. Let it die after the last 2 seasons, but dont completely bastardize
the show.
If you want strategy talk 24/7 (because once you allow it, thats all you are going to get past the first week) then you should just watch BBUS, and those of us who want to watch a show without it can watch BBUK. I still think it comes down to casting first and foremost, if you get the right mix I'd bet anything the ratings would shoot right back up, but finding that right mix is really hard. They havent been able to successfully do it since BB6 IMO. But as long as they keep the cast small and dont add a bunch of intruders (2 or 3 at the most and within the first 4 weeks; late season intruders are the worst) I'm happy and if that causes the show to end, so be it. |
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Redmond |
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I'm not even sure if a semi-decent cast could help it now. The producers and show as a whole has created a lot of ill-will as of a late.
It is easy to pin-point the downfall: -CBB5 - Putting Jade Goody and her family in the house was never going to be a good move, I don't know any fan that wanted to see that happen but they went ahead and did. Let's not forget Jade was part of the same management team as Davina and co, so it would make lots of nice cash for them if it went well...but it went completely tits up. CBB5's ratings were decreasing until the racism row, which went totally out of control and although it increased the ratings for that series, at what cost? Because Big Brother has always been seen as trashy, but harmless, but after CBB5 it was now trashy and evil and should be "removed from our television screens". It put many people off. -BB8 - So the team had some work to do, make people forget about CBB5, give them a fun, upbeat, enjoyable series for the summer. Phil Edgar-Jones the executive producer actually said that the theme of BB8 is "fun". Their first mistake was having the All Female launch night twist, it lost a big chunk of its audience after the first night. They somehow forgot that the majority of their audience are female and they have no real interest in watching a bunch of other females on TV. They then drip-fed in male housemates week after week, it was an endless onslaught of new, hopeless wannabes all vying for camera time. This series had the worst tasks and worst twists, fake eviction which changed absoloutely nothing of the house dynamics, the most tedious giving away of £100,000 ever on television and THE worst twist in the history of Big Brother...the Half-Way House, where the rules were constantly being changed until the producers got the right combination of housemates up for eviction. Add on top of this Charley and Carole, two of the most detestable housemates of all time. The rest of the cast was a total non-event. -Celebrity Hijack - Personally I really enjoyed this series, the housemates were different, not so wannabe-ish and the tasks were great. Amy, Emilia and Jeremy were three of the best housemates of all time. But stupidly they decided to restrict this series to E4 only where it died away and nobody noticed it and it was considered a failure. -BB9 - Okay, CBB5 was a while ago now, maybe last year was just a glitch, time to get things back on track eh? We were promised unique, diverse housemates and a more competitive format. What we got was more ignorant bullies (Alexandra, Dennis) and thousands more Ofcom complaints rendering the series dead after the first week. BB9 wasn't one of the worst series, it had some decent housemates such as Rex, Mario, Darnell, Lisa etc but again the tasks were seriously lacking and the twists didn't work. The HoH and Noms Pod were half-assed and not thought through properly. The ratings were decreasing week by week and the housemates disappeared quicker than ever after the series finished. -CBB6 - 2009, Celebrity Big Brother was back, this should have been the show to draw the fans back. The line-up was semi-decent, Verne, Coolio, Ulrika, LaToya and the first week was quite fun. But it had that same problem every series has had since the latter half of BB7, it quickly becomes stale and boring, the housemates run out of things to do and talk about and so do the producers and so do the fans. CBB6 had the worst ratings ever, some nights barely reaching 1.5million. That does not bode well for the future of Big Brother. BB10 is the anniversary of BBUK, it is the perfect time to give a boost to the franchise and unfortunate as it is, Jade Goody's death, will have put peoples minds back on Big Brother. Maybe this is the year they can find a great cast and really buck their ideas up in the tasks department and hopefully add in some new, exciting format twists. I'd love nothing more than for the ratings to shoot back up to 4/5mil and have people talking about the show again and it may even get renewed if it does well. But I just don't see it, I have tried to have faith in these guys to turn it around for the past however many series and each time they fail. But I'd rather see them try something new to save the show, than just let it rot away in to the gutter. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to vent.
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04/21/09 02:17 PM.
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dissimilis |
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I personally thought that Hijack and BB9 were SIGNIFICANT bounce backs for the show after BB8. Hijack was a lot of fun and had great housemates, as you said.
BB9 had a lot of really good cast members...of course they had some cast members who were worthy of some serious hatred, but it was rare that I was ever bored
by the season.
My only issue was that the tasks were AWFUL. How many more "instructional DVD" tasks could we possibly have? But my main point is I dont care if nobody is watching the show, let it die its natural death after the next two seasons, just dont change the format. I still really enjoy this format for the most part. If people want to watch 24/7 strategizing they are more than able to watch BBUS. |
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reggierules |
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BB9 was one of my favorite seasons ever. But, I understand that I'm not the sole judge of BBUK success.
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ptcruisn56 |
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I'm all for long drawn out tasks. I hate the two day dvd tasks. I hate the lame divide everyone up into groups of 2 or 3 and then let them all do separate
things. My favorite ones were always the ones that lasted several days, over night, and there was usually a secret.
The instructional DVD or the learn how to ice skate seems like a daily task. The tasks and save or break a week in my opinion. |
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Art NL |
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dissimilis wrote:I agree, Hijack and BB9 were great seasons for me. I don´t think "strategy" can save this season. It might work in BBUS, but that show is so different. Only three shows per week of which 50% is the same stuff you see in every third episode. For BBUK, the novelty has worn off, imo. It's been nine years since the first Big Brother. How many shows make it through ten seasons and still draw in great ratings? |
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Redmond |
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I'm not saying all out BBUS style would work. But I think a combination of both could work, like the BB Brasil format and that is the most popular Big
Brother series in the world right? In terms of the ratings it gets?
So have the HoH nominate one person and then the rest of the housemates nominate as normal and whoever receives the most nominations joins the HoH's nominee on the block. A more competitive show is the main request the producers have been getting from fans in the UK. So if they could add an element of that but still maintain the human observation part that'd be great. Also another reason why I and many others want the format change is because they have scrapped 24/7 live feed, so the original premise doesn't even exist anyway, the whole idea was about being able to watch these people whenever you wanted at any time of day. Now it's just biased highlights with the producers faves been shoved down our throats. So I think that goes a long way in people wanting something different. |
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mocha frappuccino |
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My BIGGEST problem with recent seasons - and I've always been very vocal about it in the past - is the fact that
every other week they seem to send in new ppl into the house...
If you're gonna throw in intruders, at least keep it to a minimum like BB5 or BB6... Everything turned shotty starting with BB7 with like 8< HMs coming in throughout the season Start with 12-14 HMs and STICK TO THAT! Only replace them if someone walks out or is expelled or something! And shorten up the series! I love and get excited for BBUK as much as the next guy but starting BB7 I've never actually FINISHED a season... I always lose interest when it gets to like top 7-8 |
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CAPSattack |
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Posts: 1861 (04/22/09 09:17 PM) |
the things they need to do to revive bbuk:
Keep the head of house but either have everyone compete for it, or secretly give hoh to one person(especially if someone is jealous of another person, it will cause massive fights) . allow some strategy to come into the show. how about a battle of the sexes divide? make sure all the women are safe the first week cause im tired of seeing a woman leave first every season. dont do a top 6 finale, make it a top 3. no sob stories, or implied stories like mike being blind. |
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reggierules |
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SIGH...
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Redmond |
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mocha frappuccino wrote:Totally agree. Like I was saying, BB8 was the worst for it, with the introduction of a new male housemate almost every week and then the awful Half-Way House. I don't mind one or two new housemates, but they should be brought in within the first three weeks, any later than that is too far in to the show and unfair on the original housemates. And yes, the show should be 10/11 weeks maximum, its those last couple of weeks that just drag and drag. |
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dissimilis |
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I really didnt think BB9 was too bad with the intruders...Sara. Belinda Belinda Belinda and Maysoon (I'm shocked I remember her name!) were all in the
house by the end of the 4th week, which was early enough to get us to know them. The Nicole thing was eh, they tried to create drama at the end of the series
and fuck Rex's chances of winning and it worked, but they still didnt get that Mikey win
I'd not be upset if they did the exact same thing with intruders this season, add 2 or 3 in at the end of week 4 and thats it. If they just have some good tasks and dont put anyone like Luke, Mikey or Alex in there we will be fine. |
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