Who Ruined Each Season?

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chapera rocks		#281	[-]
Posts: 10900 (05/01/09 12:42 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	craig wrote: IF Amanda makes F2 in that scenario, many female jurors see her as spitefully selling out the girls because they booted her boyfriend. She'd be Twila 2.0. Probably Erik wins. That the most likely outcome in most "stop BWB" scenarios. There's also a shot that some of the BWB pull the guys back over to their side. They could be pretty persuasive. Hypothetically speaking, Eliza, Ozzy are jurors. Parvati/Cirie/Natalie/Alexis follow. James is evacuated. Erik/Jason -- one of them is a juror. Ozzy and James vote for Amanda. Parvati and Cirie could potentially vote for Amanda if they're not bitter. Erik/Jason - Both greatful to Amanda for keeping them in the game. Amanda is the power player who controlled the game, instead of taking a back seat to Cirie and Parvati. The problem would be getting a majority due to James' evacuation, but his evacuation was shocking to most. Plus Jason would have the idol.
Thailandsurvivor		#282	[-]
Posts: 6546 (05/01/09 12:56 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JackSparrowBauer wrote: All of the fans just got really bad edits, plain and simple. The ones that didn't get bad edits didn't last long. If they got more screentime, then I would have a more fair opinion of them. X Tracy - best edit of an older lady who didn't make the merge ever (or 2nd to S11 Amiy. That's why she was invisible in episodes 2 and 3? Kathy & Jason - plenty of airtime, and could have been way more negative. Kathy is the only one with plenty of air time. Jason pre swap was invisible except for when he was bashing the older people (which was like 5 seconds of air time.) Post swap, he had more, but it still wasn't much at all. Erik - well-developed charcter (except pre-switch were he was just a follower) Post swap he was edited as a complete follower, too. It wasn't until after Ozzy left where he came out of his shell (although I had liked him post swap). Natalie - 2 episodes made her a legendary character. The way she came out of nowhere was cool. Her having 2 (and a 1/3 in the finale) decent episodes is not a great character. It was semi cool by how unexpected it was, but it was ridiculous. She had the single worst edit of all time, and she wasn't allowed to speak for almost every episode until the final 8. Considering (a) that none of them made F3 and (b) that 3/4 who made merge barely went to TC premerge, that's pretty good. Uh, you are saying half of a tribe being decently edited is pretty good? Wow. I wouldn't even give you have the tribe, but some people have some damn low standards. ncassaro wrote: If Erik is in F2 though, that means Cirie, Eliza, James, Ozzy, and Parv are all on the jury. The faves would not vote for a fan if a favorite was an option. Amanda wins, and she probably gets Alexis, Jason, and Natalie's votes too for a 8-0 sweep. If Erik was in the final two, he would murder everyone who made the merge other than maybe Ozzy, but he had no chance to make it anyways. The faves would not vote for a fan? First talk to Eliza. She was rooting for them.
craig		#283	[-]
Posts: 15568 (05/01/09 1:06 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If Erik is in F2 though, that means Cirie, Eliza, James, Ozzy, and Parv are all on the jury. The faves would not vote for a fan if a favorite was an option. Traitors who betray their whole alliance never win - see Twila and Steph (or Nicole and Danielle from BB). And if their was any doubt concerning Amanda's goathood, why wouldn't Jason and Erik team up for F2? Someone can have a good edit with a couple or deeply UTR episodes. If Tracy did, so did the F2. If you're the star of 2-3 episodes you can be a great character. And someone like S17 Matty can have a run of MOR3\MOR4 episodes and be a crappy character.
GnarlsInCharge		#284	[-]
Posts: 3498 (05/01/09 1:12 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Thailandsurvivor wrote: If Erik was in the final two, he would murder everyone who made the merge other than maybe Ozzy, but he had no chance to make it anyways. All he has to do to make it to the end was NOT GIVE UP FREAKING IMMUNITY. He was guranteed F4 if he does that and the F4 challenge he could have beaten any of the chicks. His chance at winning the game would have all come down to that card stackish thing at F3.
Thailandsurvivor		#285	[-]
Posts: 6548 (05/01/09 1:22 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I meant Ozzy had no chance to make the end anyways. If Natalie couldn't pull off her amazing move at the final 5, I would have been extremely satisfied with Erik kicking the favorites' asses like he should have.
chapera rocks		#286	[-]
Posts: 10902 (05/01/09 1:51 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Correction: Natalie and Cirie.
JackSparrowBauer		#287	[-]
Posts: 936 (05/01/09 9:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I remember watching the Final 8 episode of Micronesia for the first time, I remember asking myself where did Natalie come from and why didn't we see any of her before that? It was ridiculous that she only had 2 confessionals in the first 9/10 episodes. She deserved more airtime <3
XtremeInnovator420		#288	[-]
Posts: 1445 (05/01/09 10:14 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think with Natalie someone mentioned that "her edit matched her strategy" in that she planned to fly really under the radar at the beginning until the merge where she'd turn "the bitch" on, and I personally think that could well be a nice explanation.
Thailandsurvivor		#289	[-]
Posts: 6556 (05/01/09 10:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Correction: Natalie and Cirie. Natalie could not have done it without Cirie, but most of the credit goes to Natalie. She initiated it, and Erik trusted her (just like Jason once did). XtremeInnovator420 wrote: I think with Natalie someone mentioned that "her edit matched her strategy" in that she planned to fly really under the radar at the beginning until the merge where she'd turn "the bitch" on, and I personally think that could well be a nice explanation. Then why couldn't they show the epic transformation?
chapera rocks		#290	[-]
Posts: 10906 (05/01/09 10:55 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Natalie could not have done it without Cirie, but most of the credit goes to Natalie. She initiated it, and Erik trusted her (just like Jason once did). Cirie thought of the idea. Natalie talked to Erik first, but Cirie talked right after and had to make sure that Erik believed everything she supposedly discussed with Natalie. That's about as even as you can get.
survivorisdabest		#291	[-]
Posts: 2919 (05/02/09 1:56 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	^No it isn't, you're both being biased against amanda Chapera should have said "Correction: Natalie and Cirie and Amanda (and Parv too)" 1-Amanda broke up Nat/Erik's alliance in the first place at F5 by getting erik to send parv to exile and take amanda on reward. 2-Cirie played with Nat's head back at camp while Amanda played with Erik's head on reward. 3-Cirie and AMANDA come up with the whole taking immunity idea. Parv says "If he didnt have immunity then he would be gone". Cirie says "I wonder if he would give immunity to nat". Amanda comes up with the whole redemption angle, which is how they managed to get it off him. 4-Natalie brilliantly carries it out 5.Cirie prompts erik at TC and Amanda/Parv help push him into it by blasting him (which was cirie's idea). Therefore, it was a case of Cirie/Amanda/Nat/Parv ownage. Stop trying to not give credit to some people just cause you dont like them kthx
chapera rocks		#292	[-]
Posts: 10926 (05/02/09 10:59 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	survivorisdabest wrote: ^No it isn't, you're both being biased against amanda Chapera should have said "Correction: Natalie and Cirie and Amanda (and Parv too)" 1-Amanda broke up Nat/Erik's alliance in the first place at F5 by getting erik to send parv to exile and take amanda on reward. 2-Cirie played with Nat's head back at camp while Amanda played with Erik's head on reward. 3-Cirie and AMANDA come up with the whole taking immunity idea. Parv says "If he didnt have immunity then he would be gone". Cirie says "I wonder if he would give immunity to nat". Amanda comes up with the whole redemption angle, which is how they managed to get it off him. 4-Natalie brilliantly carries it out 5.Cirie prompts erik at TC and Amanda/Parv help push him into it by blasting him (which was cirie's idea). Therefore, it was a case of Cirie/Amanda/Nat/Parv ownage. Stop trying to not give credit to some people just cause you dont like them kthx Before you go and spout off, get your facts straight. I like Cirie, Amanda, and Parvati. I don't like Natalie, she's just meh. And sorry, Cirie and Natalie did 90% of the work in convincing him. That's not to say Amanda and Parvati didn't do a good job to push him over the edge at TC. And your first two points have nothing to do with this given that they had nothing to do with the plot to make him give up immunity. They didn't consciously know what they were doing would help them to make Erik give up immunity.
craig		#293	[-]
Posts: 15576 (05/02/09 6:55 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	1-Amanda broke up Nat/Erik's alliance in the first place at F5 by getting erik to send parv to exile and take amanda on reward. That was a hugely brilliant move in it's own right. Only Amanda prevented Natalie from controlling Erik that episode, in which case the fans probably get an idol and are both safe. Or at least, Erik doesn't have his guilt meltdown from the girls pulling him in different directions. What happened was Amanda made him feel like shit for voting for her, then Natalie made him feel like shit for screwing her at the reward. Cirie provided expert coaching. Parvati's key contribution was the previous episode, when she talked Amanda into keeping Natalie over an injured Alexis. That Girl was a bigger threat to work smartly with Erik, and probably didn't have it in her to talk him out of immunity.
survivorisdabest		#294	[-]
Posts: 2925 (05/02/09 9:08 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	^exactly craig the discussion isn't just about taking immunity from erik, thaisu was talking about stopping erik from getting past F5 and the bottom line is that without amanda that would have been impossible because she SET UP erik so that he was in a position where he was alone and people were annoyed at him so that the immunity necklace taking could even happen. All 4 girls played a part in it and all deserve credit. anyways, about Natalie i agree with what Xtreme said: I think with Natalie someone mentioned that "her edit matched her strategy" in that she planned to fly really under the radar at the beginning until the merge where she'd turn "the bitch" on, and I personally think that could well be a nice explanation.
naturzen		#295	[-]
Posts: 22 (05/03/09 7:01 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Why wasn't this thread created before?? Pearl Islands-Tijuana, she just had an annoying personality Palau- Everyone, what an irritable bunch of people and whiners, I especially hated Tom! Guatemala-no one in particular Exile Island- Terry, what a douche know it all! Cook Islands- The entire Manihiki tribe just sucked but Sekou in particular. Fiji- Lisi and Stacy were just annoying to watch, especially Lisi who probably wasn't allowed to bring her Meds. China-No one in particular though I hated Dave for being a pain in the ass Micronesia- I think everyone agrees that those Fans just killed a season which was supposed to be magnificent! I blame Joel! Gabon-Sugar, as uninteresting as one can possible get. Last Edited By: naturzen 05/03/09 7:05 AM. Edited 1 times.
alnusrubra		#296	[-]
Posts: 23 (05/03/09 9:53 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Lex ruined A.S.S. Hatch, Colby, Ethan, and Lex was the freakin' dream team!
XtremeInnovator420		#297	[-]
Posts: 1446 (05/03/09 10:38 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The main problem I have with Micronesia is actually the injury bits that happened regarding it. Like...if Bonaduce didn't break Fairplay's face, and James/Jonathan didn't get medivaced, I think the season would've been a good bit better than it was, and this is coming from someone who actually liked the season a good deal. Fiji was kind of well, ruined by a lot of things, and yes, I can't stress enough how much Sugar ruined Gabon.
JackSparrowBauer		#298	[-]
Posts: 969 (05/06/09 8:49 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I can't stand Micronesia Amanda, but her manipulation of Erik at F5 was brilliant. She played it perfectly, and without her, it probably wouldn't have been possible. Cirie/Parv/Natalie all played it perfectly, too, but Amanda played Erik the most.
colleenlover		#299	[-]
Posts: 9226 (05/06/09 8:59 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	wow, I'm definitely in the minority regarding Sugar. I thought she made it (intentionally or unintentionally) the best season in years. How many times can you watch the same old boring number problems and strategy? Sugar was like watching a ticking time bomb.
CSCin3D		#300	[-]
Posts: 11909 (05/06/09 9:02 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Agreed. I hate Jessicunt as a human being, but she definitely made it worth watching.

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