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glasscup |
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Jacob has been on the island since 1955, ..
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FeliciaM7 |
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I'm thinking they're shown being flashed by the blast, and Alpert assumes they died, but maybe it just shunts them back to 2008.I hope so. I can't be the only one tired of Dharma and the Losties being stuck in the 70s. |
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Hostile6 |
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FeliciaM7 wrote:I'm with you... Going back in time sounded like a great idea at first (obviously the writers thought so too)... And it was because they were flashing through all sorts of weird scenarios throughout time, but it's gotten stale once they landed in 77. I really don't care about Dharma in any way (besides the purge and we won't even see how it was executed, so it's wasted). Whats really even happened since we got to 77? Juliet cut Sawyers balls off, Sawyer and co. became sheriffs, Ethan was born (what a shitty reveal), Horace got drunk and blew up trees, Jack/Kate/Sawyer dynamic, Jake/Sawyer square off, Kate trying to replace Jack/Sawyer with Roger Linus, and Hurley writing empire strikes back... It's been a bust IMO. Ben getting shot and the convo about what will happen to him was the only interesting aspect I can think of. The only thing holding this season together was the very cool first 7-8 episodes and the 2007 losties. |
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cindidindi76 |
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That about sums it up. So glad others are on board with the whole "meh on 1977" thing.
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studentnurse2003 |
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i don't know who said it, but I'm thinking that when Jughead goes off, everything is set to rights, and we'll see people in their 2007/8 lifetime.
Jack doing his thing, Sawyer conning people. It we're to be left wondering how they're going to do a 6th season, then I'd say that that would be a
good way. WTF can they possibly do in the last season if the plane never crashed?
Too, the beginning of the season showed how all the Losties had connections in their lives before they crashed. Maybe the last season is all interconnections? We see Jack get conned by Sawyer, we see Juliet deliver Rose's baby.... |
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FeliciaM7 |
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Michael Emerson rocks our world.
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FeliciaM7 |
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WHAT'S TO COME
Lost boss Damon Lindelof attended the excellent Juan-Manuel Rocha-hosted Comics on Comics event at Meltdown on Sunset tonight. He offered the assembled crowd several very interesting insights about the future of Lost. VOTE NO ON MIDI-CHLORIANS: Damon gave us a sense of what kind of Lost questions will be answered, and which other mysteries won't explicitly be explained by the end of the series: "There are certain questions about the show that I'm very befuddled by like, 'What is the Island?' or 'What do the numbers mean?' We're going to be explaining a little more about the numbers, maybe significantly more about the numbers, but what do you mean by 'What do the numbers mean?' What is a potential answer to that question? I feel like you have to be very careful about entering into midi-chlorian territory...I grew up on Star Wars, I've seen the Star Wars movies hundreds of times, I can recite them chapter and verse, and never once did anyone ever say to me or did it occur to me to say, 'What is the Force, exactly? Can you explain that for me, better than Alec Guinness does?' I understand, 'When are we going to find out about Libby?' That's a very finite question. 'Who is Jacob?' OK, yes, we've been talking to this guy named Jacob, so those questions then should have answers, but 'What is the Island?' That starts to get into 'What is the Force?' It is a place. I can't explain to you why it moves through space-time, it just does. You have to accept the fact that it does." Can you live with that? SURVEY SAYS, ZZZT! WRONG ANSWER: Regarding the approaching final season and possible fan reaction to the accompanying reveals, Damon says, "There isn't a perfect way to end the show, but the end inevitably approaches and so the show has to start answering more and more questions. To me the greatest thing about Lost, just in terms of writing it, was that [over the years] the show could ask a question, and everyone [watching] could say 'Here's what I think the answer to that is.' And next year we're basically going to spend the entire season telling you you're wrong. 'Here's the actual answer to that question.' And you're going to say, 'S--t, my answer was actually much better.' " Have you been satisfied or displeased with the answers we've gotten so far? HOW IT ENDS: Just as an insight into Damon's mind (and thus a pointer to possible plans for the Lost series ender), you might be interested to know that the M*A*S*H finale is Damon's all-time favorite series conclusion. MORE SERIES FINALE CLUES: Damon says that when the show ends, "All of the character resolutions will be very defined. There is going to be no cut to black. The show for me and Carlton [Cuse] and J.J. [Abrams] and all the people writing it-it's not about the Island. The Island is where it takes place. It's about this group of people who crashed on the Island on Sept. 22, 2004, and how they influenced the history of the Island in some ways and had a very significant and pivotal role to play there. You're going to see that role play out, and their fates will all be resolved by the end of the series-that's the story that we're telling. In terms of every little bit of minutiae about the Island itself...there will be questions [left unanswered] after the show [ends]." LIBBY SAYS HI: Libby's story will not be wrapped up on the show. Says Damon, "I have learned that if you kill someone off the show, they are less likely to cooperate with you." Basically, Cynthia Watros is busy until further notice and they can't explain Libby without her, at least not in any way that shows her story rather than annoyingly tells her story. What's the takeaway for us fans? Next time you've got Damon cornered, don't waste your breath asking about Libby. Instead, bust his chops about another very important blonde: Claire! Where is that little minx, anyway? THE SUM IS 108: This one goes out to all the Lostpedians out there. Damon said, "Here's the story with numbers. The Hanso Foundation that started the Dharma Initiative hired this guy Valenzetti to basically work on this equation to determine what was the probability of the world ending in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Valenzetti basically deduced that it was 100 percent within the next 27 years, so the Hanso Foundation started the Dharma Initiative in an effort to try to change the variables in the equation so that mankind wouldn't wipe it itself out." This information, in more convoluted form, was leaked out via the online games rather than explained on the show itself, says Damon, because, "That would be the worst thing ever. We have to make the show for the hardcore fans who care about the numbers, but we also have to make it for my mom, who just wants Sawyer to take his shirt off." SO THERE: While discussing Wolverine and the role of canon in comic adaptations, Damon said, "At the end of the day, you can do anything you want [as a storyteller] so long as it's cool." Certainly applies to Lost too, don't you think? Source: E!Online |
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Hostile6 |
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Good news Felicia. TV guide's getting lost read an email saying Jack is a jerk. The host said that by the end of the finale, you'll be thinking
otherwise. I know the Jack news has looked bleak, but don't jump yet!
Emerson's tease is interesting. the finale ending is hyped as a shock, yet it seems obvious as to what will happen... Maybe we're to far in the forest to see the trees? Or maybe it's a psyche out? Wanting us to think of other possibilities only to have the show end the way we think? It's OK, just come to Comic-Con this summer and talk to us. Now, does Ben still have a plan? I think Ben has a lot of layers of plans, but I think we're way off the main stem of anything that works for him. I mean, Ben's doing like moment-to-moment scrambling now. Wholesale change? IF Ben has a dramatic life? hmmm Ben tried and failed to kill Penny this season. Will he try again, or is he done with that effort?I wish they would of explored this more and not fixated on Dharmaville as much. I'm also interested in his thoughts on ghost Alex. I would think he would be onboard w/Daniel's plan. Ben has tried and succeeded to kill Locke once this year. Would he try again, or does he believe Locke is untouchable, which Locke almost seems to believe about himself?I read a TV guide finale preview that said Ben and Locke will have a battle or sorts (It's a scan on Dark sites, and I'm paraphrasing). Combine that with Richard screaming "There can be only be one leader!" and I think we're finally going to get an epic fight for the right to be leader of the others. I hope anyway. |
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we also have to make it for my mom, who just wants Sawyer to take his shirt off." |
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FeliciaM7 |
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Good news Felicia. TV guide's getting lost read an email saying Jack is a jerk. The host said that by the end of the finale, you'll be thinking otherwise. I know the Jack news has looked bleak, but don't jump yet!So he's gonna help detonate a bomb that kills someone that will cause immense pain to the viewers and everyone will NOT think he's a jerk by the end of the finale?? Are we reading these spoilers correctly? |
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Hostile6 |
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FeliciaM7 wrote:To be fair, it was Kristen's spoiler... I have no idea, there's a flow of information not adding up. |
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Little Boy |
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I'm pretty much set in my thought process that time is not altered in any way. Here's my take (please feel free to flame me for my theory).
- Jack's purpose is (and always was) to go back in time, remove the atomic portion of the Jughead from its casing and use it on the Swan station. The station itself is sitting on a magnetic power source... the very source that the donkey wheel relies on. When the bomb is set off it causes the donkey wheel to get stuck again or "frozen" (for the first time). This, in turn, causes another time rift which will be the final rift that sends anyone connected with the future trapped in 1977 back to the future in their own timeline. What isn't known is who is alive or dead after the return trip. |
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FeliciaM7 |
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I can see that happening. But I do believe we'll know at least one person (a main character) is dead for sure.
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Kirblar |
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Hurley kind of makes the most sense on a classical level- killing off the comic relief before the final act is kinda a standard play.
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Hostile6 wrote: Oh come on...i cant believe you guys are so critical about 6 episodes in 70's Dharma. After season 3 in 2004 Others land...polar bear cages, love triangles, characters jumping ship left and right...this 70's idland stuff is magnificant in comparison. In fact, alot of the stuff is integral to the story. Im enjoying the backwards looking forward thing *shrugs* |
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cindidindi76 |
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We know.
Each one alone would be enough to keep an audience eating its own soul for the whole hiatus, Does anyone else kind of laugh when people ask them what's going to happen to their characters next season? Because I'm thinking they don't really have much of an idea yet. |
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FeliciaM7 |
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- There is mythological advancement in the finale
- The finale has a season 1 feel to it along with season 6 - We will get more information about John Locke and the kill Jacob scenario - Follow the leader was the first part of the finale - They joke that jacob is a 60ft tall flaming man - They hint that sawyer, kate and juliet may get back to the island in a special way.. carlton jokes 'the magic box?' - The compass is in a time loop, they refer to it as what came first, the chicken or the egg? - The video from comic con with Faraday talking to Chang was non-canon, only the show is canon, plus they could not get to that storyline in the actual show - Faraday was meant to stay on the island instead of going to ann arbor, in this time he was going to try convince chang about the future, instead they sent him to ann arbor because of show constraints etc - Hurley is a good guy, so is Kate and Lapidus and Sayid maybe a bad guy - 60ft Flaming Jacob is a good guy - Damon says that by the end of the incident and the premier of season 6 we will have enough information to theorize well how the whole series will end, as we will get a substantial piece of information in the incident, but then carlton says at the end of season 6 is when we will have enough information. *eyeroll* |
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Fluffynurse |
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Hurley is a good guy, so is Kate and Lapidus and Sayid maybe a bad guy Is Jack good? Is Locke good? Is Sun good? Is Jin good? Is Sawyer good? OR, are they trying to tell us that Sayid kills Hurley, Kate & Lapidus? |
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Hostile6 |
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I think they mean to say that Sayid falls into the Ben category shades of gray. The guy has done some pretty bleak shit throughout his life. To top it off, he
tried to kill a 12 year old. As Kate said and I agreed with), when did that become OK? Circumstances brought upon the idea, but no doubt it's wrong.
Mythological advancement in the finale... Anyone got any ideas? I heard we were going to see the statue from the front in the finale, so maybe ancient times plays into that? |
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cindidindi76 |
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- They joke that jacob is a 60ft tall flaming man Like the Wicker Man? |
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