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Oowatanite		#101	[-]
Posts: 7655 (05/15/09 11:30 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Pshhhh we have secret to share Remove this ad meatball77 wrote: Someone's bitter . . . . . . He's going to give us a very entertaining Jury speech I think he's going to give us a very indulgent Jury poem.
sunflower101		#102	[-]
Posts: 4618 (05/15/09 11:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Oowatanite wrote: meatball77 wrote: Someone's bitter . . . . . . He's going to give us a very entertaining Jury speech I think he's going to give us a very indulgent Jury poem. Can't it be both. I can see Coach calling Stephen out (in Coach's mind) for being dishonest and then going on and on about how honest he was (in Coach's mind he is the only honest player).
sunflower101		#103	[-]
Posts: 4619 (05/15/09 11:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	He was bitching about the fact the strong wouldn't get to the end ever since Tyson was blindsided. For everyone that thinks Coach would have a problem looking like a hypocrite, you are wrong.
trackmiler		#104	[-]
Posts: 42 (05/15/09 12:47 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Heliox wrote: Coach and Ass coach are a couple. They live together and ass coach talks to coach's parents. Not that our people want to include him in our ranks. ugh. And on another clip...A BRAIN TUMOR?? 6 WEEKS TO LIVE?? Stop it you freak, just stop talking. He is ruining the great Ponderosa crew! Ponderosa also revealed why we had the picture of emaciated bearded Coach pre-game. He wanted to look like a warrior when he returned home. Frankly he looked like a schizophrenic drug abusing homeless person. No honor Coach, only disgust and pity for anyone who ever has to deal with the shit you serve. He did have a brain tumor, I don't know if he still does, but he lied about leaving for treatment for his brain tumor when he abandoned his womens college soccer team in mid-season so he could be on Survivor. Then he was fired when the administrators discovered the truth. Apparently he was a pretty good soccer coach at the small Baptist college in Bolivar, Missouri (my father grew up near there). I actually enjoyed the character of Coach on the show, but I am done listening to his crap.
trackmiler		#105	[-]
Posts: 43 (05/15/09 12:50 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	trackmiler wrote: Heliox wrote: Coach and Ass coach are a couple. They live together and ass coach talks to coach's parents. Not that our people want to include him in our ranks. ugh. And on another clip...A BRAIN TUMOR?? 6 WEEKS TO LIVE?? Stop it you freak, just stop talking. He is ruining the great Ponderosa crew! Ponderosa also revealed why we had the picture of emaciated bearded Coach pre-game. He wanted to look like a warrior when he returned home. Frankly he looked like a schizophrenic drug abusing homeless person. No honor Coach, only disgust and pity for anyone who ever has to deal with the shit you serve. He did have a brain tumor, I don't know if he still does, but he lied about leaving for treatment for his brain tumor when he abandoned his womens college soccer team in mid-season so he could be on Survivor. Then he was fired when the administrators discovered the truth. Apparently he was a pretty good soccer coach at the small Baptist college in Bolivar, Missouri (my father grew up near there). I actually enjoyed the character of Coach on the show, but I am done listening to his crap. The last sentence, "I actually enjoyed the character of Coach on the show, but I am done listening to his crap," wasn't mine but Heliox's. Sorry for the technical glitch.
rower	Life at the Ponderosa	#106	[-]
Posts: 2108 (05/15/09 12:57 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Actually he lied about the brain tumor. It was the excuse he gave his school for leaving during the play-off season. When the school discovered he was on Survivor and NOT being treated for a brain tumor, they let him go. LOSER
birdlady		#107	[-]
Posts: 2648 (05/15/09 02:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Either way, he's an embarrassment to people with brain tumors. It doesn't bother me nearly as much that there was a delusional person in my television, as that this person was in a position of authority to young women. I'd feel a lot better if he had decided to just stay out there...
cindidindi76		#108	[-]
Posts: 17964 (05/15/09 03:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Roadfinder wrote: I felt so sorry for Coach on this last episode. I think he actually believes his delusional ramblings. We lost in Ben "Coach" Wade, the one player that made this show most interesting! Jeff Probst felt the same way, when he sent him away to Exile Island, judging by Jeff's sad expression on his face. Getting sent to Exile Island in his condition broke my heart, and he wasn't faking. Coach, the Dragon Slayer, was humble in his defeat. Erinn came across as a total bitch, and so did Taj. I can't wait to see the videos of Coach at Ponderosa, but they were not uploaded yet on the CBS website the last time I checked. I'll place them as soon as I see them. Or somebody else, please, post them here. Goodbye, Dragon Slayer. I'm sorry you couldn't slay this dragon. Are you out of your everloving mind?!?! Are we watching the same show?
trackmiler		#109	[-]
Posts: 45 (05/15/09 03:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	rower wrote: Actually he lied about the brain tumor. It was the excuse he gave his school for leaving during the play-off season. When the school discovered he was on Survivor and NOT being treated for a brain tumor, they let him go. LOSER I thought he did have a brain tumor, but lied about going back for more treatment. No dispute with the rest of your point.
pizzzzza		#110	[-]
Posts: 751 (05/15/09 07:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Pshhhh we have secret to share Remove this ad Coach - what a delusional, self indulgent fuckwad - there goes all the fun at Ponderosa. Everyone else realized it was "just a game" once they were voted off - he doesn't 'get it' - it was 'real life' to him - "Mr Dragonslayer" - puleeeeeeeze The sad part is he thinks (in his small feeble mind) that he's right, and everyone else is wrong. Please oh please NEVER have this man on ANY TV show ever, ever again (after the reunion, of course).
rower	Life at Ponderosa	#111	[-]
Posts: 2113 (05/15/09 10:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Trackmiller - Actually he had a "lump" on the back of his head.... a far cry from a "brain tumor." And Roadfinder - The videos are up at the Ponderosa... go watch your hero and please note: During the bumpy ride to the Ponderosa with his self-proclaimed "broken-back" there was nary a grimace of pain except for the grimace he made trying to stuff too much food in his mouth. HE IS A POSTER CHILD FOR A FAKER. Then watch Coach say that he only wants to see Debbi and Tyson, that he has no interest in talking to the others (Sierra / Brenden) which is exactly the same divisive tactic he employed to cause the Timberas to become arguably the worst team in Survivor history. See Coach as he proclaims himself the only one worthy of winning this game and how he can't believe that he is out because nobody deserves it more than him. Finally watch Coach strut around camp the first day with nary a limp and no cane. Miraculous recovery? No a FAKER. And if you have been able to stomach all this .... listen to how he says he will *&%^&% anyone who touches him (said after he has been watching Brenden, Sierra, Debbi all goof around with each other). My God, man, lighten up. You are not the Dragon Slayer, you are the FAKING LOSER. No wonder your parents don't want to talk to you. (Watch the clips and you'll see what I mean)
OzarkSurvivor		#112	[-]
Posts: 802 (05/15/09 11:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Oh Lordy... I never thought I would be writing a Coach defense: In Coach's defense (I know, I know, I know)... watch his "you ask, they tell," video on the cbs site. He's surprisingly down to earth (at least, relatively speaking). He admits wholeheartedly that his gameplay sucked. He said he wasn't playing the same way everyone else was. He said he wanted to play with honesty and integrity and character, and to him, that meant buildng an alliance of strong players and remaining loyal to them till the end (Tyson and Debbie, later adding Stephen and JT). In his mind, the unethical way to play is to be sneaky and change your gameplan in the middle (which is essentially adaptation, the biggest goal of Survivor). While I don't agree with his game strategy, I think that in some ways we can seperate his gameplay ideology (integrity of maintaining loyalty to a strong alliance) from his obsession with mythology and ancient warrior/tribal cultures. In this video, he doesn't use any of that same verbage (dragonslayer, warrior, samurai, apache, etc etc) the way he did while playing the game. While I still laugh at him, this video (which was shot this week, as opposed to the final words and Ponderosa stuff) made me have a little bit more respect for him. Coach wanted strong players to make it far in Survivor, instead of the weak being rewarded for their weakness by taking out all the threats. He just got that "honesty, integrity" business mixed up with his adult version of Cowboys & Indians, creating this imaginary world that we have come to know as "Coach."
Roadfinder		#113	[-]
Posts: 4560 (05/16/09 12:21 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts	rower wrote: .... And Roadfinder - The videos are up at the Ponderosa... go watch your hero and please note: During the bumpy ride to the Ponderosa with his self-proclaimed "broken-back" there was nary a grimace of pain except for the grimace he made trying to stuff too much food in his mouth. HE IS A POSTER CHILD FOR A FAKER..... Psst... rower. I already posted the videos on the last page here. I don't understand what's up with all the Coach hatred. Sure, he's arrogant and delusional, with a messiah complex, but he made this show far more entertaining. Jeff says in his blog, a bit effusively and overboard, yet true from a producer's standpoint: .......................... No sense in burying the lead. It finally happened. You all got your wish.... ...Coach is gone. You've been complaining about him for weeks on end. The universal energy you all put out there to get rid of him worked. Now be honest... are you truly happy? Is life better now? Or do you think you might miss him just a wee little bit? Be honest. Listen up 'cause I'm gonna give you a dose of truth that will either having you nodding in agreement or vowing to never watch the show again: Coach was without question the most dynamic character this season. Nobody was even a close second. Thinking Coach is a great character doesn't mean I think he's a great guy. It also doesn't mean I think he's a punk. My personal feelings about Coach are irrelevant; I'm only talking from a show point of view. He was, in the words of Jon Favreau and Vince Vaughn, "money." Absolute money. Love him or hate him, Coach provided more memorable moments than anybody on the show in years. He is an absolute must if we ever do another all-stars and if you saw him on the street you wouldn't be able to help yourself. You'd approach him so fast you'd lose your shoes. Let's review his farewell episode, shall we? Just when you thought Coach couldn't provide any more fantastic moments...Coach gets sent to Exile Island. The exchange between Coach and Erinn was one of the best of the season. Upon watching the episode and seeing what Coach said in interview and to J.T. (which I am not privy to during the show) I actually do not think Coach was trying to upstage Erinn. I think Coach was worried about making fire and living on his own. I think he was worried that he might look bad and so decided to avoid doing anything at all and instead turn it into a positive "choice." Coach's speech on Exile Island will go down as one of the most fantastic in the history of our show. Coach Wade talking about himself in the third person was so good I am speechless. I cannot express how much I enjoyed it. Absolutely brilliant. ADVICE: Young actors in Hollywood, take the Coach Wade monologue and use it as your audition piece for any and every thing. Wanna get an agent? Lay that on them. Wanna book that commercial? Give them a yuppie version of Coach Wade. Wanna meet Spielberg? Get to work on Coach Wade and it just may happen. You can't go wrong with Coach Wade. You guys think I'm putting you on. I really do think you could do a show with Coach Wade. Word for word, moment for moment, Coach Wade is one of the most entertaining guys on television today. I'm surprised CBS hasn't already signed him to his own show. "Weekends With Coach Wade." Or of course the more dramatic, "By day he's a former soccer coach and part time conductor. On the weekends he is 'The Dragon Slayer." No need for writers or actors. It's all about Coach and his life and it's all there. Yes, I am serious. I miss Coach. The immunity challenge couldn't have been much better. Talk about a classic Survivor challenge. Unreal. Love it. It was so good I am laughing as I am writing this - sheer joy. It started with Coach's long walk in from Exile and the insincere hug from Stephen. Ah, this game can be so brutal. The challenge itself was really good. I love challenges that are simple in concept but demanding in execution. That challenge was definitely demanding. Very hard on your feet. I tried it myself. It hurts. A lot. It was a very hot day as well. But Coach's dramatic fall from grace was one of the most memorable performances ever. If there are any award shows honoring reality stars, Coach has to be nominated and he is a shoo-in to win. Name anybody on any reality show this year that has been more compelling than Coach? Nobody, I tell you, nobody! Long Live Coach Wade! And like any Emmy-worthy episode of Survivor, it ended with what else...a poem from Coach Wade. In case you missed it: "With friend and foe we march to the battle plain Some to seek success others to seek fame We play with honor for the love of this game And with armor or without we will toil in vain So that someday someone somewhere will remember our name." Coach, I assure you, nobody will ever forget your name. You left your mark on Survivor. I hope it is not the last we see of you. Okay, so where are we now? Our final four: J.T. - If he gets to the final two he probably wins... unless he goes up against... TAJ - This would be quite a show down. Two of the most well liked people in the game. STEPHEN - Best bet is to go up against Erinn, who he could probably beat. ERINN - A long shot due to her betrayal - hard for her to get votes from the former Timbira members on the jury. Might be smart to take her all the way to the end. You know how this works...Sunday May 17, 8-10 p.m. our final 2 hour episode. 10-11pm the live reunion show. If you're in the central time zone it's one hour earlier across the board. I hope you enjoy it. As always it's been a pleasure chatting each week. Thanks for all your feedback, positive... and negative! I wouldn't want it any other way! ............................ There are videos in this link, including an interview with Jeff and an interview with Coach: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/05/jeff-probst-b-2.html Last Edited By: Roadfinder 05/16/09 12:31 AM. Edited 1 times.
TAR Addict		#114	[-]
Posts: 636 (05/16/09 01:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Coach thinking the game and Ponderosa was real life Coach mad at Debbie, Tysonm Serria, and Brendan for getting along, cause he wanted Debbie and Tyson to himself Coach saying he has never had a beard, although he has been lost in the amazon or whatever Coach being right about the Love/Hate, but people will remember him Coach saying he is the most worthy, blah blah blah Coach getting a call from his Ass Coach, and not his family Coach trying to rationalizing treating Serria like shit Coach starving himself STILL Coach being a "truth-seeker" Overall, COACH HATE
donutsrule		#115	[-]
Posts: 456 (05/16/09 04:18 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	OzarkSurvivor wrote: In Coach's defense (I know, I know, I know)... watch his "you ask, they tell," video on the cbs site. I watched that and now he's lost SIXTY pounds in his time on Survivor. Even when he sounds normal he has to toss a lie in there. rower, his limp/no limp kind of made me laugh. Has he not seen House? And the bad back? I mean he was whinging and moaning about it before he goes to Exile then uses his back like a crane to pick his stuff up instead of bending at the knees which is what you do when your back is sore otherwise you can seize it right up. And his fuddy duddy thing about the syrup squirting. sigh It's called 'having fun' you grouchy bastard.
JT Rocks		#116	[-]
Posts: 916 (05/16/09 04:41 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Coach ruined Ponderosa, as expected.
shoeless rye		#117	[-]
Posts: 5299 (05/16/09 09:46 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Coach is bitter at Pondarosa because this was "real life" for him, this was a real adventure - as opposed to those criminally exaggerated ones he has to lie about because they sucked. Now he goes to Pondarosa and the rest are treating it as nothing more than a game. They played the game and are now just hanging out together before the go home and back to their lives and Coach hates that. Their actions diminish his adventure, his mythology. The Dragon Slayer's assist coach in the game Tyson is palling around with Brenden and Sierra, Debbie is completely over the game and is just having fun. Coach is such a phony that he doesn't want to eat or shave because he wants to go home and have folks ask and wonder about him - so he can make up more stories about what he did. Of course he would have been sworn to secrecy about the game, meaning he could tell folks "I'm not at liberty to say" and leave folks wondering "Just what did Coach Wade do this time - did he do some covert op for the US military?" He's Don Quixote and his assistant coach is his Sancho Panza. But he knows he's faking it, you can see it in his eyes and it kills him.
apricot		#118	[-]
Posts: 22 (05/16/09 11:57 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Like leaving the lift ticket on your #%+$$# and someone calls you on it because the last time you went skiing was two months ago. I didn't even bother to watch his ponderosa part 2. Norm on Cheers was an entertaining pompous know-it-all ass, but then he is a professional actor.
Heliox		#119	[-]
Posts: 2257 (05/16/09 12:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	donutsrule wrote: OzarkSurvivor wrote: In Coach's defense (I know, I know, I know)... watch his "you ask, they tell," video on the cbs site. I watched that and now he's lost SIXTY pounds in his time on Survivor. Even when he sounds normal he has to toss a lie in there. I KNOW! Jeff offers that you can't prove or disprove any of his grandiose stories. But on Ponderosa tape, medical team documenting his weight loss at 31 pounds. Start at 180 and finish at 149, and he still has to beef up the story. I grew up with someone like him, they just can not tell something as it occurs, it has to be embellished to "vault themselves above others". This from the speech he gave about Erinn. And the tumor? A bump on the back of his head?? Probably a lipoma or fat tumor, a world away from having a brain tumor growing in your skull with only 6 weeks to live. YES he was great on the show, now he needs to just go back to his therapist and stay the hell off our tv. Anyone read he wants his own show? And Jeff P thinks he should have his own show? I hope like hell the reunion show is not the Coach show. I will be taping and fast forwarding past things he says.
VaBeachGuy		#120	[-]
Posts: 381 (05/16/09 01:30 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Pshhhh we have secret to share Remove this ad OzarkSurvivor wrote: Coach wanted strong players to make it far in Survivor, instead of the weak being rewarded for their weakness by taking out all the threats. But you see, in the game of Survivor things are different than in real life. In Survivor Coach is one of the "weak" and his "weakness" was in his inability to play the game of Survivor with an attitude of "all out" game play. In Survivor lying and back stabbing aren't 'dishonorable' traits. They are basic tools. Coach was too stupid to understand that, what he saw as his "strengths" were, in the reality of Survivor weaknesses. So in that sense, he got his wish. The "weak" were booted out and the "strong" survive.

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