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shoeless rye |
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The title is likely said during the final immunity endurance challenge. Two folks are remaining and neither are willing to drop out and let the other win
sorta deal.
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MMan9000 |
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I don't know why, but to me, "second vote" sounds more like it's referring to the F3 tribal council rather than a re-vote at the F4 tribal
council.
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Apple6666 |
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Here's a new preview, thanks to Survivor Phoenix: |
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Oowatanite |
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MMan, I believe that you are correct. I don't recall a "revote" in the F4s of CI and EI.
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trackmiler |
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Apple6666 wrote: |
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MarleeRojas |
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Posts: 5033 (05/15/09 7:28 PM) Registered User |
I should've explained myself better.
Taj thinks she's going to the F2 with Stephen, Erinn convinces her otherwise (and correctly) that JT & Stephen are in it together and Taj is playing for 3rd. So Taj joins forces with Erinn and they force a tie, Stephen then beats Erinn in the fire making challenge, Erinn goes. In order to save herself and explain why she forced the tie she probably tells JT about her F2 alliance with Stephen that was made somewhere close to the time he made a F2 alliance with JT, causing JT to doubt Stephen's loyalty. He probably struggles with deciding between Taj & Stephen when deciding who to take to the F2 (since he wins final immunity) and ends up taking Stephen. JT probably paints Stephen as a villain due to his many alliances and Stephen fights back. |
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Apple6666 |
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YEAH it problay mean they turn on each other at the final two and trash each other.
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intlschizo |
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trackmiler wrote:Since the CBS promo at the start of this thread notes "the final two turning on each other at the final Tribal Council," I guess with the above comment from Jeff this means Stephen and JT are the final two. JT and Stephen turn on each other, but they have three TCs to do it. Apple6666 wrote: Yes, and last week we saw Taj make fire on her lap. What's your point? For all this JT/Stephen final two: 1) If JT wins immunity, why the hell would he take Stephen? 2) If Stephen wins, why the hell would he take JT? 3) If neither win, are we really expecting the real winner to step down and let them duke it out?
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LKMOSCAR |
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I just keep wondering why Jeff would say that Stephen's only chance is with Erinn. Maybe Erinn creates a lie that Stephen/Jt, whoever doesn't win
immunity if it's not her, would choose Taj over the other in the final 3. A shocking vote, by the way, doesn't make me think tie. Erinn also tells Taj
that she'll take her to the final 2, so Taj decides to go into the final 3 thinking that both people will DEFINITELY take her. 3-1 vote, JT/Stephen go.
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Apple6666 |
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Why would Erinn/Stephen turn on each other at the final TC.
The same with JT/Erinn they was never really align. |
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MMan9000 |
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Yeah, apparently Erinn was aligned with them well enough to be considered a Jalapao (per the Taj Ep. 12 insider clip). And besides, if Erinn is involved in the
lie with either Stephen or JT, the other could easily try to pin it on her (thus they turn on her).
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intlschizo |
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Taj says it's 4-2. That doesn't make her a Jalapao in the least. It makes her #4 on a three person list.
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trackmiler |
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As cited by missyae in the castaway interview thread, here is another interview with Coach which gives credence to JT and Stephen being in the final two:
http://realitytvmagazine....the-dragonslayer-speaks/ "I think a lot of people go to that Final Tribal and they have a vendetta. They have an ax to grind. People at Ponderosa are all talking, 'Make this person feel uncomfortable. Make that person feel uncomfortable.' They all told me to do that in the jury. And I didn't. I just looked at them and smiled. Stephen was really bothered, actually, by it. I gave him a smile and looked at him with forgiving eyes as if, 'Ya know what, don't worry about it. It's just a game..." That, combined with the promo of the final two turning on each other, and Jeff stating that JT and Stephen turn on each other.. Of course, Coach could be trying to mislead, but that doesn't seem likely in this context. |
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Apple6666 |
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Stephen and TJ problay throw each other under the bus at final two. |
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LKMOSCAR |
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trackmiler wrote: Why do you consider that credence that they're the final 2? |
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MMan9000 |
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That just confirms that Stephen is in the final two, that says nothing about JT being in the final two. Maybe I'm reading way too much into it, but it
almost sounds like Stephen feels guilty about blindsiding someone other than Coach (likely JT) and is worried about Coach's reactions to it.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see Stephen and JT going so far as to throw each other under the bus. They both have basically played the same game from the merge on, so they really can't trash the other person's gameplay. Likewise, I can see Erinn and Stephen going at it (both probably trying to prove that the other was more dishonest or something like that). Erinn would likely speak up if Stephen tried to discredit her, leading to an argument (which the preview seems to highly indicate). Although, while I like presenting alternate possibilities, knowing the way this season is going, it will most likely wind up being the predictable JT vs. Stephen final two, with them getting into a friendly debate about who was the real mastermind behind things.
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LKMOSCAR |
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Also, what the hell could Stephen even say to throw JT under the bus?
Stephen: Coach, he voted for you to stay to get your vote! Coach:NEVER! He wanted me here! You voted against me, evil wizard! |
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Apple6666 |
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JT and Stephen can claim the other one was the one who done the dirty work and they are the evil one.
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missyae |
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More Coach love for Stephen. http://tvblog.ugo.com/tv/survivor-exit-interivew-coach
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Ultra Debbalicious |
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Posts: 10 (05/15/09 9:35 PM) |
I don't know if this means anything but according to Erinn's twitter page she said that a party being had at her place of business was going to be
featured on CBS Sunday night...don't they usually only show those family parties for the finalists?
Hey hey y'all.... Finale Party on Sunday night at my place of business to be featured on CBS. Message me for the details!!
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