Agreed, I consider JT a very good winner. Other players kept 3 weak competitors at the end, some of whom didn't get much respect from you, Todd and Chris in particular. Come to think of it, Aras also kept the two weakest competitors that could have been voted out!My reason for lowering Todd is that he didn't understand the end-game dynamics in that he didn't realize at all how much power Denise and Amanda had and how much they were ready to turn on him. Chris did a good job, I agree, but he also made a horrendous error in judgment and had little to do with the coup that took out Ami. I think he's a good winner though.
About Brian, I mainly rank him lower due to his extremely weak competition. The guy was good but he wasn't challenged. Because you wrote: "you can't just piss on someone's game because their opposition was (supposedly) stupid", I guess we'd be turning around in a never ending circle. I feel the competition you beat shows how good you are. To be the best, you have to beat the best. Thailand was the worst.That is subjective. Again, its the chicken or the egg ... was his competition that weak or did he just play them that well? Chuay Gahn was full of people who wanted to win at all costs (aside from Jan), and he had them all under his control.
I know that you value strategy above everything but strategy isn't predicting everything. Even a chess grand master doesn't calculate every possibility. Hatch and Tom both had a clear plan to the end and both adapted their plans to the changing circumstances. Having fallback options actually shows more abilities, not less.I would like to point out that I have Rich high on the list, since he pioneered the game. But he didn't play the perfect game. He didn't have an effective clear plan because he couldn't see what Sue and Kelly were doing behind his back, and he never would have known had they not turned on one another ... which had nothing to do with Hatch, so I can't credit him for that.
Tom again, had a clear plan but his plan wasn't going to work unless he won immunity because he couldn't grasp the fact that people wanted to get rid of him.
BTW, when I wrote that successful teams reward their leaders I didn't mean they were giving Tom the game. I meant they didn't want him voted out prematuraly.True, except Tom painted a bullseye on himself and Gregg/Jenn wanted him out prematurely. Katie wanted him out prematurely. Even Ian wanted to turn on him early. To his credit, he really took advantage of Caryn. He played her like a pawn.
According to Shane, they were the ones that carried Cirie! Terry winning immunity changed the game. It wasn't about strategy anymore, it was about outlasting Terry. What move would you suggest Aras needed to do? I never said he played an amazing game but he did what he had to do. Having to go up against Terry and not being able to count on his alliance is an indication that he had to work for his win.Shane is also the person that thought he was running the game but wasn't. He was the most unaware about the game dynamics.
Work a backplan with La Mina that wasn't necessarily a full on deal, but more of a truce or anything to get the target off of him from them. Pretend to want to go along with them, whatever he had to do. Instead he told them he'd rather go down than betray Casaya, which insured they would keep voting on him. In the end game, Cirie strategized for him and he did what she said. He never showed me he understood how to play a good game. He had his moments, but overall he was very MOR.
I see you've dropped the arguments on Earl, Chris and Todd. Does that mean you agree, at least in part, with my arguments?I didn't notice you had arguments for them, sorry. I always think you have valid points on many aspects, we just probably view strategy differently.
















