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diving4gold |
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Team Plus 8 for me, Jon and Kate can DIAF, they are both complete twats.
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Eric in San Diego |
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I try to give folks an even break, ok? Really, I do. Kate Gosselin just absolutely chafes my ass RAW, though. Her fake sincerity, the tremulous voice, the
fear that her makeup will get mussed...I just wanted to punch her in the stomach! There is no longer any spark of love between her and Jon, and it's
painful to watch them together.
I was a card carrying member of Team Jon for the last couple of seasons, but no more. I am now on TEAM KID!! The children are still as adorable as ever, and it's nice to see that Mady and Cara are stepping it up a bit. I just have a hard time imagining what life is going to be like as they transition into the next phase...without Jon living in the house. How fucking sad is it that Kate is such a media whore and Jon is such a CHILD that they cannot put aside their petty issues and fight to keep their family intact? Pretty freakin' sad. Kate is absolutely transparent. There is nothing in the world more important to her than her next opportunity to be in the spotlight. Jon, well, he seems stuck in some teenage/early twenties thing where being a husband and father cramps his style. What a crock. Hey Kate!! Think your party planning might have been a little easier if you still had family or friends? Too bad you isolated yourself from everyone else, eh? What's with the park setting for the party, anyway? They have a beautiful spread with acres of lawn AT HOME!! WTF?? In public, the "P-People" have every right to photograph you and your brood. At home, on private property, they could be arrested! That kind of tells the tale, doesn't it? |
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Team Jon here, though I still think he has to shoulder a lot of the blame for this trainwreck.
I used to be a fan of Kate's at the very beginning, but I can't stand the bitch now. STAY THE FUCK HOME. It's not your job to do book signings and get paid to give people your "expert" opinion on motherhood. It's your job to be there for your kids. You already make 3 MILLION a year on them from the TV show, enough is enough. I'm starting to wonder if this supposed "contract" between Kate and Jon actually was real, and she was ok with him being with other women, but he got caught which was why she is so disappointed in his "poor decisions", etc. |
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Meh, if I have to choose a side, then Team Kate for me. John is a lazy, listless loser and there's no way he would have been able to support the family on
his own. He actually got the better deal staying home all the time with the nannies to help, yet he still whines on with all his "woe is me, I can't
have an affair without people thinking it's scandalous" shit.
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Mistopheles |
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Count me in for Team Jon.
If a man spoke to a woman that way on any show (anyone remember Jonathan and Victoria, Amazing Race), people would be all over the spousal abuse for poor wifey. So for him to man up to her, please. She has browbeat that poor man down to nothing and then he has to watch her redo it to him every single episode they watch. It's like spousal abuse groundhog day. Do I condone the cheating? Absolutely not. However, the cheating is the symptom of an unhappy marriage, not the cause. I do believe in the earlier episodes, Kate used to be kinder to him and everyone else around her. I don't know what happened to change her personality to the whining, controlling, mean-spirited martyr she is now. I used to like her in the first episodes. Yeah, she was shrewish but Jon fought back and they were just a stressed but lovable, bickering family. Somewhere during the seasons, she became mean and abusive and he lost his voice. You have to notice that they have lost the support of her family but he still sees his. Something is wrong with her. Lastly, she threw him under the bus so many times so I give him credit for not throwing her under the bus as well. Your children will watch these episodes as they grow older, they will see you throw their beloved father under the bus and they will either resent it or get really angry. I have seen it happen to my friends who have kids. No child likes to see one parent talk bad about the other. Kate needs to be careful so that her children don't get upset with her, even if she feels justified in doing that. |
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kaizersozelives |
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OK, maybe I'm in the minority here, but why is it a foregone conclusion that Jon cheated? He denies it, and frankly the idea that he was just in the wrong
place at the wrong time is a very plausible explanation. Kate denies the rumours of herself cheating, and most people on here are giving her a free pass, so
why is Jon automatically guilty? So "he apologized for his actions" - this doesn't equal an admission of screwing around, he's probably
talking about the fact that he was caught out partying with young co-eds and brought embarassment to the family because of the resulting media circus.
Anyhow, I think he's being a bit whiny regardless and should man up a bit - however I'm not running on the assumption that he screwed around just because some tabloid thought it would make a good headline. Both Jon and Kate are most likely just burnt out and are having a hard time with the complete loss of privacy. Jon is checking out because he feels he is being blamed for something that is being blown out of proportion, and Kate is depressed because her reputation is now in question and she's used to being in control. Being at the mercy of the tabloids and the paparazzi is not something she is adjusting to well. All that being said, of course they made their bed and have to lie in it. As far as patching things up, it would be good for them to come to some understanding and then have some solidarity, standing together in refuting all the rumours and asking people to lay off. I hope they can figure something out or it's going to be really painful for the kids, especially as they grow older and have to watch their parents' marriage disentegrate on TV for everyone to see. Geez, what a trainwreck... I'm not a regular poster in this thread, but after last night had to talk about it. Sad for everybody. |
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If a man spoke to a woman that way on any show (anyone remember Jonathan and Victoria, Amazing Race), people would be all over the spousal abuse for poor wifey.Not to mention the "love" taps she used to give him. If any husband was grabbing his wife's face or tapping or hitting her like that people would call that abuse to. Sure it probably doesn't hurt him but wtf, you don't hit your spouse like that constantly and then write it off as "love" taps. |
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This season is a sham. They are totally not together at all. He is obviously not living at home. Look at that the way he was looking at the kids at the
party. Asking them if they miss him.
These are looks and statements from a guy who has not seen his kids in a couple days. What is up with the sporty car he was driving as well? The only reason he is showing up is for contractual reasons. He is def done with Kate and the marriage. He is having an early mid life crisis, IMO. Kate is evil, but Jon sucks too. I said it before, I'll say it again. They should not have had so many kids. |
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What is up with the sporty car he was driving as well?Kate mentioned in one of her interviews that Jon bought a car without telling her. I'm guessing that's the car. If not using a $20 coupon pissed her off, I can't imagine how she reacted when she found out about the car. |
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If he is buying a car w/out telling her it is over. It sucks that she automatically gets to keep the kids though. They should go with their dad away from the
cameras so they can live a normal life. Let Kate stay alone in the spotlight.
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definitely Team Jon here ... I don't even watch this show regularly and the reason is I think Kate is a complete fake bitch ... she's horrible to Jon.
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What is with the "poor Jon, he had to show up because of contractual obligations" stuff? The guy isn't making a ton of money doing this show?
How did he pay for his new car?
He married a driven, type-A woman, who likes her ducks in a row and figured out a way for them both to stay home with their kids and provide a pretty good life, or at least financial stability. Does anyone seriously think Jon would be happier as a laid of IT guy, trying to find a way to put a new transmission in his 1989 Honda so he could get to his temp job and somehow make the rent on their tract house? When you have that many children when you are basically still a child yourself life isn't always "fun," and you aren't able to be "just Jon" when you are broke and anonymous either. I think he would be whining about now, show or no show. Cheating is a way to escape responsibility and pretend you don't have the obligations you took on. As to whether or not penis/vagina action happened before he snuck out the door of the teacher's house at 7 AM? Please. Something happened, even if it was just long whiny talks about his wife not understanding him and smoldering longing. Frankly, that would probably bother a wife more than a slam/bam. He's a boob. I haven't seen that many episodes, yesterday was the first time I watched this (part marathon and then the premier) but one episode really hit me as "this is the real Jon." The poor dog he wanted was sick and would have died. He didn't notice. Controlling Kate came home, took one look and knew something was wrong and got the dog to the vet. They do surgery and remove the toy horse, and Jon and the kids pick up the dog. The vet warns them that due to internal and external stitches the dog must be kept quiet for two weeks, no running, no jumping, standard post op care. Jon gets home and immediately lets the dog out to run and jump and wrestle with the other dog--God forbid he should bother to take care of his animal--too much "responsibility" for lazy assed free spirit Jon. "They are outside dogs, what can I do?" he whines, standing right behind the dog crate. Later he washes the filth off the stitches and then immediately gets rid of the dog again, back outside to romp around. When "controlling" Kate gets home and Jon continues to whine about "what else was I supposed to do" Kate sensibly and fairly quietly mentions putting the dog in the crate for a few days. (You know, like someone who gave a damn and had a brain would.) Jon just shrugged. So, yeah, she does seem to run a fairly tight ship, and with that many kids I honestly can't see another way to keep them clean, fed, happy, and learning...the thought of that many just exhausts me. Two are a handful...and I don't see Kate zoning out in front of soap operas while the kids run wild or beg for attention. Another run-away dad crying that his wife doesn't understand him...because no way in hell is that big baby capable of taking care of those kids on his salary and without Kate around to take care of all the boring and tedious "schedule" crap, or the show taking care of the bills. So if they split up I am pretty sure Kate will get the kids, and the show will continue as "Kate plus 8" so she can raise them while "working" from home--the TV show. Jon will go sow his wild oats, try to find a job, miss the money, and the kids, and in a few years beg to come home to mommy.
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ladybugtoes |
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lolabingo - that was the most bang on post in this entire thread.
Jon wants to be a 17 year old teenager. Period. |
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Charming Nemesis |
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smartguy24 wrote:X |
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worstdog |
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^ what he said.
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barnabusb |
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The best part of the episode was when Kate wanted to rip open the pinata (even though she ripped open the others and didn't let the kids do it) and Jon
replied (to paraphrase), "FUCK NO, BITCH."
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kaizersozelives wrote:Right. As far as him cheating goes - if the stories from Jodi & Kevin are accurate, that they have been split up for awhile and have agreed to an open marriage quite some time ago, he probably truly does not believe that's cheating. |
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OK, my 1 cents here.
Jon was pretty naive if he thought he could give the appearance of stepping out on Kate in any manner or form. I think he went out to party and never gave a thought to the down stream consequences. If he had never been caught out, I think the tabloids would have zero interest in them as a couple. Happily married people do NOT make the tabloids, it isn't interesting, it won't sell papers or magazines. So he goes out, parties, whether or not he got his wiener gratified in any manner by anyone other than Kate, makes no difference. He gave the APPEARANCE that something untoward is going on. So his behavior brought this debacle on to the family. This is why I don't understand why men do this to their KIDS. When they go and fuck around, or put themselves in the position where it looks like they are fucking around, they are doing this to their KIDS, not the wives. The kids pay the ultimate price by having their nuclear family threatened or torn apart. So Jon put his family in this position. Now whether Kate's bitchy behavior drove him to it is immaterial. A man has to decide, if the marriage is over, end it FIRST with honor, and spare the collateral damage as you nuke your family. Tell the wife it is over, get your attorneys in place and begin the separation of the assets and custody arrangements. The fact that Jon did this when their family makes a LIVING at BEING a family is incredibly stupid. It threatens their financial future. Honestly, what employer would hire this guy as an IT type if they knew they got Kate and all the bullshit that went with it? That is too distracting in the work place. So how does Jon think he is going to support himself, let alone his family, if he goes solo? Have these 2 even CONSIDERED counseling? Dayum, they should both be in daily couples therapy until they get back on track. Kate's worst nightmare is right on the horizon - marriage is over, loses the show, income dries up and she now has 8 kids as a single mom working as nurse, trying to make ends meet. On top of that, she is so toxic by reputation, what eligible guy who doesn't have a dominatrix fetish would want to marry her and take on someone else's 8 kids? So she is facing a lifetime of singlehood. It is as plain as day to me.
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