Jon & Kate: Get a Hairplug and Get a Real Job!

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lilmzcan		#2221	[-]
Posts: 1250 (05/26/09 12:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Team Jon 4 me thank you. And this is why he's gone !!!!!!!!
cindidindi76		#2222	[-]
Posts: 18143 (05/26/09 12:44 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	jasbel wrote: I was never feeling any sympathy for Kate but the moment she said she wasnt going to cry because of her make up really showed me where her priorities are. Grasping a bit, are we? This thread is always good for laughs. I need to get Kate on my toe.
lilmzcan		#2223	[-]
Posts: 1251 (05/26/09 12:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
Mizdah Chiefie		#2224	[-]
Posts: 20 (05/26/09 12:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Okay, I'm on the "the two of them need to figure this out on their own" team. Neither one of them come across as good, but it's so hard to really judge either one of them based on a TV show that is edited through the ringer. Jon wants to party too much; Kate's not always the nicest person in the world. They both have their flaws and I'm sure so much of it is brought on by having cameras constantly around. http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m5d26-Jon-and-Kate-plus-8-descending-into-depression
lilmzcan		#2225	[-]
Posts: 1252 (05/26/09 12:47 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
lilmzcan		#2226	[-]
Posts: 1253 (05/26/09 12:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Team Jon FTW
ginaf20697		#2227	[-]
Posts: 35786 (05/26/09 12:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LOLABINGO wrote: What is with the "poor Jon, he had to show up because of contractual obligations" stuff? The guy isn't making a ton of money doing this show? How did he pay for his new car? He married a driven, type-A woman, who likes her ducks in a row and figured out a way for them both to stay home with their kids and provide a pretty good life, or at least financial stability. Does anyone seriously think Jon would be happier as a laid of IT guy, trying to find a way to put a new transmission in his 1989 Honda so he could get to his temp job and somehow make the rent on their tract house? When you have that many children when you are basically still a child yourself life isn't always "fun," and you aren't able to be "just Jon" when you are broke and anonymous either. I think he would be whining about now, show or no show. Cheating is a way to escape responsibility and pretend you don't have the obligations you took on. As to whether or not penis/vagina action happened before he snuck out the door of the teacher's house at 7 AM? Please. Something happened, even if it was just long whiny talks about his wife not understanding him and smoldering longing. Frankly, that would probably bother a wife more than a slam/bam. He's a boob. I haven't seen that many episodes, yesterday was the first time I watched this (part marathon and then the premier) but one episode really hit me as "this is the real Jon." The poor dog he wanted was sick and would have died. He didn't notice. Controlling Kate came home, took one look and knew something was wrong and got the dog to the vet. They do surgery and remove the toy horse, and Jon and the kids pick up the dog. The vet warns them that due to internal and external stitches the dog must be kept quiet for two weeks, no running, no jumping, standard post op care. Jon gets home and immediately lets the dog out to run and jump and wrestle with the other dog--God forbid he should bother to take care of his animal--too much "responsibility" for lazy assed free spirit Jon. "They are outside dogs, what can I do?" he whines, standing right behind the dog crate. Later he washes the filth off the stitches and then immediately gets rid of the dog again, back outside to romp around. When "controlling" Kate gets home and Jon continues to whine about "what else was I supposed to do" Kate sensibly and fairly quietly mentions putting the dog in the crate for a few days. (You know, like someone who gave a damn and had a brain would.) Jon just shrugged. So, yeah, she does seem to run a fairly tight ship, and with that many kids I honestly can't see another way to keep them clean, fed, happy, and learning...the thought of that many just exhausts me. Two are a handful...and I don't see Kate zoning out in front of soap operas while the kids run wild or beg for attention. Another run-away dad crying that his wife doesn't understand him...because no way in hell is that big baby capable of taking care of those kids on his salary and without Kate around to take care of all the boring and tedious "schedule" crap, or the show taking care of the bills. So if they split up I am pretty sure Kate will get the kids, and the show will continue as "Kate plus 8" so she can raise them while "working" from home--the TV show. Jon will go sow his wild oats, try to find a job, miss the money, and the kids, and in a few years beg to come home to mommy. FUCKING BRAVO!
LOLABINGO		#2228	[-]
Posts: 3975 (05/26/09 12:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Who doesn't want to shuck their responsibilities and just go have a "fun" life sometimes? The problem is that Jon seems wearing "grass is always greener" glasses. Trust me Jon, showing up in an office day after day, making barely enough salary to live on, and taking shit from your boss because the job market is tough right now may not be more exhausting than taking care of kids, but it's not all blue skies and freedom, and "being yourself" either. There was another moment that struck me during my mini-marathon. Jon whines (again) about how his whole life is cleaning up someone else's shit, the kids, the dogs, and he's sick of it. Poor widdle Jon. Then buddy, don't have kids, and don't have dogs.
TravelRachel		#2229	[-]
Posts: 2645 (05/26/09 1:12 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	quietsurvivorfan wrote: The fact that Jon did this when their family makes a LIVING at BEING a family is incredibly stupid. It threatens their financial future. Honestly, what employer would hire this guy as an IT type if they knew they got Kate and all the bullshit that went with it? That is too distracting in the work place. So how does Jon think he is going to support himself, let alone his family, if he goes solo? YES. You nailed it. Kate may be a complete bitch, but WTF does he think he is doing? Maybe they both suck, but I think he is the bigger fool. And I don't believe the Jodi and Keven story that Kate agreed to an open marriage some time ago. She just is the kind of woman who would NEVER agree to that, esp. while being a high profile reality TV mother. No way.
lilmzcan		#2230	[-]
Posts: 1254 (05/26/09 1:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LOL edited cause wrong thread Last Edited By: lilmzcan 05/26/09 6:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
jasbel		#2231	[-]
Posts: 1687 (05/26/09 1:29 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	IDK Kate goes to him and says I dont want to be w/you but I need you for the TV show (probably threatened to keep him away from his kids if he didnt agree). Then runs off for weeks at time w/her body guard, leaving Jon to deal w/the kids. Which he does well. She drains their bank account forcing him to use other funds. (no doubt after he bought the car) She locks him out of the house and forces him into an apartment over the garage After he is caught in a compromising situation, he releases a statement and maintains a low profile, while she goes on every talk show playing up the victim card and getting more and more martyred. Oh and also reminding ppl to buy her books (one of which her ex best friend wrote) Not justifying Jon's initial behaviour but there is more than enough justification for him to want to go out to bar (in another city). When Jon was busted he quietly released a statement and kept a low profile. Kate went on any media outlet and went from supportive wife to martyr. She put herself into situations where she could complain about Jon. Like I said neither one are perfect, but I dont think it is possible to have a good mariage dealing w/her. At least if Jon had the kids half of the time, there is a chance for them to get some nurturing. He takes an interest in the kids and doesnt use them for a prop for a career. He is by no means lazy... what impressed me early on was the way he embraced his duties w/the kids.
robbiefan		#2232	[-]
Posts: 3092 (05/26/09 1:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As much as I hate Kate, I will never side with a cheater. Fuck jon!
worstdog		#2233	[-]
Posts: 4165 (05/26/09 1:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, she may have cheated too. I wouldn't be surprised if they both have based on seeing their sheer indifference towards each other last night.
cindidindi76		#2234	[-]
Posts: 18145 (05/26/09 1:38 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kate goes to him and says I dont want to be w/you but I need you for the TV show (probably threatened to keep him away from his kids if he didnt agree). Then runs off for weeks at time w/her body guard, leaving Jon to deal w/the kids. Which he does well. She drains their bank account forcing him to use other funds. (no doubt after he bought the car) She locks him out of the house and forces him into an apartment over the garage So these are all facts?
Dharmit		#2235	[-]
Posts: 10140 (05/26/09 1:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ya.. I don't get the "Jon is lazy" angle at all. I've watched all the episodes from the beginning and Jon (according to the editing of the show) does 80% of the hands on work with the children. He is the only one to bathe and dress them. Kate does NOT do that chore. At most she would pick the clothing and prepare 1 or 2 meals a day when she is there, (which isn't often) all the while belittling and demeaning Jon and the kids. As a mom of one and a former live in aunt to three, the weekend mom to my god daughter, plus babysitting my roommates child, I took care of 6 children under the age of 5 for the first 3-5 years of their lives. I know what it's like to feed, diaper, bathe and clothe many children and it's REALLY difficult. Jon does it all with love and patience, which could not have been easy when you have a controlling, bitching shrew calling all the shots. Fuck Kate. I'm on the Jon train.
smartguy24		#2236	[-]
Posts: 4597 (05/26/09 1:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dharmit wrote: Ya.. I don't get the "Jon is lazy" angle at all. I've watched all the episodes from the beginning and Jon (according to the editing of the show) does 80% of the hands on work with the children. He is the only one to bathe and dress them. Kate does NOT do that chore. At most she would pick the clothing and prepare 1 or 2 meals a day when she is there, (which isn't often) all the while belittling and demeaning Jon and the kids. This.
SweetSassyMolassey		#2237	[-]
Posts: 928 (05/26/09 2:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dharmit wrote: Ya.. I don't get the "Jon is lazy" angle at all. I've watched all the episodes from the beginning and Jon (according to the editing of the show) does 80% of the hands on work with the children. He is the only one to bathe and dress them. Kate does NOT do that chore. At most she would pick the clothing and prepare 1 or 2 meals a day when she is there, (which isn't often) all the while belittling and demeaning Jon and the kids. X
raa66		#2238	[-]
Posts: 17636 (05/26/09 2:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ya, it's always been Kate directing Jon's work with the kids. She picks out the clothes, or belittles his choices, but he's the one on the floor with the kids. He does a lot of the cooking, all of the bathing, and whatever home projects Kate demands. I wouldn't call him lazy but he definitely is ball-less. If he had an affair, I think it was more about having one thing that Kate couldn't control. She's the general, he's the enlisted man taking orders. He's not a victim though. He let her treat him that way, with no more than the occasional eye roll or passive aggressive comment in response.
maxxfisher		#2239	[-]
Posts: 4443 (05/26/09 2:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	She said last night that he complained because he had to take care of them for 3 weeks "AND HE HAD HELPERS". Did you notice how she pointed that out? But I remember seeing her bitch & moan about having to take care of the kids when he would work all day and I'm pretty sure they have mentioned she had helpers herself. I always think it's funny how she points out how much help Jon gets but kind of dismisses the help she receives like it doesn't even exist. I saw a bit from the Harlem Globetrotter episode and whne one of them was going to spin the ball on Kate's finger he asked for her other finger and she asked why? That is just a tiny example of how controlling she is and that was to a stranger. Who cares what finger it was, he wasn't cutting it off, her was just going to spin a basketball
azcanadienne		#2240	[-]
Posts: 3007 (05/26/09 2:24 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm by no means a regular viewer - there's only so much Kate I can handle. But I do catch it often enough, and it always seems to leave me with the same impression What has always struck me is that Jon always appeared as though he would have been much happier with two/three kids, a normal job, a normal house and a normal life. I think he would have been perfectly content to live his whole life as just an IT guy and support his small but normal family. Of course, everything changed with six babies and all the media attention that came with them - but I think it's the situation that has molded him into what he is today - it's not what he would have chosen for himself. Granted, there is nothing to excuse in some of his behavior (if true) - but I can certainly understand wanting to escape the ridiculousness of their situation. I can't help but wonder if he still would've wanted a "weekend off" from planning the birthday party, if it hadn't involved a camera crew, "P-people" (oh puh-leeze) and the rest of the media circus that went along with it. Not to mention the fact that it wasn't really their bithday - it was a party for the show's benefit Whereas Kate......she loves it all! And always wants more more more more more more! It's all about HER and her time in the spotlight And it's interesting - in real life discussions with other people about J&K, I've noticed people (mostly women) who are shrill, controlling shrews in their own lives (or at least have a bit of shrill controlling shrew in them), side with Kate - and those who are not, side with Jon....or don't really care one way or the other Me - I'm on Team +8, but if forced to choose between the two....Jon's faaaaaaaaaaaaaar more tolerable than Kate.

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