So to finish off the MTV debate in which I was

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star jumper		#21	[-]
Posts: 41487 (06/26/09 7:46 AM) I'm an ugly Yeti King Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TC wrote: Good thing I donT shower. Most whores don't.
Angela in WI		#22	[-]
Posts: 26169 (06/26/09 7:47 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I did not shower this morning.
ag		#23	[-]
Posts: 5624 (06/26/09 7:48 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't even know what MTV means
E Love 9		#24	[-]
Posts: 2305 (06/26/09 7:48 AM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PieceOfSquash wrote: speaking of misguided hairstyles of former mtv reporters... did anyone see john norris on cnn last night? ick. Yeah, what was that? It looked terrible. And then in one of the video pieces they showed an old interview with him with normal hair and it looked even worse after seeing that.
El Bingo Gringo		#25	[-]
Posts: 3128 (06/27/09 10:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	really?
Ann Margret Thatcher		#26	[-]
Posts: 8036 (06/27/09 11:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Second...no mj was NOT the first black artist on MTV as so many morons stated. No the thriller video did not come out in 82. And NO MJ WAS NOT A PIONEER IN RACE RELATIONS. No one said the Thriller video came out in 82. The Thriller video came in late 83, I think. Anyway, the Thriller album came out in November of 82 and Billie Jean was the first video single. It's the one that MTV refused to play because they said it didn't fit their rock format. It's more a matter of MJ forcing MTV to incorporate R&B music than anything to do w/ race. White kids were already buying Jackson's records even before MTV came along. It's not comparable to white kids of the 50s all of sudden buying Ray Charles and Little Richard records for the first time. I think the racial element of this non-argument is covered quite well in the SSerena chapter of the MJ RIP thread.
TC		#27	[-]
Posts: 61 (06/27/09 11:06 PM) irst etter issing Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I stopped reading that thread when the twittertards took over.
Ann Margret Thatcher		#28	[-]
Posts: 8038 (06/27/09 11:09 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, it got much much worse after that. Or funnier, depending on your mood.
NickF227		#29	[-]
Posts: 9726 (06/27/09 11:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CBRetriever wrote: I think I came in later in the thread and basically agreed that he wasn't the first - and his music was definitely outside their format at the time, which was straight rock and roll w/o very much pop music in the mix however, after his videos were proven to be money makers (they were better than a lot of the videos around at the time) and popular, more and more black artists' videos were played on MTV I think what really ruined MTV was getting away from videos and having more and more "shows" instead of music - I can remember when I used to leave it on as background music. Do they even play videos anymore? They do, but only in the morning. 'MTV AM". Kinda like VH1's Jump Start.
CBRetriever		#30	[-]
Posts: 28261 (06/27/09 11:12 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I have to work then - I really haven't seen a music video in years and I used to leave it on that channel a lot for background music
NickF227		#31	[-]
Posts: 9727 (06/27/09 11:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As in morning, I mean like 2 am to 6 am.
Fucking Sucks		#32	[-]
Posts: 1915 (06/28/09 1:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MTV's minimal music video programming is just as pathetic as their non-music shows. This whole thing about MTV refusing to play Michael Jackson's shit because it wasn't rock 'n roll is funny. What the fuck was so "rock 'n roll" about "Video Killed the Radio Star"?
GameShowMyAss		#33	[-]
Posts: 4617 (06/28/09 1:46 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I dunno, but Pa-Be played after the Rays game tonight and I didn't bother to stay. Love is a boringfield. GO RAYS
Pseudo Propaganda		#34	[-]
Posts: 2459 (06/28/09 1:46 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PieceOfSquash wrote: speaking of misguided hairstyles of former mtv reporters... did anyone see john norris on cnn last night? ick. I saw John Norris in the locker room at NYSC in Chelsea one time. He is just as fucked up looking in real life as he is on TV.
GameShowMyAss		#35	[-]
Posts: 4618 (06/28/09 1:50 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is that the gap-toothed freak who could barely read the prompter? Kurt Loder should have heaved his freaky ass unto MP's balcony. years ago
Pseudo Propaganda		#36	[-]
Posts: 2460 (06/28/09 1:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He always reminded me of Frankenstein a bit. Like if he had big bolts sticking out of his neck when I saw him at the gym I wouldn't have even done a double take.
GnarlsInCharge		#37	[-]
Posts: 3725 (06/28/09 1:59 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TC wrote: No. What ruined MTV was being mainstream. When was MTV not Mainstream? Aside from occasional college radio videos on 120 Minutes which was 2 hours a week really late at night, the channel has always been an outlet for whoever was popular on the top 40 and also with the youth oriented demographic.
robbiefan		#38	[-]
Posts: 3413 (06/28/09 9:15 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TRL killed MTV. Let it be said.
TC		#39	[-]
Posts: 64 (06/28/09 9:47 AM) irst etter issing Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Like I said before, the first year or so they played Lena lovich, clash, pretenders, squeeze, plasmatics, and tons of new wave/alternative music. Some of those artsts went mainstream later. But at the time, they were not.
unkle greggo		#40	[-]
Posts: 4206 (06/28/09 9:50 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	kinghouseplant wrote: MTV was ruined when YO! MTV RAPS was cancelled. :ed lover dance: They cancelled the one hour rap show, because for the other 23 hours a day they were playing rap videos.

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