Harper's Island--Decent Summer Slasher

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maldoror122		#4901	[-]
Posts: 7018 (06/29/09 7:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	No love for Abby Abby and Henry <3
tullfan2		#4902	[-]
Posts: 3530 (06/29/09 7:48 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Coachocd wrote: Making suggested changes and adding the reference to J.D.'s hairline and whether or not he was ill. --------------- - What happened to the $250,000 that wasn't burned up my Malcolm? - Just what did Uncle Marty want $50,000 to keep quiet about? - How did the groomsmen so conveniently find Hunter's boat? Does that mean a groomsman was in on it? - Why did Richard or someone else check out the old issues of the Globe? - Just how was Katherine killed so up close to the wall or Beth taken with no one hearing a thing? - Who killed Cousin Ben Wellington? - What was Hunter going to tell Trish about if he didn't get money? - Why did Wellington want to stop the wedding. Obviously, it'll be about Henry and not that he was from the wrong side of the tracks -Trish already knew that. - What happend to Henry's parents? - What about J.D. looking in the mirror and his hairline? Was he ill? - Why was Uncle Marty raising them? - Why were some bodies hung or placed for display and other's just disappeared? - Who unlocked JD out of the pantry? - Which killer shot the Deputy so JD could escape from jail? - What is the meaning of the Ave Maria phone calls? - Why did Maggie assume she was safe when everyone else was scared? Was she just convinced that Nikki's safe entrance meant the "locals" were safe (despite Jimmy being blown up) or was she in on Wakefield's scheme as a helper and expected to be kept safe? - Did Booth really shoot himself in the forest or did Wakefield or someone else follow him and kill him for the money? - Why the ink in Kelly's eyes? Dramatic commentary like Brandy playing on the jukebox? - Karim tweeted that Gigi is safe, where will we see her again? - Why did Wakefield let Jimmy live (MULTIPLE TIMES) when he so easily killed others? - Why does Henry have that creepy, "I'm Wakefield's kid who's also a psychokiller so watch out" stare all the time? - Who is the screaming man in the Week 2 trailer they showed us. (Is he under the Native American burial grounds that Jimmy used to take Abby?) - Who was really buried in Wakefield's grave and does it affect this story at al? - Who has been visiting Wakefield's grave and leaving candles? Could it be a relative or loved one of the person who is really buried in that grave? For Harper's Globe fans -- - Who is this random dead person who was in front of Brent's House on Harper's Globe? - Was that Henry's voice in the last episode saying he was behind her? Other questions to add: Who broke Trish's mom's China? Why did Madison take the Tower tarot card from the psychic and what significance does it have? Who came at Danny/Sully with that hollowed out narrow pipe (it wasn't Wakefield's boarding knife) at the blocked up tunnel entrance in the pantry? It couldn't have been Wakefield. He was near the sewage drain keeping an eye on Chloe. If it had been Wakefield, he would have emerged and killed the two of them. All the other suspects were supposedly accounted for at the time.
Gregoire		#4903	[-]
Posts: 33430 (06/29/09 8:04 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	With Cal and Chloe gone, my heart is no longer in this, and I could honestly care less who the killer is. Blow the whole fucking island up for all I care.
cookie		#4904	[-]
Posts: 20 (06/29/09 8:21 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Who came at Danny/Sully with that hollowed out narrow pipe (it wasn't Wakefield's boarding knife) at the blocked up tunnel entrance in the pantry? It couldn't have been Wakefield. He was near the sewage drain keeping an eye on Chloe. If it had been Wakefield, he would have emerged and killed the two of them. All the other suspects were supposedly accounted for at the time. Pretty sure it is Wakefield. The practicality of running and crawling all over the island is out the window. If it was another person -that would be an intended surprise and the 101 writing would indicate such with Danny saying, "That HAS to be Wakefield!" and then a quick cut to Wakefield somewhere else.
Que		#4905	[-]
Posts: 1431 (06/29/09 9:07 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Vinsincere wrote: 2. When the sheriff told Abby that "Jimmy's the one for you" it was a coded message because Jimmy was listening on the radio. Jimmy actually committed all the murders until Wakefield's entrance and now he's taking a breather. OMFG! please tell me HOW in the HELL Jimmy could be in the truck, getting ready to yank the Sheriff to his death AND laying unconcious at the Cannery with Shane, Trish, Shea, Madison and Nikki nursing him? THX you DREW for pointing out that there is NO way in HELL that JIMMY could have known Wakefield in Prison. HELLO he was put in prison 24 years ago! (was in prison for 17 years...got out and killed then dissappeared for 7 years) ABBY is 24 and JIMMY is (25?) seriously think about the time line and the story that we know before you post every bullshit thought that enters your brain! I am still not convienced that wakefield has an acomplice. BUT...he is yelling to someone in hte promo. oh.... Who came at Danny/Sully with that hollowed out narrow pipe (it wasn't Wakefield's boarding knife) at the blocked up tunnel entrance in the pantry? Pretty sure it was Wakefield...he had a Harpoon type knife with a long steel handle. Why not kill them...they are unimportant and messing with them was just fun. and... WHY didn't Henry/Abby shoot at wakefield when he was on the bridge? Well...they had shotguns, you don't get much distance with a shotgun, No way they would have hit him. YOu'd need a deer rifle. ALL the guns at the Candlewick were shotguns used for skeet/sporting clays the ammo is LIGHT bird shot. Even a direct hit wouldn't kill you unless you were in REAL close range. (anyone remember Chenny's bird hunting trip?) SO..I think it was conserve ammo... we can't hit him at this range type of thinking! Last Edited By: Que 06/29/09 9:14 AM. Edited 1 times.
Utopian		#4906	[-]
Posts: 5894 (06/29/09 9:30 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I feel like this show is now a completely different Not so. That so-called bingo card was from the very beginning planned misdirection by the writers. What is amazing is how many folk bought into it -- questionable detective skills on many folks' parts is all that was.
urock7		#4907	[-]
Posts: 102 (06/29/09 9:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I agree with Gregoire....I was only watching it for the story of Cal and Cloe! I'm done!! Boo...... Poorly done. Can't we have just one show where things end great for someone?? eeesh. (love the scene where Cloe gets her ring back! I love it!)
cabanachat		#4908	[-]
Posts: 3127 (06/29/09 10:02 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MANY people wrote: - Just what did Uncle Marty want $50,000 to keep quiet about? Wasn't that actually HUNTER?
pjadedd		#4909	[-]
Posts: 9768 (06/29/09 10:11 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urock7 wrote: I agree with Gregoire....I was only watching it for the story of Cal and Cloe! I'm done!! Boo...... Poorly done. Can't we have just one show where things end great for someone?? eeesh. (love the scene where Cloe gets her ring back! I love it!) There's one more week left. Might as well see how this shitfest ends. With the actual murder mystery fizzling out, does anyone have any good suggestions for murder mystery books? I know there was some talk about Agatha Christie novels, but I want to read one that hasn't been spoiled on here.
Drew B		#4910	[-]
Posts: 5827 (06/29/09 10:46 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Que wrote: WHY didn't Henry/Abby shoot at wakefield when he was on the bridge? Well...they had shotguns, you don't get much distance with a shotgun, No way they would have hit him. YOu'd need a deer rifle. ALL the guns at the Candlewick were shotguns used for skeet/sporting clays the ammo is LIGHT bird shot. Even a direct hit wouldn't kill you unless you were in REAL close range. (anyone remember Chenny's bird hunting trip?) SO..I think it was conserve ammo... we can't hit him at this range type of thinking! Also, shotguns scatter their ammo (buckshot). They couldn't have hit Wakefield without also hitting Cal (at least) and/or Chloe.
Coachocd		#4911	[-]
Posts: 7801 (06/29/09 10:50 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	pjadedd wrote: urock7 wrote: I agree with Gregoire....I was only watching it for the story of Cal and Cloe! I'm done!! Boo...... Poorly done. Can't we have just one show where things end great for someone?? eeesh. (love the scene where Cloe gets her ring back! I love it!) There's one more week left. Might as well see how this shitfest ends. With the actual murder mystery fizzling out, does anyone have any good suggestions for murder mystery books? I know there was some talk about Agatha Christie novels, but I want to read one that hasn't been spoiled on here. The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, written in 1914, is considered her breakthrough novel. It's a great place to start. cabanachat wrote: MANY people wrote: - Just what did Uncle Marty want $50,000 to keep quiet about? Wasn't that actually HUNTER? Good point. Thanks for the correction.
Understandermant		#4912	[-]
Posts: 117 (06/29/09 11:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think the killer is either Trish or Shea. Sherrif: You're MY daughter. Look at how he enphasized my. It would mean that Wakefield has a daughter. Shea? I think so.
Understandermant		#4913	[-]
Posts: 118 (06/29/09 11:28 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivorNinja wrote: 1. Ben - Everyone still a suspect 2. Marty - Everyone is still possible 3. Fain - All Still possible 4. Kelly - Nikki was off the hook at this point but she dead now 5. Lucy - Anyone but Nikki at this point 6. Hunter - Anyone but Nikki still 7. Booth - Killed himself 8. Thomas - Anyone but Nikki still 9. Richard - Anyone but Nikki and Madison 10. Malcolm - Anyone but Nikki and Madison still 11. Jail Guard - Everyone still suspect but Nikki, Madison, Shane and JD 12. Cole - Sheriff off the hook with other 4, everyone else suspect 13. JD - Everyone suspect but Nikki, Madison, Shane and Sheriff 14. Beth - We never saw her wander off, could have been with anyone at the time 15. Katherine - see Beth. Everyone suspect still but Nikki, Shane, Madison and Sheriff 16. Maggie - This still could have been Jimmy's work but everyone else was accounted for I believe It was still possible for it to be a Bingo Card character until Maggie died if i'm not mistaken. Jimmy couldn't have killed cousin Ben. He was on the Island. I dont even know if Jimmy knew about the wedding or if it was a surprise.
SurvivorNinja		#4914	[-]
Posts: 915 (06/29/09 11:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Understandermant wrote: SurvivorNinja wrote: 1. Ben - Everyone still a suspect 2. Marty - Everyone is still possible 3. Fain - All Still possible 4. Kelly - Nikki was off the hook at this point but she dead now 5. Lucy - Anyone but Nikki at this point 6. Hunter - Anyone but Nikki still 7. Booth - Killed himself 8. Thomas - Anyone but Nikki still 9. Richard - Anyone but Nikki and Madison 10. Malcolm - Anyone but Nikki and Madison still 11. Jail Guard - Everyone still suspect but Nikki, Madison, Shane and JD 12. Cole - Sheriff off the hook with other 4, everyone else suspect 13. JD - Everyone suspect but Nikki, Madison, Shane and Sheriff 14. Beth - We never saw her wander off, could have been with anyone at the time 15. Katherine - see Beth. Everyone suspect still but Nikki, Shane, Madison and Sheriff 16. Maggie - This still could have been Jimmy's work but everyone else was accounted for I believe It was still possible for it to be a Bingo Card character until Maggie died if i'm not mistaken. Jimmy couldn't have killed cousin Ben. He was on the Island. I dont even know if Jimmy knew about the wedding or if it was a surprise. ..but if the writers wanted the killer to be Jimmy they could easily make it so after Ben's death by making it so he went to the mainland did that to Ben and then went back to Harper's Island before the wedding party got on board. My points were that until Wakefield showed up we were under the impression there was one killer and it was one of the 25 suspects. Nikki was off the hook after Kelly's death because no one else was there when she found the body so it would be bad writing for her to find Kelly like she did and stil have her be the killer. Madison was inside the house and Richard saw her when he died so she was off the hook after his death. Shane and JD were in jail for the guards death (not to mention Shane was in jail for Malcolm and Richard's deaths as well) so they were off the hook. Sheriff was inside Cole's cabin when Cole died so he was off the hook at that point. Until Maggie's death (and I guess arguably Beth and Katherine's) those were the only people who COULD NOT have done the killings. Everyone else still, by some stretch, could have done it.
Cuauhtemoc Gilmore		#4915	[-]
Posts: 19099 (06/29/09 11:56 AM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: With Cal and Chloe gone, my heart is no longer in this, and I could honestly care less who the killer is. Blow the whole fucking island up for all I care.
Que		#4916	[-]
Posts: 1432 (06/29/09 12:04 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Understandermant wrote: I think the killer is either Trish or Shea. Sherrif: You're MY daughter. Look at how he enphasized my. It would mean that Wakefield has a daughter. Shea? I think so. As stated before... the way the Sheriff said NEVER forget you are MY duaghter could be taken AS...Although I am not your biological Father, I rasied you and YOU are MY Daughter (I never you as anything else) etc... That line has been used in mant soap opera/drama show etc .... Jimmy did seem surprized to Abby whn she got off the boat. I am sure most of the locals knew of the BIG WELLINTON wedding though. Sheriff was inside Cole's cabin when Cole died so he was off the hook at that point. Until Maggie's death (and I guess arguably Beth and Katherine's) those were the only people who COULD NOT have done the killings. Everyone else still, by some stretch, could have done it. Actually at COLE Harkins death was when people figured out something was up... JD and Shane were in jail, deputy shot and JD escaped. The sheriff was inside.... Jimmy and Abby were together....Cal,Chole,Sully, and Beth were together getting on the boat... Danny was with Shea and Madison at the Candlewick....Henry and Trish were together....freed Shane from jail. Ever sense that episode everyone has had an alibi they were never alone...thus Wakefield was brought in as the killer.
Regardless		#4917	[-]
Posts: 166 (06/29/09 12:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	pjadedd wrote: urock7 wrote: I agree with Gregoire....I was only watching it for the story of Cal and Cloe! I'm done!! Boo...... Poorly done. Can't we have just one show where things end great for someone?? eeesh. (love the scene where Cloe gets her ring back! I love it!) There's one more week left. Might as well see how this shitfest ends. With the actual murder mystery fizzling out, does anyone have any good suggestions for murder mystery books? I know there was some talk about Agatha Christie novels, but I want to read one that hasn't been spoiled on here. I too am turning in this last week only because it's the last episode. My curiosity always has me making bad decisions. In terms of a murder mystery, this recommendation may be juvenile, but there's an older book that I enjoyed when I was younger and reread it within the last 2 months and it still held up was "The Westing Game" (I forget the author's name as well as how to underline book titles). I found it in a box of my belongings I took from my parents' home the last time I was there. It'll probably be a quick read for you PJ. As for Agatha Christie murder mysteries, Public Television is showing a new Agatha Christie murder mystery movie each Sunday night. Last night was "Mrs. McGinty's Dead", and it wasn't bad. Next week is "Pocket Full of Rye." The problem with Agatha Christie murder mysteries that I have is that I never have correctly suspected the actual murderer. You're a better guess than me, so you'll probably have much greater luck with her mysteries, books or movies, than me. (I did like the Poirot mysteries "Cards on the Table" and "Dead Man's Folly" I guess).
Drew B		#4918	[-]
Posts: 5830 (06/29/09 12:12 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Que wrote: Actually at COLE Harkins death was when people figured out something was up... JD and Shane were in jail, deputy shot and JD escaped. The sheriff was inside.... Jimmy and Abby were together....Cal,Chole,Sully, and Beth were together getting on the boat... Danny was with Shea and Madison at the Candlewick....Henry and Trish were together....freed Shane from jail. Ever sense that episode everyone has had an alibi they were never alone...thus Wakefield was brought in as the killer. Thank you. Slight correction, though. Henry had left Trish with Shea/Madison/Danny and headed to the marina after Beth/Sully/Cal/Chloe. Henry was alone, but the time frame wouldn't make sense for him to have gotten to Harkin's cabin, killed him, and still made it to the marina so soon after Beth/Sully/Cal/Chloe...
SurvivorNinja		#4919	[-]
Posts: 916 (06/29/09 12:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Que wrote: Understandermant wrote: I think the killer is either Trish or Shea. Sherrif: You're MY daughter. Look at how he enphasized my. It would mean that Wakefield has a daughter. Shea? I think so. As stated before... the way the Sheriff said NEVER forget you are MY duaghter could be taken AS...Although I am not your biological Father, I rasied you and YOU are MY Daughter (I never you as anything else) etc... That line has been used in mant soap opera/drama show etc .... Jimmy did seem surprized to Abby whn she got off the boat. I am sure most of the locals knew of the BIG WELLINTON wedding though. Sheriff was inside Cole's cabin when Cole died so he was off the hook at that point. Until Maggie's death (and I guess arguably Beth and Katherine's) those were the only people who COULD NOT have done the killings. Everyone else still, by some stretch, could have done it. Actually at COLE Harkins death was when people figured out something was up... JD and Shane were in jail, deputy shot and JD escaped. The sheriff was inside.... Jimmy and Abby were together....Cal,Chole,Sully, and Beth were together getting on the boat... Danny was with Shea and Madison at the Candlewick....Henry and Trish were together....freed Shane from jail. Ever sense that episode everyone has had an alibi they were never alone...thus Wakefield was brought in as the killer. Right but as I said it could be still stretched that the timelines were different and things were happening at different times than we were shown. The only time I ever took anyone off the hook is when they were reacting alone or they were in the scene when someone died.
Tiki Lou		#4920	[-]
Posts: 563 (06/29/09 12:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm almost embarrassed to say this because I'm usually a cynical bastard... but I'm still sad about the whole Cal/Chloe thing. The desperation in Cal's voice when he was calling to her was such a contrast to the search parties looking for Madison and calling for her like the Brady's looking for Bobby and Cindy in the Grand Canyon. He was so believeable in that And Chloe's uncontrollable sobbing when Cal finally found her was the most authentic crying in the series (and considering that none of her family was murdered, that's pretty sad for the rest of the characters). I think what some people are forgetting is that these people are seasoned soldiers who do things rationally in a state of panic. Just shooting blindly would have seemed to be enough to keep someone at bay. Both Trish and Cal had an advantage in that respect, Trish with the door and Cal with the fence, to limit Wakefield's movement so their aim would be truer. But panic makes them shoot first and ask questions later... sad. And who knows... maybe Wakefield fucked with the aims of the guns (it's a stretch, I know) so that's why he was so confident he wouldn't be hit. I don't know... I'm just trying to rationlize why people are acting so dumb on the island and why my two favorite characters had to die. I don't care who survives anymore even though that dumbfuck Abby will live and do some stupid soliloquy... fuck her and her pinched face ass I'll just keep listening to that Letters From the Sky song and imagining Cal and Chloe sailing off to Hawaii, Chloe with the captain's hat on her head and both drinking martinis and talking about their wedding on the beach

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