The fact that the producers of this show are all "OMG BEST SHOW EVER! GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT OF MY LIFE!" really makes me hate the ending even more.
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Harper's Island--Decent Summer Slasher
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Posts: 10728 (07/13/09 2:01 PM) Registered user |
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The Annoying Hater |
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Posts: 1736 (07/13/09 2:15 PM) |
Que wrote: In retrospect though, once the Wakefield rise from the dead debacle happened I would have preferred Madison as his child and assistant over any other scenario left. She looks creepy, and they could have said when Wakefield first came to Harper's that he impregnated Shea, and that the Wellington's kept it a secret. There's your motive, and your twist. |
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Blueberry |
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Posts: 308 (07/13/09 2:42 PM) I REALLY don't take hints. |
I really think peeps suspected Henry but im sure those ppl suspected others at one point or another.. I know I suspected Trish, Shea, Sully, Jimmy, Henry and
yes even Danny at one point. He was really suspicious on episode 12, the way he didn't want Wakefield shot or Sully to touch him was really odd. Maybe
Henry had Danny in on it? That Cannery scene was very telling imo... Everyone was suspicious at least once
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Posts: 346 (07/13/09 2:44 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!!
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Does anybody else see this show coming back in about 7 years with something like this:
My name is Madison Allen 7 years ago all my friends and family except for my mom were killed by John Wakefield and my soon to be uncle in law. Now I'm back for (some random event) and its my first time on the island since the murders. I would love that! So excited for the DVD! |
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pjadedd |
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Posts: 9871 (07/13/09 2:44 PM) Registered User |
The show jumped the shark once Wakefield was revealed to be alive because it made the past how many ever weeks completely pointless.
The only acceptable endings would've been as follows: The butler did it Someone had an evil twin Yvette was somehow involved It was the Singing Telegram Girl Mrs. Peacock was a man |
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cookie |
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Posts: 81 (07/13/09 2:53 PM) |
in terms of basic writing, with the teaser and first act -it had to be Abby, Henry or Trish.
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Posts: 1975 (07/13/09 2:54 PM) Registered user |
Que wrote:See, that didn't bother me one bit. Henry is a batshit murderous crazed psychopath, so what is a little incestuous longing thrown in the mix? Slaughtering people he supposedly was friends with and loved is much worse than having sexual longings for someone that he didn't know he was related to until he was around 18-20 years old or so. Henry wasn't raised with Abby as his sister and wouldn't have even known she was his sister if he never ran into Wakefield and found out Abby was his half-sister. Obviously, Henry had a thing for Abby his whole life, so I guess he had a hard time turning those feelings off . . . after all, he is a nut job. Heck, with sperm banks, adoptions, etc., I wouldn't be surprised if there has been unknowing "incest" going on between people who may not know that they are somehow blood related though they never knew each other. People living together as a family and having sex is incest, IMO, whether or not you are blood related. Example: Woody Allen and his adopted daughter Soon Yi. Disgusting. I digress, but Henry lusting after Abby didn't bother me a bit since IMO it took a backseat to him murdering Trish (his fiance & childhood sweetheart), Sully (best friend), and others that he pretended to be close with and didn't do anything to him to deserve a bad word, let alone painful death. |
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Posts: 1828 (07/13/09 3:33 PM) |
th two things that bothered me the most was
A) the mother had henry dropped him off for adoption somewhere kept this all hidden from everybody , met the sheriff got knocked up and had abby. B) the sheriff in the middle of a serial killers rampage realizes that he didnt kill Wakefield, so instead of keeping the townies on alert that there is still a serial killer around, he decides to cover the serial killers tracks by pretending that he was dead. Therefore allowing Wakefield to kill unknowing townies in secret. Way to protect your townspeople dick |
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Posts: 3583 (07/13/09 3:49 PM) Registered User |
If you drop the idea that Harper's Island was a murder mystery and instead treat it as horror show, then I don't see there being any problem with
Wakefield being brought into the show. There is no logic to the murders for shows in the horror genre, the killers are just supposed to be psychotic and
menacing or creepy. Henry was a variation on Norman Bates. Just like with Norman Bates, you could tell that something was off with Henry from the start but
you needed to watch to completion to see what it was.
If CBS had promoted Harper's Island strictly as a horror program rather than a murder mystery there wouldn't have been so much complaining about Wakefield being alive and the eventual outcome. Viewers wouldn't have spent so much time looking for clues and trying to determine who the killer(s) is(are) from analyzing everything that happened on the show. On the other hand, I guess the false promotion worked because I doubt that viewers would have been so addicted to the show if CBS had told the truth initially that Harper's Island was really a horror show. |
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DS51 |
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Posts: 290 (07/13/09 4:18 PM) Registered user |
cookie wrote: |
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Posts: 74 (07/13/09 4:36 PM) |
B) the sheriff in the middle of a serial killers rampage realizes that he didnt kill Wakefield, so instead of keeping the townies on alert that there is still a serial killer around, he decides to cover the serial killers tracks by pretending that he was dead. Therefore allowing Wakefield to kill unknowing townies in secret. Way to protect your townspeople dickNot only that, but if he had let outside authorities know, then Wakefield would have been on the FBI's most wanted list and might have been picked up during the period he was schooling Henry in killing. Pretty irresponsible. |
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colby parker |
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Posts: 22 (07/13/09 4:41 PM) |
I wish they had showed Henry actually killing the people. So are we to believe he only killed the priest, JD, Richard, and Katherine as he told Sully? So,
Daddy killed everyone else? I wish they would have told us if Booth accidentally shot himself or was killed (still think that was the lamest death)-if he got
shot why didn't Fatty get hit? When Henry told Sully about the money test with Malcolm; he should have added yea he buried Booth and kept the money so I
cut his fat ass up and threw him in the furnace....lol
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LPMA |
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Posts: 4396 (07/13/09 4:46 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
I'm pretty sure Booth's death was accidental.
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cookie |
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Posts: 82 (07/13/09 4:52 PM) |
Henry's character wasn't who I felt sorry for... it was Zreik.
I have no problem with it being Henry or the motivation. I think that's great. Deranged, twisted -but it's rooted in an emotional need. Perfect. Fine, exactly what you need for the McGuffin of the killer. Let's just call Henry's motivation X (doesn't matter what it is). X has to be defined and then worked backwards from what the writers want the payoff to be. It just needs to be smarter in how to get to that ending so the viewer is caught up in the ending and not questioning all the holes while the ending is happening. If they need JD out of that jail cell, then they need to be smarter in how he gets out and why he wasn't killed. How the killers were smart and not just lucky that everything goes according to a dramatic plan. The survivors (especially Final Girl) has to begin to figure things out or become clever with enough information where it will surprise us when she outfoxes the killer. It was just a lazy cut and paste job with some good performances scattered through. This is the problem with all the slasher flicks too. They're mostly masturbatory just watching the countless people being knocked off and we already know who's going to be at the end fighting the killer. There's nothing wrong with the rollercoaster ride of a horror movie, but why can't they be smart too and play and tituate the viewer's expectations? And if there is the Final Girl put her in a situation that is impossible to get out of and then see her trump the viewer and the killer. |
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colby parker |
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Posts: 23 (07/13/09 4:55 PM) |
-- A little shout out to the Twitter fans who followed me, Chris Gorham, Ali, Brandon, Ben, CJ, Bobby Sizemore, Gina, Sandy Bookstaver, etc. Your enthusiasm
for the show was the reason I joined, AND to answer all your very elaborate questions, AND to find Dean Chekvala a girlfriend. In that order.
"You're awesome" doesn't even come close to describing how I feel about you guys.
Where do I sign up for this???? |
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Blueberry |
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Posts: 309 (07/13/09 5:11 PM) I REALLY don't take hints. |
I am following Henry,danny,Shane,Jimmy and NIKKI on twitter!!!! None reply to me though, I hate that "follow me" rule, so they have to follow me to
reply? LAME!
Karim replied a few times though, good guy! About this bitching about wanting to see flashbacks of Henry killing everyone? We can't complain about that because we were told that the cast didn't know when they were getting killed off and the producers informed Chris(Henry) during shooting of episode 8 that he was the killer... half of the characters were gonzo at that point lol |
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pjadedd |
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Posts: 9874 (07/13/09 5:17 PM) Registered User |
Yeah, I can still complain. It isn't even the flashbacks so much as the total lack of explanation. And, seriously, that's something they should've
thought about. When the people were told they were getting killed off, they could've easily been told they may be needed for the finale in terms of showing
what happened.
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Blueberry |
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Posts: 310 (07/13/09 5:20 PM) I REALLY don't take hints. |
I see your point there, or once they were killed off they should have been told who was the killer and then they should have shot the death scene.
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CoconutPhone |
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Posts: 17057 (07/13/09 5:25 PM) Registered user |
Which defeats the purpose of telling no one but Christopher. They'd have to keep the secret too. The fewer people who knew the better the chance of keeping
it a secret.
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5924 (07/13/09 6:47 PM) Registered User |
They could have gone back and re-shot death scenes weeks/months later with Gorham, but that would have cost a fortune.
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