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Kym		#521	[-]
Posts: 2635 (05/21/09 8:36 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	peanuts4444 wrote: Yah that was totally ripped from the Robert Pickton pig farm... it happened near Vancouver BC I don't think Hotch is dead... he is not dead ......he was telling us about his day
peanuts4444		#522	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/21/09 9:47 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The shooter in Hotch's apartment was the guy from earlier in the season...played by C. Thomas Howell ( and they screwed that up by putting his name in the credits LOL) He was the serial killer, killed people in their cars... he made it look like he was the only living victim, but he was really the killer, he had a deal with the original cop that if he didn't kill again the cop wouldn't look for him, Hotch wouldn't make the same deal
Kym		#523	[-]
Posts: 2637 (05/21/09 10:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	DOH thanks for that <3
VolumeOn		#524	[-]
Posts: 1319 (05/21/09 3:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	peanuts4444 wrote: The shooter in Hotch's apartment was the guy from earlier in the season...played by C. Thomas Howell ( and they screwed that up by putting his name in the credits LOL) He was the serial killer, killed people in their cars... he made it look like he was the only living victim, but he was really the killer, he had a deal with the original cop that if he didn't kill again the cop wouldn't look for him, Hotch wouldn't make the same deal That's what I thought, too, when he told Hotch he should've taken the deal but I thought he was killed at the end of that episode.
peanuts4444		#525	[-]
Posts: 777 (05/21/09 3:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	No they arrested him and he then escaped.....
VolumeOn		#526	[-]
Posts: 1320 (05/21/09 4:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Ah, I forgot that part.
TAR Addict		#527	[-]
Posts: 668 (05/21/09 5:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	peanuts4444 wrote: The shooter in Hotch's apartment was the guy from earlier in the season...played by C. Thomas Howell ( and they screwed that up by putting his name in the credits LOL) He was the serial killer, killed people in their cars... he made it look like he was the only living victim, but he was really the killer, he had a deal with the original cop that if he didn't kill again the cop wouldn't look for him, Hotch wouldn't make the same deal ohhh ok. i didnt see that episode
MsJulieR		#528	[-]
Posts: 5828 (05/22/09 11:22 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	OK, great, I remember that but, very faintly...I hate when they go back so far..
Willy2Fun		#529	[-]
Posts: 2366 (05/22/09 12:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think this show was based largley on 'The Willie Picton Trial' (murders of prostitutes and feeding them to the pigs outside of Vancouver)..it's been a HUGE story up here and I'm sure it's been in the news in the States. Picton is 'somewhat slow' and has a brother, they own a Pig Farm, several East-side prostitutes were taken out there 'and are missing/presumed killed by Picton'...bones and 'items' were dug up at the Pig Farm..etc..etc... So, there were SO many similarities except the obvious added highlights and trimming parts. Very familiar , I thought I was watching the documentary with changes. Very creepy. It was a very well done episode and I loved Kelly ? talking to the 'slow' brother and trying to work his mind to get to her freedom.
myclititches		#530	[-]
Posts: 33 (05/22/09 4:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	EllaMentary wrote: I think it's based on the pig farmer in British Columbia who preyed on at risk women (prostitutes, druggies, drunks) that the police didn't take seriously even though they should have known. Hotch better be back! That's totally what it reminded me of. The Picton pig farm in BC. Picton only went after transients, it took years for the cops to even notice.
sassycanuck		#531	[-]
Posts: 119 (05/22/09 5:03 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I love how all the Canadians right away related it to the Robert Pickton case in BC. That's the first thing I thought of when I watched this episode too. Very much similar cases. As always, this show provides big cliffhangers for the summer. I'm interested for the next season to start already!
SmrtAss		#532	[-]
Posts: 6090 (05/25/09 12:52 AM) Lazy ass bitch, please Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In April Thomas Gibson posted this to a fan site: http://criminalmindsfanatic.blogspot.com/2009/04/criminal-minds-note-from-thomas-gibson.html Hi CM Fans, Thomas here. I just wanted to say that in response to all the conversation on the blog, that I love playing A. Hotchner on Criminal Minds; that we have the best crew, cast, writers, and production staff in the world. I have loved working on the show for four seasons and look forward to many more. I realize that none of this could happen without the support of our fantastic fans. We count ourselves very lucky to have so dedicated and enthusiastic an audience as you. Thanks for watching and we look forward to providing you with great shows for a long time to come. - Thomas Gibson Don't know if that means Hotch is not dead, just thought I'd throw it out there.
anders332		#533	[-]
Posts: 1894 (05/25/09 5:59 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	peanuts4444 wrote: The shooter in Hotch's apartment was the guy from earlier in the season...played by C. Thomas Howell ( and they screwed that up by putting his name in the credits LOL) He was the serial killer, killed people in their cars... he made it look like he was the only living victim, but he was really the killer, he had a deal with the original cop that if he didn't kill again the cop wouldn't look for him, Hotch wouldn't make the same deal Thank you!! When I saw his name in the credits I kept waiting for him to show up, but after 2 hours it didn't occur to me that he was the shooter. Hotch won't be dead - injured but not dead.
SurvivorArctic		#534	[-]
Posts: 17570 (05/25/09 10:22 AM) Not a team player Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A lot of shows have used elements of the Picton case in their shows (he is thought to have slaughtered as many as 70 prostitutes beginning in the late 80's, early 90's). So this was an interesting take on it. I know a few people who collected the forensic material (and there was a lot of it) and the horror they described just cannot be adequately shown on network tv. One thing that pushed the limits of believability was the assault rifle just left randomly by the fence. Really. I don't think so.
daggers44		#535	[-]
Posts: 1203 (06/17/09 11:00 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I love this show! I borrowed the first three seasons from a friend, and now I cannot wait for the 4th!!!! And is it wrong that some of the serial killers on this show turn me on???
563928		#536	[-]
Posts: 31 (06/17/09 12:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Maybe.
KFlame220		#537	[-]
Posts: 326 (08/13/09 9:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	CBS released the press release/episode information for the season premiere. http://criminalmindsfanatic.blogspot.com/2009/08/criminal-minds-episode-info-for_12.html Faceless, Nameless" -- While profiling a killer with a personal vendetta against an emergency room doctor, Agent Prentiss (Paget Brewster) is the first to realize that Hotch is missing, on the fifth season premiere CRIMINAL MINDS, Wednesday, Sept. 23 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Also, this might be spoilerish, so, Spoiler [+] DB Sweeney is guest starring in 6 episodes in the first part of the season as a US Marshall, probably to help catch the Reaper. The 100th episode is 5.9, so I'm guessing that ends this arch?
chapera rocks		#538	[-]
Posts: 11680 (09/06/09 8:59 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Weird, I was just coming in here to ask what happened to the Reaper. Now I know! Can't believe I missed that episode the first time around. I figured something was up when they randomly re-ran it last week.
McWolcott		#539	[-]
Posts: 12341 (09/06/09 10:10 AM) The Real American Psycho Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I have spent the last few weeks watching the first 3 seasons and part of the 4th, the rest I will catch up on next weekend. I can't believe I never watched this. It is incredible.
anders332		#540	[-]
Posts: 2926 (09/06/09 11:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	First few seasons with Mandy were excellent - but I always hated Lola G - glad they replaced her with Paget. watched a repeat on A&E Friday night and it was the one with Charles Haid - Elle was on vacatoin with Morgan and Gilles Marini (Dancing with the stars) had a bit part.

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