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BB11 Live Feed Discussion - VII (8/21/09 - 8/27/09)

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Mikester		#61	[-]
Posts: 6210 (08/21/09 10:27 AM) More Recent Posts	I think Jeff's smartest move is to get rid of Natalie this week, but I think Natalie has Jeff/Jordan completely fooled. Good for her.
Carboys Desire		#62	[-]
Posts: 9256 (08/21/09 10:29 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts	diewinelle wrote: yeah, it's not cheating. it's 'checking your answers.' at the least, they could put more space between them----maybe put those booths in a big circle on the outskirts of the BY and have them all with their backs turned. how hard is that? Or why can't they just stand still and write T or F on the chalkboard that's there anyway??? Or hold up a T or F paddle? Or Right Hand for True; Left Hand for False?
Ooga Ooga		#63	[-]
Posts: 3445 (08/21/09 10:29 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Michelle would be an excellent F2 goat. But I think J/J may both wind up in F2 simply because they have this dumbass loyalty to each other that is fashioned by some old fashioned good old American values. And it's pretty hard to argue with that. I can certainly understand both of J/J wanting to go to the F2 and let the evil people decide who gets the big money and who gets the small. The reason would be basically because J/J have been so screwed over by so many people in this house this season (like Ronnie, Jesse, Gnat and Kevin) that I can sure understand that they just don't give a shit. Let them get to F2 and let the goofs sort it out. It's kind of familiar to that old refrain, "Let's kill them all and let God sort it all out." It's not the same thing. But it's similar.
QualityBobby		#64	[-]
Posts: 6778 (08/21/09 10:29 AM) O.o More Recent Posts	meatball77 wrote: The veto holder has all the power in the final four. Two people nominated, one is HOH and the veto holder (the one not nominated) is the one that decides who goes home. It doesn't matter if someone is a snake at this point, if you're thinking endgame it's all about who is going to win the competitions because they are the ones that will hold the power. Keeping people in that won't vote you out is important but really secondary at this point. At that point, I just concentrate on winning whatever I can. Winning HoH = I don't go home. Winning veto = I don't go home. Winning veto is the better reward due to picking the person going home, but at that late stage, I'd rather have security all week and not have to hang everything on one competition.
Utopian		#65	[-]
Posts: 6236 (08/21/09 10:33 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Said it before and still believe it to be true. One step at a time. If your are J&J, first get rid of Russell, then Natalie, and the rest is cake.
rower		#66	[-]
Posts: 2315 (08/21/09 10:34 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	I don't think that Jess hated Jeff (while in the game) I think he was mad because Jeff wasn't up in the HOH licking his ass like everyone else in the NBK. BUT now that Jess is out of the game I think that if he has to vote between Jeff or Russ he wil pick Jeff. He will think that Russ stabbed the NBK more than Jeff ever did. Russ was "in" that alliance (albet at the bottom) and he flipped the game up with the Jeff deal and caused Ronnie to be evicted. Jesse's tiny brain cells will remember that and he will blame Russ for ruining his game, not Jeff. Based on how Jess is still harping on last season, I see him as someone who holds a grudge and this time the hate will be Russ directed. Post game do you really think that Jess's new BFF will be Russ/Lydia? Naw, he will want to grab Nast and hang with J/J, the cute popular ones. LOL
rower		#67	[-]
Posts: 2316 (08/21/09 10:36 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Utopian wrote: Said it before and still believe it to be true. One step at a time. If your are J&J, first get rid of Russell, then Natalie, and the rest is cake. Agreed, take out the snake and the viper. Coast to the final 2 and watch the agony of the jury having decide on which of the two gets the money. OH and remember that America will probably get to cast the tiebreaker vote. LOL
cookie		#68	[-]
Posts: 256 (08/21/09 10:38 AM) More Recent Posts	James Barber wrote: diewinelle wrote: i don't see how jeff's not a huge target no matter what happens this week. That's why I think he'd be better off keeping people who may target each other. No one is going to target Natalie. You will never agree with this, but Jeff's best move is to hold that final four alliance up in the HOH room and pound away about loyalty and sticking to their words- this way he shows his sign of faith and next week the favor is returned. Or else Russell will be concerned about the fallout and if Michele is running to J/J when he is formulating his plan- if the leftover of N/K would join up with Michele/Jordan in final four when Russ is unprotected. Russ's ego alone makes him think he thinks others perceive him as the biggest challenger (esp after Jeff is gone) -it's all too risky for Russ to make a move -only way he does this is if in final five, Michele and K/N leftover come to him together with a plan mapped out (which is not going to happen).
cindidindi76		#69	[-]
Posts: 19328 (08/21/09 10:40 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	diewinelle wrote: Carboys Desire wrote: Oh, and Jortard DID tell the group last night outside that she could hear Michele during the POV comp. She said she played it on her own though, although she could hear. yeah, well i don't believe her. Me neither. When I was watching it, it seemed really obvious, since most of the time she did what Michele did after she did it, complete with choosing one answer and then changing it at the last minute. It just really looked to me like she was copying Michele on most of them.
QualityBobby		#70	[-]
Posts: 6780 (08/21/09 10:44 AM) O.o More Recent Posts	She probably was thinking about the answer, and then using the cues from Michelle's side to finish her decision. As long as BB seems to not care about it (and they have known about it forever), then to me it's not cheating, it's being smart and using whatever you can to win.
christy1018		#71	[-]
Posts: 4687 (08/21/09 10:47 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Sunshine8503 wrote: rower wrote: I think that ultimately Jess is a media ho and if the vote were between Jeff and Russ the Jess would vote for Jeff. Jessie will vote for Russell. There is no question about that. He has hated Jeff since week one. and he HATES America... no way he gives America (in his eyes) a vote - LOL!
mystery whore		#72	[-]
Posts: 275 (08/21/09 10:50 AM) More Recent Posts	If Russ survives this week then it's a forgone conclusion that Russ/Michelle will be the F2 and here's why. Jeff will definitely honor his agreement to put up Nat/Kev for nomination. If the veto is won by either Michelle or Russell and not used (obviously) then a final 2 of Russ/Michelle is pretty much a done deal because... 1). The next HOH comp will only have Michelle, Russell, Natalie and Jordan. Jeff can't play and Kevin will be gone. The odds of Natalie or Jordan winning are much less that Mich/Russ. The win will most likely go to either Mich/Russ. 2). Both Russell and Michelle are smart and realize that keeping the duo of J/J together can be costly and they will make their move to take out Jeff as the biggest threat. Jeff is evicted next Thursday leaving only Jordan and Natalie who basically suck. Jordan will be lost without Jeff and ineffective. Nat will just still suck at comps. 3). With a final 4 of Jordan, Nat, Mich and Russ the odds of an endurance comp favor Russ or Michelle (whoever is not the outgoing HOH). Deals will be made with Nat and Jordan and whoever is left will take it and give the win to either Russ/Mich knowing that the F4 HOH cannot compete in the F3 comp which is a disadvantage. 4). With either Rus or Michelle as the Final 4 HOH they will most definitely get rid off Natalie, leaving a lost and ineffective Jordan in the F3. 5). The final HOH comp favors Russ and Michelle over Jordan (2 against 1). None of them would even consider taking Jordan to F2 so she goes and we have the final 2 of Mich/Russ with an equal chance of winning the top prize.
Kyrissa		#73	[-]
Posts: 1052 (08/21/09 10:50 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts	If Kevin and Natalie are still on the block together after the POV ceremony does anyone think he'll bust out Natalie's lies? He can always play the innocent "she gave me the wrong info on purpose, I didn't know" card.
christy1018		#74	[-]
Posts: 4688 (08/21/09 10:50 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	unduli clone wrote: What would be best for Jordan/Michele to do is keep Kevin and hope he wins HOH. If he does, he'd definitely target Jeff/Russell. Kevin and Natalie both agreed that if either of them win HOH next week that they need to get Jeff out. They say he has the best chance to win if he gets to F2. Jeff getting rid of either one of these assholes will benefit him.
christy1018		#75	[-]
Posts: 4689 (08/21/09 10:52 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	QualityBobby wrote: If anything, since next week is the HoH that no one wants, THAT's the one to consider throwing to Natalie. She does the dirty work of nominating two of your alliance and you still get to fight for veto to save yourself or someone you want to go with. Then she can't play for HoH at f4, so you put her up and get her out then. F3 ftw! I agree with this. Get on it Grodner ;)
The Truth Hurts		#76	[-]
Posts: 6810 (08/21/09 10:53 AM) More Recent Posts	Honestly speaking, I don't really think it makes a huge difference either way who Jeff goes after this week. You could make a case for him going after Nat, Kevin, or Russ. None would be a huge mistake. Kevin would be the smartest to go after, but the other two wouldn't be bad choices either.
James Barber		#77	[-]
Posts: 17832 (08/21/09 10:57 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	christy1018 wrote: unduli clone wrote: What would be best for Jordan/Michele to do is keep Kevin and hope he wins HOH. If he does, he'd definitely target Jeff/Russell. Kevin and Natalie both agreed that if either of them win HOH next week that they need to get Jeff out. They say he has the best chance to win if he gets to F2. Jeff getting rid of either one of these assholes will benefit him. Neither is likely to win a lot of comps down the end stretch and Kevin is unlikely to win a jury vote. Russell will win comps and can beat or stand a chance of beating most of the people left in the house. The smartest target for JJ would be Natalie, if they won't go after Russell, but apparently her not being able to win comps somehow makes her more appealing to stay, even though she's shown for almost two months now that she doesn't need a comp to stay in a power position.
christy1018		#78	[-]
Posts: 4690 (08/21/09 10:57 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Michele agrees a lot with Russell but she is not going to go against J/J. I truly believe that she wants a F3 with them.... for whatever reason :-\
twinklefaery		#79	[-]
Posts: 4369 (08/21/09 10:57 AM) More Recent Posts	The Truth Hurts wrote: Honestly speaking, I don't really think it makes a huge difference either way who Jeff goes after this week. You could make a case for him going after Nat, Kevin, or Russ. None would be a huge mistake. Kevin would be the smartest to go after, but the other two wouldn't be bad choices either. This. There are massive pros and cons pinned to each of these three. There's no wrong move here - he's pretty screwed unless Michele or Jordan win next week no matter what. I don't care how much he drills "loyalty" into Russell's head, if Russell stays and wins next week, it will be incredibly tempting to him to put up Jeff. Getting rid of any of the three helps him - all three of them are equally going to gun for him next week. At this point I think you have to think about who's less of a comp threat. To me that means you get rid of either Kevin or Russell - period.
Mikester		#80	[-]
Posts: 6211 (08/21/09 11:00 AM) More Recent Posts	christy1018 wrote: unduli clone wrote: What would be best for Jordan/Michele to do is keep Kevin and hope he wins HOH. If he does, he'd definitely target Jeff/Russell. Kevin and Natalie both agreed that if either of them win HOH next week that they need to get Jeff out. I think that was only the case if Russell was already out.

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