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Posts: 14312 (08/29/09 9:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I know this might be early but who cares the feeds are so dull might as well speculate who will vote for who. Come Thursday the final 4 will be Kevin/Natalie/Michele/Jordan and the jury is Jessie/Lydia/Russ/Jeff/and sadly America will have a voice as well Anyone against Jordan will win. Natalie/Michele- I think Natalie will win. She would have Jessie, Lydia, Kevin for sure. Jeff/Jordan/Russell can go both ways but I can see them easily going to Natalie. Jordan most likely will vote for Natalie since they have the same love for 90210 and Jessica Simpson. Kevin/Michele- Now I have no damn idea how the votes would go for this one. Natalie and Lydia would vote for Kevin. I can see Jessie voting for Michele for winning the competitions but I can see him voting for Kevin simply because he somewhat had a relationship with him in the house. He had nothing to do with Michele. Plus Kevin was part of the NBK alliance. Have no fucking idea what Russell would do. He seemed to be on the Michele hate train the last night he was in the house and said he would vote for Natalie/Kevin before her. Have no idea what dumb and dumber will do. Natalie/Kevin- Jessie would for sure vote for Natalie. Lydia will for sure vote for Kevin. I see Jeff/Jordan/Russ going towards Natalie, but who knows? America will vote for whoever Grodner wants. Last Edited By: Sunshine8503 09/10/09 8:42 PM. Edited 1 time.
nuevodiesiseis		#1	[-]
Posts: 134 (08/29/09 9:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sunshine8503 wrote: Anyone against Jordan will win. It is like the exact opposite!
robbiefan		#2	[-]
Posts: 4709 (08/29/09 9:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	nuevodiesiseis wrote: Sunshine8503 wrote: Anyone against Jordan will win. It is like the exact opposite! The people that would vote for this dumb @@#% is jefftard and america.
James Barber		#3	[-]
Posts: 18595 (08/29/09 9:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think Jordan has a better chance than people give her credit for. I have doubts this jury will vote on gameplay. I think anyone who decides to casually bring Jordan under the idea that she's a goat will be seen as presumptious, and unless they have good relationships with the jury, they may get backlash. Kevin and Michele do not have good relationships with most of the jury. I'm not sure why people say Michele has to get rid of NK because the jury is stacked for them. They had very different relationships with the jurors. Russell and Jessie hated Kevin. They both had good or OK relationships with Natalie. Jordan will probably get two votes right off the bat -- Jeff and Natalie, who has never liked Michele and could never control her. All she would need is one more for America's vote to kick in. I can see Jessie voting for Jordan over Michele because of Natalie and because he wouldn't want to lose to someone like Michele, a smart woman who wasn't in his group. I can also see Kevin voting for Jordan if Michele decides to assume Jordan is an easy F2 bet. He had a much better relationship with Jordan than with Michele for a lot of the game and if Michele dumps him at F4 he will see himself as having no relationship with her.
nuevodiesiseis		#4	[-]
Posts: 135 (08/29/09 9:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	robbiefan wrote: nuevodiesiseis wrote: Sunshine8503 wrote: Anyone against Jordan will win. It is like the exact opposite! The people that would vote for this dumb @@#% is jefftard and america. Kevin has been very clear he won't vote for the person who removes him from the game. For Michele to get his vote she needs Natalie or Jordan to remove him at final 3 for her, and not be the one to evict him at F4. The only person who can really get him out at F3 will be Natalie and she can win against him so there's nothing stopping her from taking him to final 2 with her. Lydia will probably vote how Kevin wants. Michele fucked over Natalie's best friends Chima and Jessie, and Michele broke her alliance with the athletes since the start of the game. There is absolutely no reason for her to vote for Michele, when she's never helped Natalie at all in the game, and she's been bonding with Jordan. Jessie won't care about anyone in the final 2 so he'll probably vote how Natalie wants. So that is automatically 3 votes for Jordan. Russell will vote for Michele unless something crazy happens in the jury house, and I'm not sure how America thinks but I'd guess they are on Michele's side. So it will depend on how Michele treats Kevin but if she sticks with Jordan and removes him at F4, then she's going to lose.
karen1407		#5	[-]
Posts: 1943 (08/29/09 9:44 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Since "I" get to vote... ala 'America'.... I will place my vote for ANYone against Gnatalie... Yes... she played a good game in a nasty way and I'm a bitter jury member so... THERE!!
PT08		#6	[-]
Posts: 101 (08/29/09 9:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think the only votes Jordan would get would be Jeff, and Natalie. Everyone else sees her as Jeff's lapdog. Michelle's only chance is against Jordan Natalie will beat Michelle and Jordan easily Kevin will beat Michelle and Jordan It could be a tie vote between Kevin and Natalie and America would give it to Kevin
James Barber		#7	[-]
Posts: 18597 (08/29/09 9:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	nuevodiesiseis wrote: Kevin has been very clear he won't vote for the person who removes him from the game. For Michele to get his vote she needs Natalie or Jordan to remove him at final 3 for her, and not be the one to evict him at F4. The only person who can really get him out at F3 will be Natalie and she can win against him so there's nothing stopping her from taking him to final 2 with her. Lydia will probably vote how Kevin wants. Michele fucked over Natalie's best friends Chima and Jessie, and Michele broke her alliance with the athletes since the start of the game. There is absolutely no reason for her to vote for Michele, when she's never helped Natalie at all in the game, and she's been bonding with Jordan. Jessie won't care about anyone in the final 2 so he'll probably vote how Natalie wants. So that is automatically 3 votes for Jordan. Russell will vote for Michele unless something crazy happens in the jury house, and I'm not sure how America thinks but I'd guess they are on Michele's side. So it will depend on how Michele treats Kevin but if she sticks with Jordan and removes him at F4, then she's going to lose. I agree. I don't think Kevin and Natalie are just going to say, "Hey, great game!" and vote for Michele. I think they will decide that her knocking them out and gambling on Jordan being an easy win might make them want to show her who is in control. They have no real relationship with her and if she continues to go along with the remnants of JJ to the end they may give the money to the people she played a lot of her game for. I also think Michele would vote for Jordan if Jordan were against Kevin or Natalie. I don't see the big jury hate for Jordan that so many see.
Sunshine8503		#8	[-]
Posts: 14316 (08/29/09 9:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't see the big jury hate for Jordan that so many see. They don't hate her they just couldn't stand the fact of losing the game to someone as stupid as her. Their egos just couldn't take that, and I don't blame them at all This by far will be the craziest jury. I look forward to their round table discussion and them trying to out argue one another
roxbury123		#9	[-]
Posts: 513 (08/29/09 9:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Why wouldnt Michele not win against Natalie. Lydia hates Natalie, Kevin was forced into an alliance with Nat i can see both of them voting Michele. And why the heck would Jeff/Jordan/Russell ever vote Natalie over Michele? If Natalie were to beat Michele in the F2 it would be worse than BB3's finale. It would be like Janelle loosing to Ivette if that were the final 2 in BB6 or her loosing to Erika or Boogie in bb7.
Captain Bellamy		#10	[-]
Posts: 1122 (08/29/09 9:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	PT08 wrote: I think the only votes Jordan would get would be Jeff, and Natalie. Everyone else sees her as Jeff's lapdog. Michelle's only chance is against Jordan Natalie will beat Michelle and Jordan easily Kevin will beat Michelle and Jordan It could be a tie vote between Kevin and Natalie and America would give it to Kevin Everybody already sees Jordan as Jeff's lapdog but it won't matter. They'll appreciate her for being real and loyal, whereas Michele was true to nobody on the jury but Jeff and Jordan (technically making her Jeff's lapdog and Jordan's lapdog). Jordan also has now outlasted Jeff so she would've gotten through the last 2 rounds of the game by herself with him. Nobody will care that much about gameplay because the Coup is what has affected the game and you forget how she backstabbed Chima over who Jessie, Natalie, and Kevin were very close too.
nuevodiesiseis		#11	[-]
Posts: 136 (08/29/09 10:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sunshine8503 wrote: I don't see the big jury hate for Jordan that so many see. They don't hate her they just couldn't stand the fact of losing the game to someone as stupid as her. Their egos just couldn't take that, and I don't blame them at all This by far will be the craziest jury. I look forward to their round table discussion and them trying to out argue one another If they really do have the egos that you say they do (and I doubt they do), then if anything they'd also not be able to admit to losing to Michele, and they'd vote for Jordan because nobody would mistake that Jordan was a better player than all of them.
roxbury123		#12	[-]
Posts: 514 (08/29/09 10:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Captain Bellamy wrote: PT08 wrote: I think the only votes Jordan would get would be Jeff, and Natalie. Everyone else sees her as Jeff's lapdog. Michelle's only chance is against Jordan Natalie will beat Michelle and Jordan easily Kevin will beat Michelle and Jordan It could be a tie vote between Kevin and Natalie and America would give it to Kevin Everybody already sees Jordan as Jeff's lapdog but it won't matter. They'll appreciate her for being real and loyal, whereas Michele was true to nobody on the jury but Jeff and Jordan (technically making her Jeff's lapdog and Jordan's lapdog). Jordan also has now outlasted Jeff so she would've gotten through the last 2 rounds of the game by herself with him. Nobody will care that much about gameplay because the Coup is what has affected the game and you forget how she backstabbed Chima over who Jessie, Natalie, and Kevin were very close too. Did Michele ever have a real alliance with anyone. So where was there an opportunity for her to be "true" to someone when noone was being true to her. Its also quite clear she was loyal to Jeff and Jordan and they were not loyal back.
Sunshine8503		#13	[-]
Posts: 14317 (08/29/09 10:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Lydia hates Natalie, Kevin was forced into an alliance with Nat i can see both of them voting Michele. And why the heck would Jeff/Jordan/Russell ever vote Natalie over Michele? Lydia loves Jessie and if Kevin isn't in the finals she will vote whatever way he does. Kevin along with Natalie blame Michele for Chima going crazy and getting kicked out/quit also has been plotting along with Nat the last 2 weeks. Do you watch the feeds? Jeff/Jordan/Russ think Michele is the root of all evil and Natalie never lies!
Mikester		#14	[-]
Posts: 6474 (08/29/09 10:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	This is the first f4 where I think it's really anyone's game. Assuming Jeff leaves next, I don't think there's anyone that can be called a huge jury goat or a huge jury threat.
Captain Bellamy		#15	[-]
Posts: 1123 (08/29/09 10:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	roxbury123 wrote: Did Michele ever have a real alliance with anyone. So where was there an opportunity for her to be "true" to someone when noone was being true to her. Its also quite clear she was loyal to Jeff and Jordan and they were not loyal back. Michele had plenty of alliances but she wasn't real to any of them except Jeff and Jordan. That is not going to help her case with a jury unless they really are going to admire those who backstab them, and a lot of them have been very clear they won't appreciate that. It's one thing to backstab somebody once, but she's done it to a lot of the jurors many times in this one game and continually helped Jeff (who will vote for Jordan anyways) and Jordan (her F2 opponent which would actually make Jordan look better). Plus the jurors wouldn't even be able to give Michele a whole lot of credit for outplaying them when the Coup was mostly responsible for getting them out or weakening their control of the game.
The Purple Parrot		#16	[-]
Posts: 11011 (08/29/09 10:07 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I really don't think Natalie has any chance of winning... Not even against Jordan.
Mistress		#17	[-]
Posts: 110 (08/29/09 10:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Mikester wrote: This is the first f4 where I think it's really anyone's game. Assuming Jeff leaves next, I don't think there's anyone that can be called a huge jury goat or a huge jury threat. I agree! The coup has really changed the game. The people with the best chances to win over a jury can't win competitions, and the two people who are best at them have the weakest jury support. It's really exciting!
James Barber		#18	[-]
Posts: 18601 (08/29/09 10:23 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Captain Bellamy, I think you make a good point. I don't think it can be taken for granted how much the jury may see Michele as playing her game for JJ. If she is against Jordan I can see the jury just giving it to Jordan.
RobVanStratus		#19	[-]
Posts: 9055 (08/29/09 10:25 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I can't see Natalie really beating anyone. She's got Jessie's vote locked up, that's it. Plus if she doesn't come clean about the age lie, the jury might have the added mentality of "We can't let some high school kid beat us."
Blueberry		#20	[-]
Posts: 801 (08/30/09 12:28 AM) I REALLY don't take hints. Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Mistress wrote: Mikester wrote: This is the first f4 where I think it's really anyone's game. Assuming Jeff leaves next, I don't think there's anyone that can be called a huge jury goat or a huge jury threat. I agree! The coup has really changed the game. The people with the best chances to win over a jury can't win competitions, and the two people who are best at them have the weakest jury support. It's really exciting! Really exciting, this season is driving me crazy lol

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