Probst Interview: Canwest News Service 09/03

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Zonker		#21	[-]
Posts: 1056 (09/05/09 11:35 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	molelinkluck wrote: I actually think the season hinges on this guy one way or another. If you think that this entire season hinges on just how one player acts (out of twenty) then prepare yourself for one sad season.
Heliox		#22	[-]
Posts: 3130 (09/05/09 12:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Well, he seems to be saying that the medevacs were basically exposure-related, not a challenge injury. So we might expect those to be a couple of the less fit people, rather than the overly competitive people. I don't think you can generalize that. Look at James, and what's his name last year. As well as Jonathan. They were all taken down by small cuts that become infected. Bruce and Papa Smurf went down because they were less fit and older probably. Chet was a bit of both, a cut, but he was older, so maybe it didn't heal as well. But dermal based infections may hit those more prone to lacerations, and they may be the more active competitive people. One thing we can say in generalizations, is that the 2 evacuated this season are probably men. Because have we ever had a female evacuated from the game?? I think medevacs are a great equalizer. You have to play the game hard, but you also have to be able to know when to pull back and keep yourself healthy. It is a HUGE part of the game of survivor, and I definitely don't mind seeing the elements take out Survivors who aren't keeping themselves healthy. Last Edited By: Heliox 09/05/09 12:12 PM. Edited 1 times.
OzarkSurvivor		#23	[-]
Posts: 908 (09/05/09 1:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Heliox wrote: Well, he seems to be saying that the medevacs were basically exposure-related, not a challenge injury. So we might expect those to be a couple of the less fit people, rather than the overly competitive people. I don't think you can generalize that. Look at James, and what's his name last year. As well as Jonathan. They were all taken down by small cuts that become infected. Bruce and Papa Smurf went down because they were less fit and older probably. Chet was a bit of both, a cut, but he was older, so maybe it didn't heal as well. But dermal based infections may hit those more prone to lacerations, and they may be the more active competitive people. One thing we can say in generalizations, is that the 2 evacuated this season are probably men. Because have we ever had a female evacuated from the game?? I think medevacs are a great equalizer. You have to play the game hard, but you also have to be able to know when to pull back and keep yourself healthy. It is a HUGE part of the game of survivor, and I definitely don't mind seeing the elements take out Survivors who aren't keeping themselves healthy. I agree with you. Skupin, Bruce, and Gary were very different cases, though, than Penner, James C, and Joe. The first three were kind of extreme, WTF conditions... stuff you couldn't necessarily forsee (Skupin could have been more careful, but it's not really orthodox to criticize him for that). The latter three were just dumb. When you get an injury, even something that seems miniscule, you always have the option to call medical and get it cleaned and patched up (see one of Spencer's insider vids). These big guys think they don't need to worry about a cut or scrape, and then it snowballs out of control into a life-threatening infection.
gottaTRI		#24	[-]
Posts: 18 (09/05/09 1:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Are we positive the villain is Russell H. ? Erik seems like he has potential to steal that title.
Polonium		#25	[-]
Posts: 141 (09/05/09 2:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	guatemala fanfic wrote: What could make this Russell character so evil that he stands a chance at going far? "Pure" evil signifies that someone actually wants to do harm on people. That's overhype. As stated, this guy is a business owner. He isn't out to literally harm others. In addition to sabotaging the tribe (destroying the rice, etc.), apparently he tells one of the young girls (or maybe more than one?) that he's fallen in love with her even though he's married and uses it for votes or a secret alliance or whatever. That could emotionally harm someone if the girl actually believes it. I would assume he got his wife's permission to do this. I hope he got his wife's permission. Otherwise it would be a downright disgusting thing to do. But at this vast improvement to Billy's strategy.
Sole Survivor Genius		#26	[-]
Posts: 1472 (09/05/09 9:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	hagiz1 wrote: Sole Survivor Genius wrote: hagiz1 wrote: NotHungry wrote: Remind me what he said about JT last season? Anyone have the quote and when it ran in the press? Last season he said the winner is the most likable person. He thought America will be satisfied about the winner. That's telling that Coach wouldn't win or Sierra or Erinn. Who didn't love coach, erinn or sierra??????!?!?!?!?!?!?! LOL. They obviously split America in half. Half loved them and Half hated them. So they're not the most likable person, Right? Mr. SL. Lol Them 3 and Tyson were the only good thing about that season.
NotHungry		#27	[-]
Posts: 872 (09/06/09 3:35 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In addition to sabotaging the tribe (destroying the rice, etc.), apparently he tells one of the young girls (or maybe more than one?) that he's fallen in love with her even though he's married and uses it for votes or a secret alliance or whatever. That could emotionally harm someone if the girl actually believes it. I would assume he got his wife's permission to do this. Woah! Woah, that's not okay! It was hard to watch what Natalie did to Eric in Fans vs. Favorites. That was heartless. This sounds far worse. Geez, that guy is really creeping me out! Last Edited By: NotHungry 09/06/09 8:04 AM. Edited 5 times.
NotHungry	Who's Russell H's girl?	#28	[-]
Posts: 873 (09/06/09 4:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Then again, I love clever con artist stories like Paper Moon and Matchstick Men. So I can't help but think, ethics aside, which girl makes the best mark and why? Marisa, Ashley, Natalie and Elizabeth are on his tribe. Of those, Liz strikes me as she's too analytical and not romantic enough. You'd want someone who was going to be knocked over, not someone who was going to ask a lot of questions. Natalie has a boyfriend. That's one complication too many for this scheme. Ashley's only 22 and I could believe she's too nice for her own good, but my theory is that she gets medivaced early on. My hunch is it's Marisa. Her work in third world countries makes me think she's empathetic. She grew up in a family with 8 kids and probably helped out with the youngest. I think she's just a nurturer. If Russell H. came to her with a shocking emotional plea it might really throw her for a loop. Get her to switch her vote or something against her better interests. Last Edited By: NotHungry 09/06/09 4:36 AM. Edited 6 times.
crocophile		#29	[-]
Posts: 10764 (09/06/09 4:54 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Why would Marisa want a human bowling ball like him? But you listen to Jeffs rant on her and it could be: Marisa, on paper, tailor made for Survivor. All these experiences around the world, taking care of her family and she's a nurturer but I think she might get eaten up just because she's not going to end up with the right people and she's going to become a sitting duck and she's going to be an early target. I wish Marisa would go deeper but if I had to bet, she'll be out by episode 5. If she is it and is out by 5, he can't be all that far behind.
hagiz1		#30	[-]
Posts: 834 (09/06/09 6:08 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sole Survivor Genius wrote: hagiz1 wrote: Sole Survivor Genius wrote: hagiz1 wrote: NotHungry wrote: Remind me what he said about JT last season? Anyone have the quote and when it ran in the press? Last season he said the winner is the most likable person. He thought America will be satisfied about the winner. That's telling that Coach wouldn't win or Sierra or Erinn. Who didn't love coach, erinn or sierra??????!?!?!?!?!?!?! LOL. They obviously split America in half. Half loved them and Half hated them. So they're not the most likable person, Right? Mr. SL. Lol Them 3 and Tyson were the only good thing about that season. Yeah but there's a difference between who made the season good and who is likable. I mean in Big Brother for example, Jessie was good for drama. But was he likable? Heck no.
SkyDreamer		#31	[-]
Posts: 73 (09/06/09 7:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Emotional manipulation? That's low.
Aitu4fan27		#32	[-]
Posts: 720 (09/06/09 8:09 AM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think that he might have an "alliance" with Ashley but might flirt with the others to secure more votes for his alliance. In Jeff's interview he said that he would not be surprised if Ashley made it far in the game and that she has spunk. Maybe she orchaestrates his demise?
Jho		#33	[-]
Posts: 342 (09/06/09 8:16 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Why does he say now that people are evacuated and how many? I bet watching the preview for the next episode will be enough to know who they are Last Edited By: Jho 09/06/09 8:21 AM. Edited 1 times.
Fokkerdr1		#34	[-]
Posts: 1876 (09/06/09 8:20 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Why does he say now that people are evacuated? I bet watching the preview for the next episode will be enough to know who they are It sounds like they get dehydrated and can't build fire. I don't know why people can't build fire. Its easy but takes time.
birdlady		#35	[-]
Posts: 2753 (09/06/09 9:21 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In addition to sabotaging the tribe (destroying the rice, etc.), apparently he tells one of the young girls (or maybe more than one?) that he's fallen in love with her even though he's married and uses it for votes or a secret alliance or whatever Is that an attractive pitch for an alliance? Definitely part of many alliances is that you have some sort of connection personally, not just purely strategically. And there are plenty of examples where one person felt the personal part was stronger than the other person did. But adding the "even though I'm married" part already tells them "I break promises". And presumably if you're going to be convincing to the target, you'd have to act at least a little infatuated in public, too, which tells the rest of the team you don't keep your word, even if they don't have a particular issue with married people stepping out. It seems like that strategy just sets you up for the can't-be-trusted or the not-predictable boot. (And also back in real life - how would that play with his business' customers? I guess if he wins a million dollars he doesn't need customers? But I'd guess that a lot of people who might respect a good blindside or even a successful bluff in a business negotiation would start getting squeamish when you bluff about your wife.) If an older man wants to manipulate a younger woman, I would think going the Roger route would be more successful. Worst case, she's not interested, but at least you haven't damaged anything by trying.
NotHungry		#36	[-]
Posts: 874 (09/06/09 9:31 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Wait a second, birdlady. He could easily get around that by just saying he wasn't married. He's screwed if he slips up and says "My wife-" But until then, his marriage is only a problem if he has a conscience and I don't think he does. As for the evacs, remember that medics had to check on Diane Ogden in Africa after she lost consciousness from dehydration during the challenge, and the same thing happened to Bobby Jon in Guatemala. But leaving the game is usually optional unless there's a risk of permanent injury (Penner and Bruce could have died, James could have lost the use of his hand, etc.) In Diane and Bobby Jon's case the doctors didn't consider the dehydration serious enough, and Bobby Jon had a seizure. So why would the same ailment pose a life altering threat here? That's one reason I'm doubtful Shambo gets removed. If she just disables her shoulder, that sounds analogous to Amy in Guatemala, and Amy wasn't evacuated. Last Edited By: NotHungry 09/06/09 9:39 AM. Edited 5 times.
Heliox		#37	[-]
Posts: 3145 (09/06/09 2:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	NotHungry wrote: Then again, I love clever con artist stories like Paper Moon and Matchstick Men. So I can't help but think, ethics aside, which girl makes the best mark and why? ... My hunch is it's Marisa. Her work in third world countries makes me think she's empathetic. She grew up in a family with 8 kids and probably helped out with the youngest. I think she's just a nurturer. If Russell H. came to her with a shocking emotional plea it might really throw her for a loop. Get her to switch her vote or something against her better interests. And it's interesting in the promo ads, she is the one that comments that 'he' could be "the devil incarnate". So she was my first guess as the femme at most risk. Damn Russell!
Krossedge		#38	[-]
Posts: 634 (09/06/09 3:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	VolcanicGlass wrote: Full article available on canada.com site. What's Probst really selling? Survivor: Samoa showed a darker, more malevolent side to paradise, explains Survivor host Jeff Probst of the 19th season of reality TV's most durable, enduring survival competition. There were rascals in Survivor's paradise, Probst reports - and paradise itself was not always what it was made out to be, either. Through it all, though, the wind howled, the skies opened up and the castaways were drenched. ``Samoa is very beautiful - and it kicked the ass of two people to the point where they had to be evacuated,'' Probst told Canwest News Service in a long, wide-ranging conversation. ``It was hot, and then it rained. And it rained for about a week. They didn't have fire. And they couldn't get water. It was hard. It was definitely hard.'' ``This season, we have one of our most dastardly guys ever. One of the greatest villains in our history. And this is our 19th season. He's had to beat a lot of people. And somebody like that could still theoretically win the game, if they pulled a Richard Hatch.'' Hatch, a corporate motivational speaker from Rhode Island, famously won the original Survivor in the summer of 2000 by convincing the others that he used guile, deceit and outright deception to outwit, outplay and outlast more pleasant personalities, and therefore deserved to win. ``Nobody does that anymore,'' Probst said. ``Nobody gets up and says, `I kicked your ass; now give me the money.''' That may change with Survivor: Samoa, Probst hinted. Uhmm, what the hell is Jeff talking about? Todd used pretty much this exact same strategy in the end and walked away with it. I hate how Todd doesn't ever get enough credit for winning his season and controling everyone like puppets, it makes me sick that Todd hasn't even been invited back for any of the last two All-Star seasons like FvF or season 20.
birdlady		#39	[-]
Posts: 2754 (09/06/09 3:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Wait a second, birdlady. He could easily get around that by just saying he wasn't married. He's screwed if he slips up and says "My wife-" Maybe his wife comes for the loved ones visit, only they tell everyone she's his sister, and then she tells one of the other men that she has fallen in love with him, even though she is married. That would top dead grandmother any day... If no one knows he's married, it's same old same old, playing along with someone who is infatuated with you.. Maybe not nice, but nothing exceptional. Either way, he'd have to have some people skills.
NotHungry		#40	[-]
Posts: 875 (09/06/09 4:25 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I completely agree about Todd. Where's the love? He was a great player and a great character! Is it possible he doesn't want to play a second time?

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