James Barber wrote:I agree. Jordan is only there because she is an idiot and was never seen as a threat. Jeff played the game for her. I hope Kevin wins.
But Jordan isn't there now because she's the nicest. She was the weakest, so weak that she tried to get people to vote her out so Jeff could win. Her game moves also weren't based on being nice or honest. She got rid of Lydia because Lydia called her a fat ho. She lied to Russell and then got rid of him. She lied to Michele and was only working with her after Jeff left because Jeff said she could beat Michele. She thought Michele was a crazy liar.
Kevin didn't have a free ride. He was with NBK because he had no real reason to go with the other side -- they lost HOH every week and they were all friends with Braden, who had hated Kevin. Even then Kevin started becoming a target during Jessie's second HOH week and he had to work to make sure he wasn't nominated. He has gone from that to being in a power position for the past few weeks.
Jordan was never in any danger of leaving, even when she was nominated. She was basically a pawn. Michele was in danger of leaving, but she was disliked by everyone in the house, not just NBK.
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Posts: 4898 (09/11/09 12:17 AM) |
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Posts: 1967 (09/11/09 1:04 AM) |
I like Jordan but she made F4 because she wasn't seen as a threat by anyone.
She made F3 because Kev and Nat both felt they could defeat her (Kev was right so far, Nat was wrong LoL ! ) After Kevin won that egg veto comp showing major patience and he was there to play he became a threat. Natac.unt slipped into being seen as not a threat (which she obviously wasn't). So I hope it's Kev and Jordan F2 and jury votes not America's vote picks the winner. If America's vote has to be used it's because of Chima and I don't want anything to favor anyone because of that basket case. |
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Posts: 5841 (09/11/09 1:09 AM) Registered user |
But why is Jordan's being seen as not a threat any less of a game move than Natalie's lie that she's 18, so she'd be underestimated? Because
one's natural and one's not? Or Kevin's method of HOH-butt-kissing his way to the end of the game. Using your natural talents ... isn't that
part of gameplay?
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Posts: 19826 (09/11/09 1:14 AM) Registered User |
EnricoV wrote:She's never said it's a game move. Jordan has always believed she's a big threat. When Kevin won HOH Jordan was convinced she was the target, not Jeff. |
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Posts: 31 (09/11/09 1:29 AM) |
If you really watched the tonights ep you'd have seen Russell asking Jesse how he'd treat Natalie if she came into the JuryHouse and he said that would
treat her like he always had..as a respectable young woman..(I think "respectable" was the word he used) I think we are getting played by the
producers to lean towards Jordan..she's cute but the Juryhouse is full of people who believed themselves to be real "players" cept Lydia of
course. I think they will reward gamemanship over humanity..so even if Natalie goes up against Jordon..she will still bet at least 3 votes..Jesse..Russell and
Kevin..Lydia had no ties to Jordan so she's the one who will decide I'm thinking..I'm supposing Jeff and Michelle and America will go Jordan
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Posts: 4901 (09/11/09 1:50 AM) |
EnricoV wrote:You're arguing that being born with a low IQ = game strategy. There were plenty of comps that Jordan really wanted to win, but she failed because she's stupid and a weak player. There was nothing strategic about it. |
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Posts: 19837 (09/11/09 4:14 AM) Registered User |
I just watched the comp again and while I did wonder about Jordan saying the night before the comp that the DR told her what it would be about, hearing people
say that she's spent a lot of time studying and memorizing makes me realize she probably did win it on her own. The comp itself was ridiculously easy for
this late in the season, but I guess if Natalie had done a better job it wouldn't have mattered. So even though I still think the comp sucks I will say
Jordan won it on her own. And the reaction from Natalie at the end of the show was very entertaining.
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Posts: 223 (09/11/09 5:02 AM) |
I watched the episode again and noticed something I didn't notice the first time.
When Jessie told Jeff that Nasty was 24, Jessie said to Jeff "That was the only way you were gonna win." So I guess that Nasty really is fucked if they would have even picked Jeff over her. |
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Posts: 5664 (09/11/09 6:38 AM) Registered User |
I think Natalie's loss at the comp was a combination of her getting confused and just generally being a failure.
Am I nuts or was Danielle a little drunk during the past player segment? |
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Posts: 3109 (09/11/09 7:19 AM) |
NickF227 wrote: THIS is the only important part - what a contestant decides to use their prize money is not up to us to decide. |
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Posts: 8510 (09/11/09 9:50 AM) Registered User |
YoMoma001 wrote: Yup. And you know what ? Kevin and Natalie made F4 because THEY were not seen as a threat by anyone. Jeff and Michele were targeted before Jordan. But Jessie and Chima and Russell were targeted before Kevin and Natalie. What's the difference ? |
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Posts: 264 (09/11/09 9:55 AM) |
WALMART wrote:I knew he said something, but i didn't really catch what he said. I have for a long time felt that the Nasty lie about being 18 was a real game breaker if the truth came out prior to the jury vote. When I heard her talk about it in the first episode I was really repulsed. It is a cliff hanger, however, to see just what combo of info prevails with the Jury. Michele will have had a long time with the jury. Nat may be a sinking ship that will lose despite the any amount of time she is given to explain how she puppeted them all. |
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Posts: 893 (09/11/09 10:02 AM) |
Oowatanite wrote: Kevin and Natalie actually fought to stay and turned the whole game around? Take off the fucking blinders, Kevalie made up a lie and now are 2 of the final 3. |
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Posts: 14635 (09/11/09 12:58 PM) Registered User |
When Jessie told Jeff that Nasty was 24, Jessie said to Jeff "That was the only way you were gonna win." I missed that 
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Posts: 87 (09/11/09 2:02 PM) |
When I heard her talk about it in the first episode I was really repulsed.
I take it you were also repulsed by Michelle planning on lying and doing so for the first while about her real job. You know, so she wouldn't be seen as a mental threat. |
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Posts: 7567 (09/13/09 5:10 PM) Registered user |
FYI - tennis is running over. 60 minutes is still not on, so set your TiVOs to run long.
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Posts: 12946 (09/13/09 6:08 PM) |
how much of a delay/
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Posts: 4525 (09/13/09 6:09 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Jessie rambling
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LPMA |
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Posts: 4526 (09/13/09 6:14 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Kevin making Ronnie cry
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Posts: 19809 (09/13/09 6:15 PM) 10 per day, bitches! |
is this on tonight?
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