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Posts: 176 (09/12/09 08:25 AM) Registered user |
pushingjate wrote: That's why All-Stars doesn't work at all, IMO. It's better with strangers. Maybe a few All-Stars mixed in with regular people might help, but basically All-Stars is a bad idea. |
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Posts: 986 (09/12/09 09:17 AM) Registered user |
Fans Vs Favorites? I would LOVE THAT!
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Posts: 2288 (09/12/09 09:50 AM) Registered User |
I was surprised Danielle said that Natalie deserved to win since days before in a drunken blog talk radio interview, she said that Natalie would lose. She
said that Nat's lying was fine, but that Nat's sanctimonious loyalty crap speech would not fly with the jury.
I wonder what made her change her mind so quickly? Dick looked like he thought he was too cool for those people, sitting away from e1 else and he couldn't even be bothered to sit up straight. Janelle looked like a secretary in that blouse. Boogie looked like he was late for bowling night. |
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Posts: 991 (09/12/09 09:52 AM) Registered user |
They need to do this every season, I would love to see past houseguests giving commentary
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Posts: 20068 (09/12/09 10:38 AM) Registered user |
Why was Erika so hated in All Stars? Because she was herself. |
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Posts: 12395 (09/12/09 10:46 AM) The Real American Psycho |
because she's a dick (and has one)
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Posts: 402 (09/12/09 10:52 AM) |
B/c she punted Janelle and bumped uglies with Boogie. Personally, I didn't have a problem with the Janelle part.
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Posts: 14652 (09/12/09 12:55 PM) Registered User |
That's the one bad thing about All-Stars game is that existing friendships/relationships impact the game.I agree. Everyone had alliances made up before going into the house. Fucking Chilltown had one with everybody. I don't understand why any of the idiots didn't see it. I also didn't like it because Will controlled the producers. He wouldn't do it unless fucking Boogie went in there. Seriously Boogie wasn't memorable on BB2 and didn't deserve a spot. I remember after the cast was announced I said Boogie and Erika would be the final 2 because they were the worst ones picked, and I was right. I rather no more former houseguests come on the show and voice their opinions. I really don't give a shit what any of them say. |
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James Barber |
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Posts: 19902 (09/12/09 01:06 PM) Registered User |
I wouldn't mind them if they were giving their opinions, but a lot of it seems producer-pushed. Even if it isn't, I think they would be better off
talking about previous seasons on Twitter or blogs, and if they are on the show it can be as where are they now.
Will definitely controlled the producers in that season. He also spent so much time talking about how much he hated the show. I think it took him quite a while to actually get into enjoying the game again, and even when he did his heart wasn't fully in it. He seemed to be playing for Boogie, as I think BB was probably Boogie's dream come true. I wonder if that Mr and Mrs Smith alliance would have been interesting if it hadn't been exposed before they ever got in the house. I would have liked to have seen Alison and Nakomis stay longer. I hated seeing Nakomis leave so early. I generally liked Danielle in BBAS but I wish they wouldn't show that "BLACK WIDOW!" clip anymore. Even at the time of the win I thought it was a bit much, since Erika had thrown it to her. Then the week consisted of her being locked up for a day and booting Kaysar, whom she had wanted as her Jason. If Kaysar had agreed, she probably would have voted James out. |
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Blueberry.celebprowresting |
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Posts: 1029 (09/12/09 01:16 PM) Registered user |
James Barber wrote: YES! Why did they get rid of Nakomis,Diane and Kaysar so early? I dont have speakers so i cant really watch the season on youtube lol |
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Posts: 3751 (09/12/09 01:22 PM) Registered User |
Nakomis/Diane were targeted b/c Kaysar wanted to get rid of the floaters
Kaysar went home b/c Janelle won POV. Erikunt was hated immediately because she was the Amber of BBAS. Boring bitch never should have been cast in the first place, and then she completely fucked her game by getting rid of Danielle. |
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James Barber |
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Posts: 19903 (09/12/09 01:23 PM) Registered User |
Kaysar got rid of Nakomis because he didn't want to go after the big players, he wanted to go after floaters (he had a secret deal with Will). He put up
Nakomis and Diane because Nakomis had almost won HOH. Nakomis also made the mistake of voting to evict Danielle, as she hadn't realized the house had
decided to evict Alison. Due to this, Danielle would not vote to keep Nakomis in the house, so even when Kaysar decided he wanted to get rid of Diane, not
Nakomis, he didn't have the votes.
Diane left because Janelle knew Diane didn't like her and would target her, and that was the last week before endurance, which Diane could have won. Kaysar left because Danielle put up Janelle and James (James to try to hide their alliance). Janelle won veto, and Danielle had promised not to put Howie up because Howie had quit the endurance on that promise. She didn't want to put Kaysar up, but he refused to work with her and he was the only one left of season six. |
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Posts: 211 (09/12/09 01:30 PM) |
Can we just say now how awful it was that basically half of the cast of BB6 was in BB7? It was as if the producers were so shocked that there were actual
leading fan favorites for once after the gray-area seasons of 2-5 that the threw them all in there. Ivette should have been there over Howie, James, and
Kaysar. That would have been awesome. Swap Erika for Jun<33333 and Nicole for Boogie and that would have been an insane season. Maybe throw in Roddy.
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Posts: 1034 (09/12/09 01:37 PM) Registered user |
James Barber wrote: THANKS! Kaysar was a moron once again, you go after big players ESPECIALLY on a Allstars season. dumbass. I loved DIANE, hate that she left early and Nakomis was ok. I hated James and Howie is a retard, Ivette deserved to be in there over both of them. |
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Posts: 2440 (09/12/09 02:18 PM) Registered user |
Blueberry wrote:I think it would be interesting if half the house were celebrities and the other half people who are fans of those celebrities. Except the fans don't know ahead of time. |
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Posts: 2441 (09/12/09 02:25 PM) Registered user |
Blueberry wrote:I disagree. Look what happened on Survivor AllStars--except for Tom, most of the people who survived far into the game were people who placed middle of the pack in their original season (and Rob didn't even make the merge). This is because the middle of the pack people banded together to the theme of "They already won (or came close) once!" The strong players had to band together to prevent this, but instead saw each other as threats and went along with plans to boot other winners, and had no protection when their time came. Kaysar most likely realized that S6 would be a big target, as would Chilltown, and thought that they'd be better off protecting each other. However, one does NOT make deals with, listen to, or ally with Dr. Will because he HAS no loyalty in the game. Kaysar should've known this and acted accordingly |
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Posts: 5845 (09/12/09 02:28 PM) Registered user |
favoriteauntjulie wrote:That's not changing her mind. To say Natalie deserves to win is one opinion. To say that she can't win with the jury is a different thing. |
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Posts: 3617 (09/12/09 02:47 PM) |
I thought the speculation was that Jun wasn't on All Stars because she couldn't fit in the house. Wasn't that the subject of about 100 jokes here
back in '06?
Jee was the Jeff of BB4. No personality, won a bunch of competitions, thought he owned the house, and got a nice little wake-up call at Final 5. I chalked him up to one of the many casting mistakes of that stillborn season. Maybe a little more understandable than some of the others, since he was a last-minute replacement for the far more TV-friendly Brandon (back when houseguests would actually get kicked off for minor infractions). I have no idea why some of the other people that year were ever cast in the first place. And that includes Jun, who didn't exactly have the most dynamic personality. But I don't know how she could be considered a "slunt," though. She certainly wasn't a slut -- and she wasn't really that cunty except with Robert. The only time I was bothered by her was when (and I didn't see it on the feeds, since I had long stopped watching them at that point -- only read transcripts of) she and Alislut were calling Robert's little girl a "bitch" and saying they were going to rip up some butterfly thing Robert made for her. Who the fuck says things like that about a 7-year-old? I think it's universally-agreed that Ivette should have been on All Stars, and the only reason she wasn't was because Grodhog wanted to spite the Friendship for daring to beat that other shitty, overrated alliance. Grod got what she deserved. Janelle and Howie were even boring and vapid in BB7 than they had been on BB6, and added next to nothing of interest. And without Ivette, Kaysar had no arch nemesis and was a total lump. |
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Posts: 5559 (09/12/09 03:01 PM) |
I think it's universally-agreed that Ivette should have been on All StarsI beg to differ. |
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Posts: 3619 (09/12/09 03:05 PM) |
I stand corrected. It's universally-agreed by those who would prefer houseguests on All Stars to have actual personalities that Ivette should have been on
All Stars. The select few who root for, and have avatars of, houseguests who have no personality disagree.
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