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gottaTRI |
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Terry is a really great guy in person. He is peronable and clearly an engaging leader.
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gibson97 |
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it's obvious production hated terry bc the editing hated terry. they did not change to F3 for him...
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panurge46 |
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Sole Survivor Genius wrote: Actually, Danielle said in interviews that she was going to do just was XtremeInnovator said she should. |
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craig |
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Teryy played a good game from an underdog position - it's just that Cirie and friends played a bit better. Casaya masked the real pecking order and voted
off the people Terry befriended.
It's ironic if they moved to F3 out of pity for a challenge whore. Becuase the change has benefitted physically weaker masterminds with strong alliances the most - for example, the S13-S15 winners. MB\JP faves like Yau-man and Matty\Kenny still left before F3, while S13 Ozzy and S15 Amanda lost the jury vote. |
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Kirblar |
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craig wrote:Yeah, the big thing that F3 stops is Goat-Dragging to the finals. China, Cook Islands and Gabon all had close/interesting final TCs, which wouldn't have occurred in a F2 scenario as there were obvious goats each time (Becky, Amanda, Sugar.) |
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OzarkSurvivor |
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I've already written a lot about this subject. The F3 first happened as a scheduling solution to having 20 contestants.
with 16 contestants, one person is voted out every 3 day cycle, and one round every day at F4. with 18, you make one round 2 days instead of 3 days, and the remaining day becomes a double boot episode. with 20, you keep double boot ep, add the bottle twist, and a F3. This makes it easier on production to keep their schedule basically the same, without added pressures to construct more challenges in a shorter timeframe. Did this change finalist strategies? YES. Did this cause fan-fave and production fave alpha males to have a fair shot at the finals? YES. Was this change made for those two reasons? NO |
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beatles20147 |
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China, Cook Islands and Gabon all had close/interesting final TCs, which wouldn't have occurred in a F2 scenario as there were obvious goats each time (Becky, Amanda, Sugar.) I know you're a fan of F3--but come on, did anyone even remotely consider Amanda a goat before her final TC performance? Courtney was the clear goat, and if it'd been F2 and Amanda took Courtney to the end, everybody would've thought that Courtney had zero chance. If anything, Amanda and Courtney (and later Susie and Stephen) proved that the viewer-perceived goats may not be completely up the creek while people who seem to have a solid chance can easily blow it, and that's the same no matter how many people are sitting in the end. |
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Kirblar |
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beatles20147 wrote:Amanda got a ridiculously good edit given her abysmal social game in China. |
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DarrahColleenJerri |
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All the F3 did was mean obvious jury threats are voted out at F4 instead. Terry should get the fuck over himself, all he is is the poor mans version of Tom.
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HoldenCaulfield |
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From the article:
Terry's a alright guy, but with this answer he gives in the article I can see why people here don't care for him. Seriously, who the hell talks about himself / herself like that? |
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tullfan2 |
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beatles20147 wrote: I agree that Amanda was certainly not a goat but if it had been a Final 2 and she had won the Final IC, she would have taken Todd to the final 2 rather than Courtney, who she thought was not even trying to play the game (which was true). After seeing her play two complete seasons, I'd say that Amanda is not terribly bright. Ozzy is not much better than Amanda. He voted against Becky rather than Sundra to force a tie based on the fact that they both played the same type of game and were equally deserving. He would have been better off voting out Sundra since Becky's jury vote would have certainly gone to Yul whereas Sundra's vote might have been up for grabs. If Cook Islands had a Final 2 and Ozzy had won the last IC, he would have likely taken Yul over Becky. Based on seeing them for 2 seasons, both Ozzy and Amanda seem to be foolish enough to take the more deserving person to the Final 2 rather than the 'goat'. |
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strawberrybitch |
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Mypoody2 wrote: why do they hate him? he is so cool :) |
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panurge46 |
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Tullfan, Amanda was hesitating between voting out Todd and Denise at F4 so it's pretty obvious she would have taken Courtney had she won a F3 challenge.
Amanda certainly beats Courtney in a F2 situation.
Just the same, Ozzy said he was waiting for Yul's idol to expire to take him out so why would he take him to the end? Yul said he would have tried to convince him and Ozzy-bashers here ran with that wish has if it was a done deal. Ozzy beats Becky in a F2. |
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SkyDreamer |
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Amanda doesn't win in a F2. Courtney gets the same 2 votes she got + Todd's and Frosti's.
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WylDawg |
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I'm the only one who likes Terry on this forum but even I have to ask why the hell is this randomely being brought up now??
If they wanted him to win, why didn't they make the final challenge all about physical endurance rather than balance which clearly favored petite women. That was the biggest WTF in that season for me. Maybe they were banking on Danielle taking Terry to the final 2 and have a repeat of Palau, which meant the challenge was actually supposed to screw over Aras. That's the only thing I can come up with. And production loves Terry. Sadly for him, they just prefer Penner and Westman when it comes to the alpha dad demo group. Thus why he got the shaft twice for an All-Stars season. |
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panurge46 |
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I have to agree with Wyldawg here with only 1 remark: All the challenges that season had been very physical in nature so having 1 being about balance was due.
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HoldenCaulfield |
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WylDawg wrote:No you're not. Seeing the hatred Terry inspires makes me like him even more. I think the fact that someone male, older, white, and traditional is actually good at something is what gives so many people here a panic attack. Because God forbid someone from the Exile Island season besides Cirie gets a little respect. Still... what gives with that comment he makes about everyone being pissed that he lost? Why say that in an interview, even if it's true? |
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Jho |
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Posts: 356 (09/13/09 12:11 PM) Registered User |
HoldenCaulfield wrote: I don't care if he's white, male, older and traditional. He was extremely rude and thought he was the king of Panama |
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Cyberball2072 |
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I would not be surprised if at a Production Level, they had always wanted someone to "run the gauntlet" of IC wins to propel himself into the end.
Maybe that, and then the "ethnic tribes" on the next season, they decided they wanted a larger set of jurors.
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seltzer3 |
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China, Cook Islands and Gabon all had close/interesting final TCs, which wouldn't have occurred in a F2 scenario as there were obvious goats each time (Becky, Amanda, Sugar.)I always thought if it was a Becky-Ozzy final 2, it would actually be somewhat close. I thought I heard it was possible she could have gotten votes from Yul, Brad, Jonathan, Sandra, and Candice. -For China, It would be somewhat close between Amanda/Courtney. For Gabon, I thought that the people who voted for Susie, would probably voted for Sugar over Bob. -A final 2, would have made things a lot more interesting for Fiji. If Dreamz won and took Cassandra, the votes would be a lot more closer. |
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