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Can't really answer without talking politics.
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Poll Finds Most Doctors Support Public
Option
Among all the players in the health care debate, doctors may be the least understood about where they stand on some of the key issues around changing the health care system. Now, a new survey finds some surprising results: A large majority of doctors say there should be a public option. When polled, "nearly three-quarters of physicians supported some form of a public option, either alone or in combination with private insurance options," says Dr. Salomeh Keyhani. She and Dr. Alex Federman, both internists and researchers at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, conducted a random survey, by mail and by phone, of 2,130 doctors. They surveyed them from June right up to early September. Most doctors - 63 percent - say they favor giving patients a choice that would include both public and private insurance. That's the position of President Obama and of many congressional Democrats. In addition, another 10 percent of doctors say they favor a public option only; they'd like to see a single-payer health care system. Together, the two groups add up to 73 percent. When the American public is polled, anywhere from 50 to 70 percent favor a public option. So that means that when compared to their patients, doctors are bigger supporters of a public option.
Doctors' Support For Public Option 'Broad And Widespread' The researchers say they found strong support for a public option among all categories of doctors. "We even saw that support being the same whether physicians lived in rural areas or metropolitan areas," says Federman. "Whether they lived in southern regions of the United States or traditionally liberal parts of the country," says Keyhani, "we found that physicians, regardless - whether they were salaried or they were practice owners, regardless of whether they were specialists or primary care providers, regardless of where they lived - the support for the public option was broad and widespread." Keyhani says doctors already have experience with government-run health care, with Medicare. And she says the survey shows that, overall, they like it. "We've heard a lot about how the government is standing in between patients and their physician," Keyhani says. "And what we can see is that physicians support Medicare. So I think physicians have sort of signaled that a public option that's similar in design to Medicare would be a good way of ensuring patients get the care that they need." The survey was published online Monday by the New England Journal of Medicine. It was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, a health care research organization that favors health reform. AMA Doctors Also Support Public Option The survey even found widespread support for a public option among doctors who are members of the American Medical Association, a group that's opposed to it. The AMA fears a public option eventually could lead to government putting more limits on doctors' fees. "The American Medical Association has traditionally been probably the loudest voice for physicians across the United States," says Federman. "And part of our reason for doing this research was really to get at the real voice of physicians as opposed to the voice of one physician organization." Keyhani and Federman belong to another, smaller group, the National Physicians Alliance. It supports a public option, and Keyhani has spoken publicly about her own support for a public option. What Would A Public Option Look Like? It's hard to know for sure what doctors mean when they speak about a public option, says Dr. James Rohack, president of the AMA. "Because when I say public option, or you say public option, it means different things to different people, kind of like the Rorschach ink blot test - when you look at it, to some people it means one thing, to other people it means the other thing." Politicians in Washington turn to the AMA for support and guidance, even though fewer than a third of practicing doctors belong to the lobbying group. The AMA's own position on a health overhaul has, at times, been hard to pinpoint. In July, it praised the bill that came out of the House of Representatives. That bill included a public option. But the AMA made it clear that what it really liked was that it eliminated cuts in doctors' fees from Medicare. "And so I think that's why we need to be very clear about what does the AMA articulate for," says Rohack. "It's to make sure that everyone has coverage that's affordable, that's portable and that is quality - that is, it covers the things you need to cover because you've got a medical condition or developed a medical illness." source |
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Pseudo Propaganda |
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Have you ever had to deal with insurance company billing? It would make you a pretty strong proponent for reform. Pretty much all the doctors in my family
state "dealing with insurance companies" as the reason they would retire at all.
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factoryhurl |
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i self insure and pay around $400 a month with a $5K deductible. i have a $25 copay for drugs. i was paying $600 a month with a $10K deductible when my kids
were minors. it's basically *in case of* insurance.
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PoChop |
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Scalpels cut flesh.
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WiscBadger95 |
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Anne Boleyn wrote:Because is so expert at royally fucking up anything and everything they touch. |
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WiscBadger95 |
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WiscBadger95 wrote:That should read: "Because Congress is so expert at royally fucking up anything and everything they touch." Fucking Zeep! |
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MakePaulaCry |
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Jesus Christ! These deductibles and everything are so fucking ridiculous. Kind of makes me glad that I won't EVER have to deal with that bullshit.
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Aunt Pappy |
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$1536.00 per month through my husband's small group policy for three of us. $2000.00 deductible. We raised the deductible last year, and with this
year's routine increase are just about back to what we were paying before. We're basically uninsurable as individuals. Our business is having a rough
year and we may have to drop the group plan soon. We're in the "you're fucked" age group, and a long way to go until Medicare. *sigh*
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torkie |
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I have a 25 year old type 1 diabetic daughter. She's on COBRA right now, insurance through work open enrollment is coming up, but it has a year ban on
pre-existing conditions. She will be off COBRA in June 2010. Anyone know how you file for an extension? I'll be paying 2 insurance policies for a year
which sucks.
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nomii |
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with such high monthly payments - wouldn't most people be better off simply putting that money in a medical fund account?
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hypatia67 |
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Four years ago, my daughter was injured on the job. She had to work part time for a few months and lost her health insurance. When she returned to full-time,
they would not cover her work related injuries -- the old pre-existing condition routine. Workman's Comp paid for her medical for a while, but then
decided her injuries were permanent and cut her off. She lost her job and cannot get any insurance coverage. The quote for the COBRA insurance was over
$2,000 a month.
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Bonestripper |
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Great benefits and insurance. Also double covered because my wife is a nurse and she has the same plan. I get $35.00 a month because I didn't use all the
allotment given to me
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Goosehead |
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Okay, that's it. I'm not applying for jobs in the US, that's just crazy. *not a political statement*
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MakePaulaCry |
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Goosehead wrote:X. I was just dickin around one day for jobs in the US just for shits and giggles. There was a VERY well paying job but I absolutely laughed at the health plan. $10 check ups, hundreds of dollars of deductibles, etc. In addition, the vacation time was horrific. 10 days a year? |
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Pahrump Mania |
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Anne Boleyn wrote: You failed with making this discussion non-political and non-retarded. |
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Goosehead |
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MakePaulaCry wrote: |
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Endofthread |
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Anne Boleyn wrote: because Americans are retards. |
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blockhose |
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Pahrump Mania wrote: Anne - I think Pahrump just called you fat. |
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2old4MTV |
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nomii wrote:That's where the hospitals and doctors screw you. I thought about dropping my insurance and just putting it all into a HSA. I was paying about $6000 a year for a policy with a $5000 deductible so it seemed like a good idea. But when you look at the numbers, you're going to get it either coming or going. Last week I got a bill from the lab for my routine bloodwork I have done quarterly. The bill before insurance for 3 tests and someone to take my blood is $250. It goes through my insurance. They pay nothing, but suddenly my responsibility is $45 due to the negotiated rates for those procedures the insurance company gets. I think the majority of people in the US believe the system is broken. But the idea of doing something to fix it is scary because what if we end up with a whole new clusterfuck? I get it, but people who do the right things are drowning. They go to college, get job, work in job, have good insurance, get sick, lose job, lose insurance, lose savings, lose house, die penniless leaving family in huge debt with nothing. We have to do something and none of it is going to be fun. |
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