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EnricoV		#1581	[-]
Posts: 5891 (09/18/09 12:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	TheWhiteRabbit wrote: But again, the problem I have is they way they went about it here. To tell him he will lose $450,000 if he doesn't keep Jeff. They might as well have told Kevin they would put a hit out on his boyfriend if he evicted him. Honestly, I really doubt that's exactly what they said. This is Kevin's version of what was said. I'd be more inclined to believe they said something along the lines of: "if you evict him, do you think you'll be playing for second place."
moviegirl11		#1582	[-]
Posts: 2725 (09/18/09 12:07 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	polka dot wrote: you can't take kevin's "quote" as a quote. i'm sure they pressured him, i'm sure they implied a lot of things when giving him "scenarios," but it doesn't mean they actually said "you're going to get second place if you boot jeff." That's exactly what I was thinking. I know plenty of people cry rigging a lot but that kind of interference would be completely over the top and not only that, it would be a lie. There are a billion other more subtle ways that they could rig the game to favor the popular people. They don't need to blatantly lie to a contestant to try to make them vote a certain way. Suggesting scenarios and yes, saying things to get into their heads is one thing (I've always assumed they did that. It's a TV show and they want to make it good, build suspense and get the HGs to say things in the DR that can be used to create the suspense in the episode). But I think Kevin's words are an exaggeration. At most they could've asked him if he was afraid that evicting Jeff would eliminate his chances at winning. That I might believe but straight-up telling him that that's the case doesn't seem likely.
TheWhiteRabbit		#1583	[-]
Posts: 1199 (09/18/09 12:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jellybelly71 wrote: i actually see the DR rigging as part of the game, in a true Orwellian sense. it's BB trying to control the HG's and seeing who falls in line with it and who says "fuck it" and thinks for themself. Exactly, but I think BB should embrace the fact that the DR is a player in the game instead of constantly trying to sweep it under the rug. We all know it happens, why not just own it? Maybe it would add a new dynamic to the game.
Zap1Music		#1584	[-]
Posts: 148 (09/18/09 12:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	TheWhiteRabbit wrote: Does no one see anything wrong with this? Reality TV World: While you were in the game, you told Jordan and Natalie that you didn't think you could beat either of them in the Final 2 -- did you really believe that or were you just trying to convince them to take you to the Final 2 if they had the choice? Kevin: No, I really did feel like I was playing for second place. The producers to get in your mind because I remember they were doing some Diary Room session with me and I do remember when I was deciding to get [Jeff Schroeder] out, they were like, "Oh well, you know if you get Jeff out you do know that you're playing for second place." I was like, "Oh my god! Oh my god you're right!" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-kevin-campbell-dishes-about-his-big-brother-journey-9565.php this is nothing new - the producers change game in dr all the time in HUGE WAYS - biggest game change by producers/DR was in final 4 on all stars on BB ALL STARS the final 4 were chill town - dr will kirby and boogie and erika and janelle - remember that one? erika and boogie were showmance and will and janelle were showmance...... Janelle won veto and had to pick either erika or will to send home.....she and will were a team. She didnt like erika and she sent him home and saved erika.....why? Some top producers WERE MAD AS HELL at will and WANTED HIM GONE! Will was critisizing the game on feeds non-stop....calling out production for crappy competitions etc One day in backyard Will told boogie he got told in DR that producers were mad as hell at him. How top producers were calling and screaming at the show staff...about stuff will was saying....and if he didnt stop ...then BOOM fish/front door cam...... Erika on the other hand was show insider. She worked for CBS as casting person? and partied with top producers etc..Was friends with them outside game. Erika had dated Josh from season one and went with him to BB cast parties get togethers etc....so she met and was hanging out with show staff for years. SO DR went to work....... They found tape in game where Will called Janelle a dumb bitch....he was joking around with Boogie.....basically calling everybody besides chill town in game dumb....him and boogie had final 2 deal (chill town yo) and they were calling erika and janelle dumb basically to trust chill town) So DR tells Janelle that Will was playing her and called her a bitch.....the DR was only place Janelle could have learned that. That he called her a bitch. The DR told her that she needed to team up with Erika. You could see the change on feeds in huge way. Janelle and Will were tight. Erika and Jenelle NEVER liked each other in game. I saw Janelle go up to Will right before veto and ask him if he ever called her a bitch. Will says, "well yea I was joking around." CBS made a whole show around the promo...... GIRL POWER........the whole frikken show was about Erika and Janelle learning chill town was playing them and getting even.,....by Janelle voting out her partner Will.... Janelle and Erika sat in backyard night before veto and talked about how dr told them they looked like fools to america for trusting chill town.....Erika was in on the scam because she stayed partners with Boogie till end and final 2...... So DR got Janelle to vote out Will.......Erika and Boogie then got out Janelle..... Erika the producer friend/insider got 2nd place. Janelle got scammed by DR and Erika.....the "the girls look like fools to america"was a big dr scam to make janelle get rid of will. Erika was in love with Boogie.....ah well.....
YoMoma001		#1585	[-]
Posts: 2006 (09/18/09 12:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jellybelly71 wrote: i actually see the DR rigging as part of the game, in a true Orwellian sense. it's BB trying to control the HG's and seeing who falls in line with it and who says "fuck it" and thinks for themself. I see DR sessions are not part of the game but are part of the show. DR can plant ideas, plant seeds to make hg's think but hg's with their own mind still make choices. It was a Jeff/Jordan show, no doubt there so the DR naturally tried to stretch that for tv production as well the feed watchers - it drew the ratings not the others. Once Kev split the beloved show mance in half Jordan on her own surprised I think even production winning the last 2 comps of the 3 part comp for final HoH serving up the fairy tale ending, something for show purpose of course production is happy ! America as expected made Jeff the favorite player so watch for BB11 future to more often than not be duo appearances Jeff/Jordan because the show will take advantage of what was most popular and use that to represent the story of BB11 along with a few clips of the big fights - that's show biz - reality sells but the favorites on these reality show's get the accolates. Natalie will simply go into the archives as a hated guest of BB11 maybe of all time , not the legacy she expected but deserves so I'm glad LoL !
TheWhiteRabbit		#1586	[-]
Posts: 1200 (09/18/09 12:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Did DR really tell Janelle all that stuff? I remember the part where Will was talking about production coming down on him but I don't remember Janelle confronting Will about him calling her a bitch.
LarrysRat		#1587	[-]
Posts: 499 (09/18/09 12:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Zap1Music wrote: Erika on the other hand was show insider. She worked for CBS as casting person? and partied with top producers etc..Was friends with them outside game. Erika had dated Josh from season one and went with him to BB cast parties get togethers etc....so she met and was hanging out with show staff for years. Thats whole reason erika got on all stars....she was not even popular and was boring as hell. No reason for her to be on all stars. Erika had DR people helping her throughout the whole game.
TheWhiteRabbit		#1588	[-]
Posts: 1201 (09/18/09 12:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	LarrysRat wrote: I haven't seen Garbage Pail Kid cards since the 80's.
pushingjate		#1589	[-]
Posts: 5723 (09/18/09 12:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	So DR got Janelle to vote out Will.......Erika and Boogie then got out Janelle..... Erika the producer friend/insider got 2nd place. Janelle got scammed by DR and Erika.....the "the girls look like fools to america"was a big dr scam to make janelle get rid of will. Erika was in love with Boogie.....ah well..... . The DR wanted Will and Janelle to be the final 2 of AS-the best player ever vs. the most popular player ever. It was when the DR intervened that Janelle solidified taking out Will. Yes, the DR did ask both Erika and Janelle if they were being played by ChillTown, but that was Erika who took that and ran with it. If the producers cared about Erika, they wouldn't have let Alison get in catty comments and made Erika look like a fool with Boogie. Will/Janelle as the F2 is what they wanted. Thats whole reason erika got on all stars....she was not even popular and was boring as hell. No reason for her to be on all stars. Erika had DR people helping her throughout the whole game. Erika was the most popular player during S4. Her CBS #s were higher than any previous HG from S2/S3.
tdugan333		#1590	[-]
Posts: 11691 (09/18/09 12:39 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jellybelly71 wrote: i actually see the DR rigging as part of the game, in a true Orwellian sense. it's BB trying to control the HG's and seeing who falls in line with it and who says "fuck it" and thinks for themself. Amen Jelly. I think people forget that is what BB is all about.
SurvivorArctic		#1591	[-]
Posts: 22458 (09/18/09 12:43 PM) Not a team player Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jellybelly71 wrote: SimplyKimberly wrote: I hate the DR rigging. I want a true game. But I know it exists and have accepted it. Now I just care about the HGs I like staying in the house the longest they can. This isn't a game anymore. It is largely a very produced popularity contest. i actually see the DR rigging as part of the game, in a true Orwellian sense. it's BB trying to control the HG's and seeing who falls in line with it and who says "fuck it" and thinks for themself. Exactly!!!!!! It isn't called BIG BROTHER for nothing! I have been saying over and over since BB8 at least, that it is part OF the game and if it is so offensive - Stop.Watching. holy fuck i am having a major case of deja vu.
TheWhiteRabbit		#1592	[-]
Posts: 1202 (09/18/09 12:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I agree, it's part of the game, but why don't they just embrace it then? It would be so much easier for people accept if they came right out and said that BB is playing the game just like any other HG.
Zap1Music		#1593	[-]
Posts: 149 (09/18/09 12:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	TheWhiteRabbit wrote: Did DR really tell Janelle all that stuff? I remember the part where Will was talking about production coming down on him but I don't remember Janelle confronting Will about him calling her a bitch. Janelle walked up to Will in kitchen and said, "Did you call me a bitch?" Will said lets go to storage room and in there he said "Yea but I was joking around." Janelle had just come out of DR before walking up to Will. It was pretty short exchange and just confirmed to Janelle what DR was telling Janelle about Will not being on her side. The main thing is Janelle HATED Erika! The DR worked wonders turning Janelle around and getting her to vote out her partner Will and keeping Erika. The biggest thing was the DR and Erika convincing Janelle that she looked like a fool to america....that Will and Boogie were playing them girls as fools....talking behind their backs....laughing at them... Erika and somebody in DR were working together. Erika had personal friends in the DR. I have no proof of this just what they said on feeds..which supported it. Erika would call some DR people by name. Like "I just talked to my friend Bill" when she came out...something like that. Also, Janelle said on feeds the DR told her she looked like a fool to america....and Erika also told Janelle same thing.....yet Erika never believed it! That's the thing......Janelle would come out of DR and go talk to Erika....and say "Wow we've been scammed by Will and Boogie... we must look like complete idiots....tv viewers must be laughing at us....and Erika would say.... yea we've been so dumb to trust the guys..... Then Janelle gets out Will and Erika hates Janelle and loves Boogie again....best buddies with Boogie....like she always was..... its was a DR scam imho to get Janelle to save Erika and get out Will and looked like Erika was in on it. And cbs built that whole veto show around the girl power theme- promo's said it.......They knew in advance what Janelle was going to do....and really rammed the "you look like a fool to america right now Janelle....but if you vote out Will, you will be seen as a strong smart woman" into her in DR.
moviegirl11		#1594	[-]
Posts: 2726 (09/18/09 12:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I would be surprised if production really wanted to see a boogie/erika finale as opposed to a will/janelle one.
zixo x		#1595	[-]
Posts: 392 (09/18/09 12:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I remember when somebody discovered the erika pics on joshs web site he took them all down....was big cover up at time. Trying to hide she got on show by being friends with staff.
UnderMedicated		#1596	[-]
Posts: 257 (09/18/09 12:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't give a shit what the DR was telling Kevin, Kevin was going to do EXACTLY what the disgusting little twat wanted. He let her hold his balls the entire game. He sent Jeff out because SHE wanted it. He was more scared of Nasty than production.
LarrysRat		#1597	[-]
Posts: 500 (09/18/09 12:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Erika is now involved in casting and has cast Survivor 12-16, The Amazing Race 9-12^{[citation needed]} and just recently cast the next Bachelor. As of February 2008, Erika was engaged to Adam Gentry, a past contestant on Survivor: Cook Islands. Still working for CBS......and dating reality show people!@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erika_Landin she was ADVERTISED as a PILATEs INSTRUCTOR from chicago,,,,,lol
Blueberry.celebprowresting		#1598	[-]
Posts: 1481 (09/18/09 1:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	anders332 wrote: Typical DR interferrence - just odd that he put that out there in the media. they also tried to get Kevo to evict Jordan over Michele.......wonder how that would've played out if he had've listened. Did this potentially cost him a spot on All Stars?
TheWhiteRabbit		#1599	[-]
Posts: 1203 (09/18/09 1:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	UnderMedicated wrote: I don't give a shit what the DR was telling Kevin, Kevin was going to do EXACTLY what the disgusting little twat wanted. He let her hold his balls the entire game. He sent Jeff out because SHE wanted it. He was more scared of Nasty than production. I still wish Kevin had won that Final HOH. I was so looking forward to watching him finally betray Natalie. It would have been the highlight of the season for me.
LarrysRat		#1600	[-]
Posts: 501 (09/18/09 1:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	dont forget without game rigging jessie and his gang would have got out jordan and jeff next,,,,,,then bye bye michele and russell next bye bye kevin..then bye lydia.... Final 3 would have been Chima, Jessie, Natalie..... WOULD U REALLY HAVE BEEN WATCHING SHOW AT THAT POINT???? LOL

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