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Sole Survivor Genius |
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Jeff said in his blog @ EW, that Russell owns the idol, it's his to use.
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jay111890 |
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Sole Survivor Genius wrote: thanks! and now its time to lock this thread. |
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crocophile |
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birdlady wrote:Especially when you see the clue. After rewatching I'm thinking Russell actually finds it when Yasmin is at F-F. There is a scene 40 or so minutes in where Yasmin has a hissy and storms out of F-F with most of the tribe there. Russell is in his grimey underwear, just like when he finds the Hidden Idol. Mike is not in the scene where he finds the HI, but most of F-F is there.
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JT4ever |
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TAR Addict wrote:Actually, if you think about it, Jeff shouldn't say anything even when Galu goes to TC. After all, he made a big elaborate show of saying that the note to Yasmin was private. Since he didn't tell the rest of Galu that the note was about a HII (the way he normally says it when he has sent people off to Exile Island in the past), then the existence of the HII is technically still a secret, and JP has no business asking if anyone has it at any TC, whether at Foa Foa or at Galu. crocophile wrote:It's more complicated than that. The way the editing worked out, Russell's underwear was still spotless and his hair/bear still short when he first tells the tribe he's looking for the idol and sticks his head in the tree:
So that probably happened back in episode 1. However, the editors would also have us believe he also found and removed the idol during that same sequence. I call bullshit (or reenactment) on that. As you can see in these two posts, Russell had probably been looking for the idol for a while before he told Jaison he found it. When exactly did he first spot it, and when exactly did he remove it from its hiding place (the two events could have happened at separate times)? That's still unclear, no matter what the editors want us to believe.
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Stranded |
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I love that even when JT4Ever is flaming someone, they feel the need to edit. You're not impressing anyone by mocking other users at 68 posts.
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JT4ever |
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Stranded wrote:As long as I'm not impressing you, then it's all good. |
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mecansodemactors |
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TAR Addict wrote: In China Jeff never asked if anyone wanted to play it until after Jaime played the wooden board that she thought was the idol. They want it to be kept secret so I highly doubt he'll ask about it until they figure it out for themselves. |
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birdlady |
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Lots and lot of things are said during tribal council that aren't shown. What should happen is that Probst says
exactly the same thing about any immunity objects every single time, even if he knows there aren't any in play, and even if that's going to be edited
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JT4ever |
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birdlady wrote:Duh. The point is that TCs are edited for airing according to the known status of idols in play. |
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WhoLetTheBlTCHout |
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JT4ever wrote:Oh no you didn't just "DUH" birdlady!!!!! |
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crocophile |
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Clearly there is something going on with his undies in that sequence going from grimey to realtively clean to grimey. Clearly when he hauls the idol out and
talks to Jaison both look grimey. And clearly Mike is no where to be seen.
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JT4ever |
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crocophile wrote:Possible solo reenactment (the clean undies shots are isolated). Clearly when he hauls the idol out and talks to Jaison both look grimey.Fo sho. That's definitely after the challenge, and possibly even after the second TC (i.e. from next episode's time frame). And clearly Mike is no where to be seen.True, but then neither is Ashley. So that doesn't necessarily mean much. Also, as can be seen from one of the screens in the other thread, when he walks away from the tree with other tribe mates in the same shot, he's most definitely not hiding anything extra in his shorts. So he actually removed the idol from its hiding place at some other point. |
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crocophile |
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It means he's had access to a clue, which is the point. He and Jason are about as grimey as the camp sequence with Yasmin, which might give an
aproximate time.
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JT4ever |
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crocophile wrote:Not necessarily. He might have just noticed that Yasmin was sniffing around trees. Remember Guatemala and Hogeboom. He and Jason are about as grimey as the camp sequence with Yasmin, which might give an aproximate time.I think when he tells Jaison he looks significantly grimier, and more to the point, hairier than he looks during the camp sequence. |
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crocophile |
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JT4ever wrote: Gary, exactly my point, glad I'm getting through. |
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JT4ever |
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crocophile wrote:No, that wasn't exactly your point. You wrote, "Especially when you see the clue." There's no evidence Russell actually saw the clue. We can surmise that he might not have found the idol before Yasmin visited the camp, as the editing would have us believe. That's about it. glad I'm getting through.Nothing to be glad about. guatemala fanfic first introduced me to the idea some 35 hours ago. |
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crocophile |
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...and yes I know it was Judd before you start splitting hairs on that too.
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sddorme.idolnoise |
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Wolfie wrote: Thats wrong because it doesn't matter which one because think say Yasmin found it, then kept it later on in the game and aligned with Natalie and gave it to her and she used it, it'll still count |
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VolcanicGlass |
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Seriously?
- China had no Exile Island and the Hidden Idols were at camp. - China had players from the opposing tribe "visiting" the rival camp and given a parchment which contained clues to a Hidden Idol Plaque. - Tocantins had Hidden Idols at camp. Going into the game, four possibilities: 1) No Exile Island and no Hidden Idols. 2) No Exile Island and Hidden Idols located back at camp. 3) Exile Island and Hidden Idol(s) located there. 4) Exile Island and Hidden Idols located back at camp. Factoring only the possibilities for Hidden Idols to be in play, two out of three possibilities are for them to be back at camp. So, yes, you start looking on Day One. Of course. It's logical. It's smart. It doesn't require a script from Production. Once Probst handed the clue to Yasmin before she went back to Foa Foa, it should have been clear as a bell to anyone who had not figured it out by that point that there were Hidden Idols at play and that they were back at each respective camp. |
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