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solesurvivor123		#1301	[-]
Posts: 155 (10/10/09 10:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	1. Earl 2. Parvati 3. JT 4. Todd 5. Yul 6. Sandra 7. Chris 8. Amber 9. Richard 10. Jenna 11. Tom 12. Brian 13. Vecepia 14. Ethan 15. Danni 16. Aras 17. Tina
SleepTight		#1302	[-]
Posts: 113 (10/11/09 4:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	How was Jonathan an Idiot? Adam, Candice and Parvati were.
Zonker		#1303	[-]
Posts: 1165 (10/11/09 11:04 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	OrsNaz wrote: 1. Richard [Controlled the game from beginning to end.] 2. Brian [Hated the guy but he pretty much had the game from day 1] 3. Tina [Her and Colby pretty much decided who went when without any objections. No one even opposed them] 4. Todd [His biggest threat was Courtney. Enough said. Dominated the strategy aspect of the game.] 5. Parvati [Stupid cast aside, she had the perfect game. Flawless in my eyes. I rate her low because she obviously had a stupid cast, and the amount of quitters and evacuations really fucked up the game] 6. Tom [I hate him but he dominated both physically and mentally.] 7. J.T. [He managed to convince the entire opposing tribe to just throw the game away just with his personality. He booted the loose cannons, kept his cool and played a damn good game.] 8. Yul [The idol was too powerful at that time and Jonathan was an idiot. Yul was clearly the smartest and best social player of the season but that really doesn't say much.] 9. Ethan [Well liked, decently played] 10. Sandra [I really liked her, but some of her decisions made absolutely no sense. Laid low and managed to finally start playing a good game at final 5. Not bad otherwise.] 11. Earl [Heh.] 12. Jenna [Isolated tribe members, very shallow etc. Took her too long to start playing the game but when she did she did it flawlessly] 13. Aras [Loyal alliance & ok player. Way to vocal and obnoxious though] 14. Danni [Steph and Rafe were idiots. Sure she was likable but that doesn't make her a good player, it just makes Steph and Rafe terrible players. They literally knocked off all their alliance members and their best chances of winning the game. Plus, not keeping lydia? Retarded] 15. Chris [Twila was the mastermind, this douchebag just got lucky. She literally need to spell out E-L-I-Z-A for him, without that he never would have even approached her. Sure he played it good from then on but it was that one move that changed the game and thus Twila should have won] 16. Vecepia [Im still shaking my head] 17. Amber [Boston Rob, thats all I need to say. She did absolutely nothing] 18. Bob [Great at challenges, but the only reason he made it past the final 8 is because of Sugar playing it up for the cameras. Terrible winner. Sugar dominated the entire game and only lost because of a bitter jury. Susie deserved it more than Bob] Spot on! Except that I would switch Brian and Tina.
ElisabethNelehHeidiRok		#1304	[-]
Posts: 1481 (10/15/09 11:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SleepTight wrote: How was Jonathan an Idiot? Adam, Candice and Parvati were. Ha well he could have made it to the final 5 had he been smart enough to tell them Yul had the idol, to get rid of Becky or Sundra at f10. anyway. 1.Jenna 2.Sandra 3.Parvati 4.Amanda 5.Ethan 6.Yul 7.Tina 8.Todd 9.Brian 10.Danni 11.Tom 12.Bob 13.JT 14.Earl 15.Richard 16.Aras 17.Vecepia 18.Chris
GauchGauch		#1305	[-]
Posts: 40 (10/16/09 5:38 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	18 - Tina : I always hated her. 17 - Brian : Good winner in term of gameplay but horrible otherwise 16 - Todd : Spencer deserves better 15 - Amber : Self-explanatory 14 - Aras : meh 13 - Earl : meh 2.0 12 - Yul : Boring 11 - Bob : Ok 10 - Parvati : I dislike the fact she was casted in Micronesia but she improved her game so I liked her the second time. 9 - JT 8 - Chris : He was funny. 7 - Jenna : I hated her in The Amazon but she was one of the rare people I liked during AS. She's a good girl now. 6 - Vecepia : She's underrated IMO 5 - Ethan : I didn't see Africa but I liked him a lot in AS. 4 - Tom : Great guy. 3 - Danni : I loved her. 2 - Richard : Liked him a lot during Bornéo. Again, one of the few people I liked in AS (with Ethan, Jenna and Shii Ann) 1 - Sandra : I know she's not the best winner in term of strategy but she was really entertaining.
Zesty66		#1306	[-]
Posts: 1718 (10/16/09 8:19 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	1. Parvati 2. Sandra 3. Jenna 4. Richard 5. Danni 6. Tina 7. Chris 8. Tom 9. Ethan 10. Aras 11. Vecepia 12. Todd 13. Amber 14. Brian 15. Bob 16. Earl 17. Yul 18. JT
OrsNaz		#1307	[-]
Posts: 213 (10/16/09 11:35 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SleepTight wrote: How was Jonathan an Idiot? Adam, Candice and Parvati were. Why the fuck was Jonathan threatened by the idol? They had a selection of 3 people to vote off with the numbers. They didn't need to target Yul. Jonathan, knowing that Yul had the idol, could have gone back to Parv, Nate, Adam, & Candice and told them thus they could have just knocked off Sandra/Becky depending on who seemed less likely to be given the idol. Repeat the process next tribal council until only Yul & Becky/Ozzy remain. That way, they had at least 5 against 2 or if Ozzy lost immunity 1. I mean if Danielle Dilorzenzo could figure that out during her season, Im pretty sure Jonathan is an idiot.
saltidor		#1308	[-]
Posts: 48 (10/16/09 12:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	1. Sandra 2. Tina 3. Ethan 4. Richard 5. JT 6. Parvati 7. Aras 8. Tom 9. Chris 10. Brian 11. Jenna 12. Bob 13. Vecepia 14. Amber 15. Yul 16. Danni 17. Todd 18. Earl its not based on deserving, just who i liked the most
GrenadeJumper85		#1309	[-]
Posts: 14021 (10/16/09 12:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I can't really rank them because every winner deserved to win, but I usually like to put them in sort of groups. Top Tier: Richard, Brian, Tina, Vee, Earl, Tom, Todd Mid Tier: Yul, Sandra, Parv, JT, Jenna Lower Tier: Chris, Bob, Danni, Aras, Ethan, Amber
ilovekelly752		#1310	[-]
Posts: 59 (10/16/09 2:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	based on strategy 18. Chris Daugherty 17. Tom Westman 16. Amber Brkich 15. Vecepia Towery 14. JT Thomas 13. Bob Crowley 12. Jenna Morasca 11. Aras Baskauskas 10. Ethan Zohn 9. Earl Cole 8. Brian Heidik 7. Yul Kwon 6. Sandra Diaz-Twine 5. Danni Boatwright 4. Richard Hatch 3. Tina Wesson 2. Parvati Shallow 1. Todd Herzog based on likeability 18. Brian Heidik 17. Chris Daugherty 16. Tom Westman 15. Earl Cole 14. Yul Kwon 13. Bob Crowley 12. Danni Boatwright 11. Richard Hatch 10. Tina Wesson 9. Amber Brkich 8. Ethan Zohn 7. JT Thomas 6. Vecepia Towery 5. Aras Baskauskas 4. Parvati Shallow 3. Jenna Morasca 2. Sandra Diaz-Twine 1. Todd Herzog Last Edited By: ilovekelly752 10/28/09 7:46 PM. Edited 3 times.
Maniacboy888		#1311	[-]
Posts: 2798 (10/16/09 3:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	How did Tom let Ian and Katie make all the strategic decisions? - Voting off Willard was everyone's agreement - Coby didn't get along with Tom basically anyone except Janu - Janu quit, Koror wanted her to stay - Caryn wouldn't vote with the women cause she felt allegiance to Tom and ratted out their plans, Stephanie gone - Tom and Ian discussed voting off Greg, pulled in Caryn - Tom was done with Caryn and her bitchiness and kicked her off, Ian and Katie had major meltdowns at this point and Ian wanted to quit - Tom learned that Ian wanted to screw him over so he attacked Ian's character, Tom voted against him and only stayed cause he made a fire quicker then Jenn - Tom managed to have his biggest competition for the jury quit on the last day by emotionally and mentally dominating him, I mean thats amazing! - Coby said he only voted out of spite because he never got along with Tom Therefore i don't understand how you can say he was a physical force only.
ilovekelly752		#1312	[-]
Posts: 61 (10/16/09 3:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Maniacboy888 wrote: How did Tom let Ian and Katie make all the strategic decisions? - Voting off Willard was everyone's agreement - Coby didn't get along with Tom basically anyone except Janu - Janu quit, Koror wanted her to stay - Caryn wouldn't vote with the women cause she felt allegiance to Tom and ratted out their plans, Stephanie gone - Tom and Ian discussed voting off Greg, pulled in Caryn - Tom was done with Caryn and her bitchiness and kicked her off, Ian and Katie had major meltdowns at this point and Ian wanted to quit - Tom learned that Ian wanted to screw him over so he attacked Ian's character, Tom voted against him and only stayed cause he made a fire quicker then Jenn - Tom managed to have his biggest competition for the jury quit on the last day by emotionally and mentally dominating him, I mean thats amazing! - Coby said he only voted out of spite because he never got along with Tom Therefore i don't understand how you can say he was a physical force only. - Katie was the one who initiated Williard, and everyone, including Tom agreed. It was everyone's agreement, but it's not like they all said Williard's name at the eact same time. Someone had to convince people to do it. It was very easy, but it was done by Katie. - Katie also got everyone to go against Coby, because he was trying to manipulate Stephenie in front of everyone, and Katie was the one who told everybody not to trust him, and they all agreed with her to vote him out. That was another easy one. - Janu quit, which has nothing to do with Tom being a good strategic player. - This was the one good move he made. I forgot about this. Getting Karen on his side was a very good move, as with getting Ian on his side in the beginning, but Gregg was the one who convinced Tom to go against Stephenie. Tom wanted her to stay, because he thought she would be loyal to him and Ian. - This was Ian's idea, and he did all the convincing. Tom pretty much just nodded and agreed, and didn't really say anything of any significance. Ian also got Katie to make it a majority. - Ian initiated people going against Caryn. - Tom was manipulated by Jenn in this situation. - Why are you giving Tom credit for Ian quitting? It's not like Tom got him to quit on prupose. - Coby said he voted for Katie because Katie was honest. He didn't get along with either of them. The others might've thought Tom was a better player because of challenges, but mine is just based on strategy. It seems like you're giving Tom credit for going along with plans that other people had. He went with Jenn on one, Gregg on one, and either Ian or Katie on the others. That's like giving credit to Denise for making all of the strategic moves in Survivor: China because she talked about it with the people who were actually making the decisions. You are right about him getting Karen, which helped him a lot. That's more than I remembered, but I don't think that's enough to put him over Jenna, because I think Jenna was better at making allies. Tom was great in challenges, and deserved to win, but not based on strategy. It's just my opinion.
SurvivorNinja		#1313	[-]
Posts: 2898 (10/16/09 7:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	18 - Earl Cole 17 - Jenna Morasca 16 - Aras Baskauskas 15 - Ethan Zohn 14 - Bob Crowley 13 - JT Thomas 12 - Yul Kwon 11 - Amber Brkich 10 - Tina Wesson 9 - Sandra Diaz Twine 8 - Chris Daugherty 7 - Vecepia Towery 6 - Danni Boatwright 5 - Todd Herzog 4 - Brian Heidik 3 - Parvati Shallow 2 - Richard Hatch 1 - Tom Westman
mennonite		#1314	[-]
Posts: 25 (10/23/09 5:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	18. Earl 17. JT 16. Bob 15. Yul 14. Amber 13. Aras 12. Brian 11. Vecepia 10. Chris 9. Tom 8. Jenna 7. Danni 6. Ethan 5. Sandra 4. Todd 3. Parvati 2. Richard 1. Tina
hollybear141414	I like Greju's system	#1315	[-]
Posts: 6241 (10/23/09 6:53 PM) I want a penis in my vagina like NOW!!!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Top Tier: Richard, Parvarti, Ethan, JT, Todd, Sandra Mid Tier: Yul, Bob, Aras, Amber, Earl, Tom Lower Tier: Chris, Brian, Danni, Vee, Tina, Jenna
chaddie		#1316	[-]
Posts: 73 (10/23/09 8:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	OrsNaz wrote: 1. Richard [Controlled the game from beginning to end.] 2. Brian [Hated the guy but he pretty much had the game from day 1] 3. Tina [Her and Colby pretty much decided who went when without any objections. No one even opposed them] 4. Todd [His biggest threat was Courtney. Enough said. Dominated the strategy aspect of the game.] 5. Parvati [Stupid cast aside, she had the perfect game. Flawless in my eyes. I rate her low because she obviously had a stupid cast, and the amount of quitters and evacuations really fucked up the game] 6. Tom [I hate him but he dominated both physically and mentally.] 7. J.T. [He managed to convince the entire opposing tribe to just throw the game away just with his personality. He booted the loose cannons, kept his cool and played a damn good game.] 8. Yul [The idol was too powerful at that time and Jonathan was an idiot. Yul was clearly the smartest and best social player of the season but that really doesn't say much.] 9. Ethan [Well liked, decently played] 10. Sandra [I really liked her, but some of her decisions made absolutely no sense. Laid low and managed to finally start playing a good game at final 5. Not bad otherwise.] 11. Earl [Heh.] 12. Jenna [Isolated tribe members, very shallow etc. Took her too long to start playing the game but when she did she did it flawlessly] 13. Aras [Loyal alliance & ok player. Way to vocal and obnoxious though] 14. Danni [Steph and Rafe were idiots. Sure she was likable but that doesn't make her a good player, it just makes Steph and Rafe terrible players. They literally knocked off all their alliance members and their best chances of winning the game. Plus, not keeping lydia? Retarded] 15. Chris [Twila was the mastermind, this douchebag just got lucky. She literally need to spell out E-L-I-Z-A for him, without that he never would have even approached her. Sure he played it good from then on but it was that one move that changed the game and thus Twila should have won] 16. Vecepia [Im still shaking my head] 17. Amber [Boston Rob, thats all I need to say. She did absolutely nothing] 18. Bob [Great at challenges, but the only reason he made it past the final 8 is because of Sugar playing it up for the cameras. Terrible winner. Sugar dominated the entire game and only lost because of a bitter jury. Susie deserved it more than Bob] i actually agree with this list, except for a few people i would have low just coz i hated them [cough JT cough]
crazywhores		#1317	[-]
Posts: 18 (10/23/09 8:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	players who deserved to win: rich, tina, todd, jt, parv players who won because they were the lesser of two (or three) evils: brian, v, yul, chris, mick :)
OrsNaz		#1318	[-]
Posts: 230 (10/23/09 10:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	chaddie wrote: OrsNaz wrote: 1. Richard [Controlled the game from beginning to end.] 2. Brian [Hated the guy but he pretty much had the game from day 1] 3. Tina [Her and Colby pretty much decided who went when without any objections. No one even opposed them] 4. Todd [His biggest threat was Courtney. Enough said. Dominated the strategy aspect of the game.] 5. Parvati [Stupid cast aside, she had the perfect game. Flawless in my eyes. I rate her low because she obviously had a stupid cast, and the amount of quitters and evacuations really fucked up the game] 6. Tom [I hate him but he dominated both physically and mentally.] 7. J.T. [He managed to convince the entire opposing tribe to just throw the game away just with his personality. He booted the loose cannons, kept his cool and played a damn good game.] 8. Yul [The idol was too powerful at that time and Jonathan was an idiot. Yul was clearly the smartest and best social player of the season but that really doesn't say much.] 9. Ethan [Well liked, decently played] 10. Sandra [I really liked her, but some of her decisions made absolutely no sense. Laid low and managed to finally start playing a good game at final 5. Not bad otherwise.] 11. Earl [Heh.] 12. Jenna [Isolated tribe members, very shallow etc. Took her too long to start playing the game but when she did she did it flawlessly] 13. Aras [Loyal alliance & ok player. Way to vocal and obnoxious though] 14. Danni [Steph and Rafe were idiots. Sure she was likable but that doesn't make her a good player, it just makes Steph and Rafe terrible players. They literally knocked off all their alliance members and their best chances of winning the game. Plus, not keeping lydia? Retarded] 15. Chris [Twila was the mastermind, this douchebag just got lucky. She literally need to spell out E-L-I-Z-A for him, without that he never would have even approached her. Sure he played it good from then on but it was that one move that changed the game and thus Twila should have won] 16. Vecepia [Im still shaking my head] 17. Amber [Boston Rob, thats all I need to say. She did absolutely nothing] 18. Bob [Great at challenges, but the only reason he made it past the final 8 is because of Sugar playing it up for the cameras. Terrible winner. Sugar dominated the entire game and only lost because of a bitter jury. Susie deserved it more than Bob] i actually agree with this list, except for a few people i would have low just coz i hated them [cough JT cough] I tried to be as unbiased as possible. I hate Tom..like really hate him. Same goes for Brian but you gotta give it up for the good players right? I love Sierra but I would never embarrass myself by ever thinking she was a decent player. J.T. had complete control of his initial tribe, then went to the merge with 3 vs. 6, he managed to turn the entire game over to him. He managed to maintain the nice guy act by not voting for Coach, who obviously had a large impact on the large portion of the jury members. He knocked off Sierra when she became a threat. He knocked off Deb too. He kept Erinn around as a just in case and his final tribal was perfect. Hate him or love him, his game was flawless.
OutwitOutplay		#1319	[-]
Posts: 28 (10/23/09 11:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	^ Thank you for actually voting logically. Too many people rate based on who they like and don't like. I think this list is extremely accurate. I would put Tom at four, though, because I think he played a masterful game. The only time someone made a decision for him was when Ian decided to oust Greg, but let's be honest: Tom would have figured it out, as well, while the others were gone. Ian just voiced it first. That means in an entire season Tom had one time he was helped by someone else. Tom is given too much crap because everyone around here seems to dislike him (I get the feeling it's a "hate the Yankees 'cause they're great" syndrome), but call a spade a spade. He was a great player. Tina was helped repeatedly by Colby and we don't punish her for it because she was using Colby to get to the end. Tom also leaned a bit on Ian to be his eyes and ears and to work things out with strategically. And JT -- heck -- Stephen was The Wizard of Oz controlling the game. But that doesn't make JT that much less of a winner. It just means he picked the right wing man. MANY a winner has had someone who helped him or her. With Parvati, Cirie did a BOAT LOAD of the work. 1. Hatch 2. Brian 3. Tina 4. Tom 5. Sandra 6. JT 7. Parvati
OutwitOutplay		#1320	[-]
Posts: 30 (10/24/09 1:17 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	ilovekelly752 wrote: Maniacboy888 wrote: How did Tom let Ian and Katie make all the strategic decisions? - Voting off Willard was everyone's agreement - Coby didn't get along with Tom basically anyone except Janu - Janu quit, Koror wanted her to stay - Caryn wouldn't vote with the women cause she felt allegiance to Tom and ratted out their plans, Stephanie gone - Tom and Ian discussed voting off Greg, pulled in Caryn - Tom was done with Caryn and her bitchiness and kicked her off, Ian and Katie had major meltdowns at this point and Ian wanted to quit - Tom learned that Ian wanted to screw him over so he attacked Ian's character, Tom voted against him and only stayed cause he made a fire quicker then Jenn - Tom managed to have his biggest competition for the jury quit on the last day by emotionally and mentally dominating him, I mean thats amazing! - Coby said he only voted out of spite because he never got along with Tom Therefore i don't understand how you can say he was a physical force only. - Katie was the one who initiated Williard, and everyone, including Tom agreed. It was everyone's agreement, but it's not like they all said Williard's name at the eact same time. Someone had to convince people to do it. It was very easy, but it was done by Katie. - Katie also got everyone to go against Coby, because he was trying to manipulate Stephenie in front of everyone, and Katie was the one who told everybody not to trust him, and they all agreed with her to vote him out. That was another easy one. - Janu quit, which has nothing to do with Tom being a good strategic player. - This was the one good move he made. I forgot about this. Getting Karen on his side was a very good move, as with getting Ian on his side in the beginning, but Gregg was the one who convinced Tom to go against Stephenie. Tom wanted her to stay, because he thought she would be loyal to him and Ian. - This was Ian's idea, and he did all the convincing. Tom pretty much just nodded and agreed, and didn't really say anything of any significance. Ian also got Katie to make it a majority. - Ian initiated people going against Caryn. - Tom was manipulated by Jenn in this situation. - Why are you giving Tom credit for Ian quitting? It's not like Tom got him to quit on prupose. - Coby said he voted for Katie because Katie was honest. He didn't get along with either of them. The others might've thought Tom was a better player because of challenges, but mine is just based on strategy. It seems like you're giving Tom credit for going along with plans that other people had. He went with Jenn on one, Gregg on one, and either Ian or Katie on the others. That's like giving credit to Denise for making all of the strategic moves in Survivor: China because she talked about it with the people who were actually making the decisions. You are right about him getting Karen, which helped him a lot. That's more than I remembered, but I don't think that's enough to put him over Jenna, because I think Jenna was better at making allies. Tom was great in challenges, and deserved to win, but not based on strategy. It's just my opinion. Since when does being involved in every single decision warrant being a great winner? Tom was great with going with the flow when he had to, of letting others take the credit when he needed to let them, and of working his butt off to control the vote (or to manipulate feelings) when he had no other options. He had a thousand different weapons in his arsenal, which is why he's perceived as an amazing player.

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