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Posts: 6754 (10/16/09 4:21 PM) Registered user |
How is it possible that TLC can cut Jon off and expect him to not try and make money? TLC can't have it both ways. If they don't want him on the show,
let him go do what he wants.
He's making it hard to stay on his team but I'm confident he will be the victor in this. Team Jon! |
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robbiefan |
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Posts: 5766 (10/16/09 4:34 PM) Registered user |
Good one TLC! Make the fucker bleed.
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Pumpkin37 |
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Posts: 2435 (10/16/09 5:51 PM) Registered User |
If Jon didn't want to honor the contract, he shouldn't have signed it. It was all well and good when they had nothing and needed the money. Now the
tool thinks he has a 'career' and wants out. And he wasn't 'cut out'-he was receiving the same money as before.
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Posts: 194 (10/16/09 5:52 PM) |
SmalltownBoy wrote:He signed the exclusive contract that probably guaranteed him income whether or not they used him. And if he signed an agreement of this type that didn't guarantee income, then his history of following bad legal advice goes back even further than the divorce. Until the contract runs out, it's valid - neither party can just walk away from the signed agreement because they have since changed their mind. |
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Charming Nemesis |
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Posts: 8679 (10/16/09 6:55 PM) |
TLC looks the worst in all this. They think they own the kids. They own Kate. FIGHT THE POWER, JON!
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Keetos |
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Posts: 33 (10/16/09 7:14 PM) |
Stigmata Martyr wrote:Thanks for posting this, Stigmata - completely agree. I didn't quite understand how Jon was complaining that "Kate didn't leave" but then went on (in the same interview) to say it was her custody day... and we all had seen the clip of him bitching about her asking him to split the time so they could each have a couple hours of birthday celebration alone with the kids to (hopefully) lessen the stress and he adamantly said he was NOT going to do it. I'm all for various dads posting about how the guy always/usually gets screwed in divorce/custody wars (and agree for the most part), but really - making Jon the poster boy and trying to defend him at every turn does nothing but hurt their cause. I wish they'd pick someone to defend who is not basically shooting himself in the foot at every turn and CAUSING a lot of his own issues... not the courts, not Kate... HIM. |
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 LOLABINGO |
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Posts: 7778 (10/16/09 7:41 PM) |
Jon taking on TLC was idiotic. He signed a contract, he breached it, tough shit for Jon.
Jon may not have wanted the kids on the show (I don't buy it, I think, from his interviews, he was just trying to fuck with TLC because he hates them and is stupid) but he DOES want the money. As for Kate going back to nursing? Yeah, she could. The kids would never see their mom, and their dipshit dad going after "get rich quick" schemes with unscrupulous people like the T-shirt thing--where, by the way, HE WAS GOING TO USE HIS KIDS, isn't going to pay the bills. He wants to eat the cake, have it too, and doesn't seem to realize it needs to be baked first. Maybe when he defaults on his fancy, non-kid friendly, expensive digs in NYC, he will finally realize what a fucking idiot he is he will be begging TLC for the show and for the money, and they will be happy to tell him to fuck off. Kate may not be the typical version of "maternal" but she is the one who figured out how to put money in the bank while Jon whined. She wrote books, she did tours, she complied with her contract, and allowed Jon and herself to spend time with the kids instead of off at a "real job" 9-5. She's a bitch, no question, but Jon is, and was, just another child. |
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Frankie G Morris |
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Posts: 18803 (10/16/09 7:55 PM) All your ghosts are belong to us |
LOLABINGO wrote: Why would the kids NEVER see Kate if she went back to working?? Nurses can work varying schedules because they are needed 24 hours a day - 7 days a week. She could put in lots of hours during the time the kids are in school when it is her custody week, and when it is Jon's she could work 12 hour days. Most nurses have children, and still manage to work and see their kids. |
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LOLABINGO |
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Posts: 7779 (10/16/09 8:03 PM) |
8 kids on a nurses salary would be tough. It's not like Jon is going to bring in any money.
My RN friends all seem to work 12 hour shifts, 4 days one week, 3 the next...but I am sure that varries by hospital. As a new hire though, I would imagine that night shifts would be the first shifts available while building seniority--even then, you sleep all day. Not much kid time. My main point was that you don't maintain that huge house and a NYC condo without that TLC money, especially when you breach contract and get sued. Jon's an idiot, who was trying to set up a show featuring his kids on some other network...bullshit he is pulling the plug "for his kids." This was all a really lame attempt at seizing power, and frankly, the turd doesn't have the smarts to make power-plays. |
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Kitten Gloves |
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Posts: 10270 (10/16/09 8:19 PM) Registered User |
Seriously, what? Do you think none of the nurses in the country work? Kate worked for a physicians group before, the same one that hooked her up with fertility
drugs to help breed her litter. And who gives a fuck if they can maintain that house or not? Plenty of families live in smaller homes and do fine. Honestly,
she doen't HAVE to have hair, nails, faketan, etc... all the time. Thye can both downsize and live like everyone else.
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Frankie G Morris |
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Posts: 18804 (10/16/09 8:24 PM) All your ghosts are belong to us |
I do agree - they won't be able to maintain their current living situation without the show unless they saved/invested really well (doesn't sound like
it). They will have to scale back on the perks, and get real jobs.
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LOLABINGO |
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Posts: 7783 (10/16/09 8:29 PM) |
Who said they couldn't?
I just think that Kate made a damn good decision early on to do the show. She and her husband were able to be with the kids, and (hopefully) sock away some money for college and the rest, and meanwhile get enough money to live well. Comparing have six babies at once, while already having two toddlers to a "normal" family is silly. It is just not the same. Hell, one toddler and one baby is hard enough. I just think it was a smart thing to do. As for now, I don't give a flying fuck what happens to Jon and Kate, other than the entertaining popcorn mess Jon is creating by acting like the idiot he is, fucking around with 20-somethings, wanting to be "just Jon" and being completely untrained for any job that would even pay his utilities at his NYC pad, let alone the co-op fees and rent! They are both assholes, I just prefer my assholes straight up, rather than passive-aggressive and whiny...so Kate as a (very) slight edge with me. I also think that Jon very much wants the money he makes off of his kids, or perhaps "made" is the proper tense. Perhaps he thinks he can just clean out the savings and live off of that? Either way, it's all money from the kids, and from TLC. |
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Frankie G Morris |
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Posts: 18805 (10/16/09 8:33 PM) All your ghosts are belong to us |
Who said they couldn't what?
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Posts: 747 (10/16/09 8:41 PM) Registered user |
this never ends.
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LOLABINGO |
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Posts: 7784 (10/16/09 8:49 PM) |
Who said they couldn't what?
Downsize. I was responding to Kitten. Do I think the kids have had a better life because of the show? Yeah, I do, but I can certainly understand those who feel differently about that. The show had it's downside for the kids too, but then again, when I was a kid, we WERE poor, and had the whole working mom thing. It sucked. I would have happily traded privacy for more time with mom, and not worrying about juggling bills and hoping the landlord didn't evict us--let alone being able to pay for medical insurance, better food, school activity things, hell--any of it. They would have had two parents working and very little money coming in. Childcare would have probably been more than Jon's entire salary if he hadn't been fired for stealing. I doubt the marriage would have lasted as long as it did, frankly. |
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SurvivorArctic |
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Posts: 22951 (10/16/09 8:53 PM) Not a team player
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You are nuts.
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Posts: 20513 (10/16/09 8:59 PM) |
The kids don't really see much of Kate now, if you ask me. Even when she's actually on the premises, they're with the Nanny since Kate is soooo
busy doing "her work". Pffft.
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Pumpkin37 |
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Posts: 2436 (10/16/09 10:57 PM) Registered User |
Why is it always assumed that if you feel Jon is a complete looser (AND HE IS) that you are sticking up for Kate? I always thought she was a shrew-but she is
clearly the more responsible, if nothing else, of these two!!
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RobVanStratus |
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Posts: 9368 (10/16/09 11:39 PM) Registered User |
Kate was still a c.unt about the birthday party for the twins. I never read once that Kate had custody that day, I was hearing that they shared custody that
day for the birthday. If they both have custody for the day, Kate has zero right to deny Jon the right to see his children. Besides Kate is being a huge c.unt,
she made a comment after the divorce announcement on the show that she would never miss a holiday with the children. So basically she wants claim for every
holiday with them, which isn't fair if Jon wants to spend time with them on Thanksgiving or the 4th of July, Kate will just snatch them up and say she
called holidays first.
But back to the whole lawsuit thing. TLC has to be careful about claiming Jon violated their contract, because didn't they also announce he was off the show and thus his contract should be over? So if they sue about appearances post-contract, they can't really sue. Plus Jon should point out in a counter-suit how TLC definitely was working on a PR tour for Kate to look great and didn't give him permission to defend himself in media appearances. By approving Kate appearances on all the news shows, she got to look like this sobbing mess of a single mother that was scorned by her vengeful husband. By denying Jon appearances, he looks like a coward that is too afraid to speak to the media and defend himself, which many may see as guilt. I'm sure there is some form of contact between Kate and TLC that can be documented about how she should act to make herself and TLC look great, while smashing Jon's reputation. |
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LOLABINGO |
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Posts: 7788 (10/17/09 12:15 AM) |
Somehow I would bet that the fine print favors TLC. They didn't say he was off the show, they said they were changing the name.
And, seriously, it is possible to dislike BOTH of these people...I do, although I appreciate the entertainment they are providing these days, it must really suck for the kids--now, and in the future. |
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