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Oowatanite |
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Considering that Liz mentioned racial stereotypes in ep1, I find it odd that she wasn't shown as a target of racist Ben (that I recall) or she wasn't
shown at camp or either TC commenting on Ben's unrepentant attacks on Yasmin.
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James Barber |
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The only time she was shown commenting was in a confessional in the E3 Insider. She basically said that she didn't think he should speak that way. She also
said that everyone on the tribe had tried to help Ben because he was a teammate. I think Ben, for whatever reason, had something that made a lot of the team
want to support him, or they were endeared to him. Even Betsy didn't hate him entirely when she left. I guess the only one who saw through that was Marisa.
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seltzer3 |
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lol, is Liz going to be the next Teresa in the spoiling community (everyone is going to predict her to get voted off every episode, until she gets voted off)?
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Aitu4fan27 |
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seltzer3 wrote:haha I forget why did everyone think Teresa was gonna get voted off? |
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seltzer3 |
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I kind of forgot, but I remember people predicted Teresa going from episode 5 all the way to episode 11.
I think it was that Diane Ogden kept saying she was really good friends with Teresa. So everyone thought Teresa was pre-jury. I still don't understood why some spoiler sites kept predicting her after episode 7 though. |
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Aitu4fan27 |
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seltzer3 wrote:your right. I just looked it up in The History Of Spoilers thread. Basically Diane listed everybody who left pre jury as a friend AND Teresa |
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roxbury123 |
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I just want to say something (being from New York). All this spec is coming from a "interview" with a newspaper. Every Season of Survivor, any New
Yorkers on that season get the same type of article. I know for a fact Corinne and Charlie had the same thing. And in Corinne's part she basically said she
hated everyone, and sounded bitter and still went far.
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IvanV |
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Yeah, but Corinne is a bitchy, bitter woman. Liz doesn't come off to me that way, so something MUST have happened to her to make her react that way.
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goohst |
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Somebody (Betsy?) called Liz the female version of Russell. Just for your knowledge. She must've been rubbing some people the wrong way early on, which
could explain a.) the negativity in her article, and she makes jury or b.) why she is the next boot.
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LibrasAbandonedChild1 |
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^ It was Marisa who said that. ^
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Kubin |
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I didnt see any deceitful moments of Liz until now.
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cindidindi76 |
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That's because Russell is the zomg worstest villian ever to exist on the planet, so they don't have time to show a pesky female being deceitful.
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Chinchilla23 |
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all the clues so far this season seem to foreshadow a Liz win. 1) Russ H, Natalie, and Foa Foa member in the final three according to spoilers 2) Jeff implies
no "JT" like winner ruling out Mick or Jaison (also probably means neither make it to final tribal) 3) In his blog Jeff describes Liz as a schemer
alongside Russell 4) Liz refers to Asian Americans as sneaky in the premiere 5) Russ H. says Liz "is going to be dangerous for me in this game" 6)
Liz has been shown as both intelligent (figuring out Russell has the idol) and strong (her incredible performance in the last immunity challenge) 7) She is
good at evaluating people (Ashley will be bad at the eating challenge) 8) Although he may not trust her, Russell would take Liz to the final tribal over Mick.
He will assume Mick is a bigger threat against the jury and/or in the final immunity challenges. I expect Mick to get blindsided at final 6 or final 5. 9) Liz
is Ivy League educated and will probably present a very convincing argument to the jury. Based on the strength she has shown thus far I also wouldn't put
it past her to go on a late immunity run. Every season there is one episode that stands out and basically tells you this player is winning. Well,
Thursday's episode tells me Liz is winning this game. I wouldn't bet my life on it but I'd bet big money.
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cindidindi76 |
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Well, thank goodness you wouldn't bet your life on it. Your family would probably miss you.
1) According to spoilers, the final three isn't "Russ, Natalie, and another FF member", it's "Russ, Natalie and Mick". 2) The fact that this is now the Evil Russell and Shambo Show means that no matter who wins, it won't be a JI-like winner. 3)Irrelevant 4) Again, has nothing to do with her winning or not winning. And she said that was a stereotype. 5) So? 6)Again, so? Plenty of intelligent people who are good at challenges don't win this game. 7)Same as above. 8) While I do agree with you that Russell would probably choose to bring Liz to the jury rather than Mick, it isn't actually all up to Russell. I know it's hard to tell from the editing, but there's actually a whole bunch of other people out there. 9) She probably would present a good argument to the jury, but she will/would have a hard time getting there. |
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viciousmaturity |
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As much as Liz is the only player I'd like to see win, I cannot picture her making the finals. Yes, we have been given subtle "clues" to her
longevity (and on paper, she seems like she knows what she's doing), but there are just as many clues to her ouster. Now, if let's say, she does make
merge, and these reports are true that not many of the women end up getting along with her (seems like Marisa, Betsy, and Ashley didn't even like her that
much, so wouldn't be surprised if the Galu girls end up disliking her too), she will be the first of the FF to fall with too many people targetting her.
Russell will not likely win against Mick. But if Russell takes the game personally and conspires with the Galu to "Sacrifice" Liz in exchange for brownie points, Russell will only have to choose between 3 other players to take two with him to the finals. These are Mick, Natalie, and Shambo. Taking a core Galu member may be risky enough to take to the finals, considering their numbers in the jury... From where it stands, taking Shambo and Natalie to the finals would probably be in Russell's best interests (going up against a passive player and a socially awkward player)... but remember, Russell is kind of misogynistic too. He's only ever fully trusted men in this game. And he might value them more to the point that he would consider his relationship with them as friendship, hence taking Mick to the end. Or Mick goes on an immunity run? But I guess we'll have to wait and see the social dynamics post merge. |
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Zonker |
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Liz not making the merge will make this season a failure.
That is all. |
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Kubin |
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Liz
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craig |
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Liz is about to become the anti-Teresa.
Teresa was thought to go early because the early boots saw her as a friend. Liz was thought to last because thje early boots hated her. |
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TheEasyOne |
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not so much everyone hates her, it's the fact Marisa/Betsey/Mike/Ben were all voted out by Liz and her alliance. |
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craig |
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Ashley didn't like Liz either.
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