Did anyone else give serious thought as to what Paul's idea was? hehehe. I actually spent a few minutes trying to "read" his mind.
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tarzan groupie |
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Loved this episode. It had lots of interesting things happening. Especially loved the part where Peggy practically became Don when thinking about the campaign.
Brilliant.
Did anyone else give serious thought as to what Paul's idea was? hehehe. I actually spent a few minutes trying to "read" his mind. |
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salome2000 |
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It is weird that they are selling, in that you'd think the British guy (what's his name??) would not be so surpised since he's worked for that
company so long. But it does explain in the bigger picture why they didn't go to bat for Don in telling Hilton he didn't want a contract. They need
their assets secured in order for the "interested party" to become the "buyer." I doubted it would be Hilton, because so far the show
hasn't done anything that blatantly not in line with actual history, but he *was* at the party. They're either laying hints or tossing in a red
herring.
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ThaimeAfterThaime |
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I loved and was surprised that Betty wasn't even phased by the money in the drawer. I agree that she hasn't put Dick/Don together yet, but is pissed
about the divorce. Don obviously never told her, plus if she looked at the date, she would know that he was still married while engaged to her.
I was wondering about Duck's company buying SC, but I think it's too small. I think this Connie thing will blow up in Don's face, probably in the season finale. Since they know they're returning for a fourth season, maybe they'll have a cliffhanger. And the Don/Peggy/Paul meeting was perfection. Loved it. I feel badly for Peggy ... if she were a guy, she would have the chance to be really successful, but she has no shot. |
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PAPAYOKE |
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I'm thinking the British guy might be as disappointed as he is surprised (if not more so). He likes America and how the people are less class-oriented than
England (his comment about no one asking him where he went to school). Besides the fact that he probably is paid well for his position, I think he genuinely
likes working at SC. His wife wanting to go back to England is the perfect wrinkle for that subplot. I agree that Don signing the contract was all about plans
to sell the company and not doing business with Hilton. SC becomes a better buy when you know that the creative talent comes with the company.
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SuitSnob |
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I liked the subtle foreshadowing when Betty was talking about how nice it would be to have Thanksgiving at the family manse one last time...Thanksgiving 1963
was NOT fun at all, what with everyone still reeling from the Kennedy assassination.
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Angelica2003 |
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I liked the subtle foreshadowing when Betty was talking about how nice it would be to have Thanksgiving at the family manse one last time...Thanksgiving 1963 was NOT fun at all, what with everyone still reeling from the Kennedy assassination. Nice, Mad Men style = squirmy for everyone else. YAY!!!!! That's what I love about this show--it makes you squirm, but you can hardly wait until the next time. |
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2Legit |
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My vote is that the "hang-up" call was from the teacher chick - even though she denies it. When Sally answered the phone, Miss fisher knew that
she'd recognize her voice and couldn't come up with a cover story fast enough to respond.
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tarzan groupie |
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yeah, it was obvious it was the teacher, just from her reaction when Don asked her. She immediately got huffy. Huffy = guilt.
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factoryhurl |
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i hate the teacher bitch. she seems really sub par for don. he's slipping.
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scepticA |
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I missed the date on the divorce decree, and even if I noticed, I don't know precisely when Don and Betty were courting.
Instead, I thought that Betty (and maybe us?) were completely misunderstanding the reality of the contents. Here's what I thought - It was the original Don that was divorced, but the "other" Don, the pre-Don Don, the real one. (Was there a date on the divorce papers? Were they clearly after the Korean War?) So too the house deed, which is for the first Don's wife, probably the only person in the world with whom Don is truly comfortable. My instant reaction was that Betty was seeing a confusing amalgam of papers from DIck Whitman, the original Don Draper, and the current Don Draper, all piled in that little shoe box - and I liked the foreshadowing of Betty and the drawer two episodes ago when she just casually tried to open it after hanging up the phone. Anyway, I don't think she has any idea what she saw, but knew it wasn't good. How can her Don explain the contents in any semblance of believability, especially when the truth is perhaps the most unbelievable story of all? I too shouted, "Write it down!" to Paul. But the coolest part of that whole scenario was when they were with Don, whose first reaction to the news that Paul forgot to write down his idea was sympathetic: I hate when that happens. Then Peggy went on her 'lightbulb moment' about what Paul said, and when she was done Paul looked at her with unabashed surprise and almost admiration. I don't recall the specific thing he said, but basically it was a soft, "Damn...." I think a lesser person would have been worried, but it felt like Paul knew that Peggy - his partner on the project - was pretty damn smart. Great episode. I like the work stuff better than the home stuff also. |
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maxxfisher |
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I loved the part where Don called Betty about the awards dinner and he asked what's wrong
"What's wrong? WHAT'S WRONG!?!?!? You want to know what's wrong" and then she realized he has no idea why she's mad |
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StarrEise |
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For a slow episode, it really packed a punch.
I love how this show takes you from liking a character, to love, to hate, to pity, then back to like all over again. I've despised Betty for awhile, but this episode made me feel sorry for her again, and that look at the banquet she gave Don would make any normal man fear for his life. He'd better not fall asleep around her any time soon. And I've gone from loving Don, to feeling sorry for him, to liking him, to despising him as much as I've ever despised Betty. Mad Men <3. |
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Angelica2003 |
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StarrEise wrote:Ditto on the despising Don--speaking from experience on a cheating dog husband. Sometimes it just gets too real. Don't feel sorry for me though--I cut the cheater loose--something Betty needs to do. |
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scepticA wrote:I didn't see that in Paul's face. I saw an unhappy realization that she was, in fact, better at this than he is. It would be great if it was an "ah-ha" moment where the sexist veil falls from his eyes and from this point on, he respects and supports her, but I suspect just the opposite. The British guy--the character's name is Layne Pryce and, more interestingly, the actor (Jared Harris) is the son of Richard Harris. Huh. |
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scepticA wrote: I'm sure Betty doesn't understand all that she found either. On a previous episode, it was shown that Don asked the real Mrs. Draper for a divorce so he could ask Betty to marry him. So the divorce was from our Don, not the original Don. In any case, I don't see how he's going to come up with any good explanation for not telling her prior to this. |
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Ooga Ooga |
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Paul had this great idea when he was semi-drunk. So the odds are that he will remember it within a few days. That's my experience with having ideas I
thought were great but then forgot temporarily.
Besides, I thought the idea had to have something to do with the expression, "Achilles Heel" and the fact that telegrams provided a written record of a communication whereas phone calls do not. I figured that when that idea was put forward in their meeting, Paul would have remembered his idea. |
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maxxfisher |
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Pauls ideas tend to suck anyway so whatever brilliance he thought he had I bet Don would shoot it down
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ThaimeAfterThaime |
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scepticA wrote:I don't think they showed a date, but we don't need to see one. We know Don got the divorce to marry Betty. Therefore the divorce decree came after they were together, which would make it even worse. Betty was basically dating a married man who never told her he was ever married. Maybe that won't be a plot point, but it's something I thought of when it played out. |
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chidelta |
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I like the way the episode themes creep into even the more minor characters on the show, like Cooper and the British guy. They all had their Achilles'
Heel in last night's episode.
For me, Cooper had the best tell-it-like-it-is line last night, when he said to the Brit: "You really like to pour the honey on, and then lick it right off, don't you." |
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Karo |
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It's my first post so please be kind.
Did anyone notice the book Betty was reading in the bathtub: It's "The Group," by Mary McCarthy, one of the bestsellers of 1963. It's an awesome book, and a real feminist landmark. Eight Vassar
graduates from the class of 1933 discover what it means to be women, mostly that men are either heels, weak, or unnecessary. For its time it's quite bold,
sexually. They made a movie (1966) but it's not nearly as good, except for a young, incredibly hot Candace Bergen as Lakey, the lesbian character who ends
up rocking everyone's world.
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