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Antithesys		#6481	[-]
Posts: 25427 (10/22/09 7:15 PM) Gadabout Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A small-market team needs to build its organization around players who have the talent of the top-tier stars but also a love of the game that trumps their desire to become rich. A small-market owner needs to convince his free-agency players that Ripken, Gwynn, and Puckett are among this generation's favorite stars because they didn't follow the money, they let other players and millions of fans follow them. They're in the Hall as much for their intangibles as for their talent. Once you get past about $10 million the higher numbers don't really matter, you're rich no matter what. You can choose to be rich as an also-ran in pinstripes or you can be the standout star on a team and fanbase that would truly appreciate you and make you their leader for as long as you chose to play the game. And that message needs to be louder than the silky whispering of agents in players' ears.
thecolbster		#6482	[-]
Posts: 1483 (10/22/09 7:17 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	That's almost poetic. So you're worried about Mauer?
GameShowMyAss		#6483	[-]
Posts: 5247 (10/22/09 7:18 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Carl Crawford - the only CC that matters.
Antithesys		#6484	[-]
Posts: 25429 (10/22/09 7:32 PM) Gadabout Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'm not worried about Mauer, the team will sell itself to Virginia to raise the money for Mauer. I'm worried about the team we build around Mauer. If we spend too much on him then he'll just be a lonely .350 hitter on a fourth-place Boston farm team. To use the Twins as an example, they're a winning, competitive club, with a national fanbase and an excellent reputation. All indications are that every guy on the team loves playing there. So what they need to be convinced of is, if you're having fun, and winning, and kids in the heart of the south side of Chicago are wearing your jerseys, why leave? If everyone stays, nothing changes, you still have fun, you still win, and you still earn just as much if not more respect from the entire country. Play as a team and stay as a team.
ColbyRulesAll		#6485	[-]
Posts: 11293 (10/22/09 8:04 PM) Annoying sports freak Reply Quote More Recent Posts	So what they need to be convinced of is, if you're having fun, and winning, and kids in the heart of the south side of Chicago are wearing your jerseys, why leave? Whatever, dude. We'll see how your team does now that they'll have to play outside in the cold for 2 months a season. White Sox will pwn the Twins next season.
memyselfandi		#6486	[-]
Posts: 19427 (10/22/09 8:05 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yay more umpire fuckups!
memyselfandi		#6487	[-]
Posts: 19428 (10/22/09 8:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	BobbyBrown06 wrote: Debrun, the WS is not a 9 game series. yw. <3 BoBro <3 Also LOL at twisted getting a new sports thread cheerleader in youfist.
memyselfandi		#6488	[-]
Posts: 19429 (10/22/09 8:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Who the hell is this Angels pitcher? I can't read the back of his jersey. Is it LaTroy Hawkins?
aquatic birdboy		#6489	[-]
Posts: 5395 (10/22/09 8:16 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	YEAH MATSUI YOU MUPPET-FACED MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
memyselfandi		#6490	[-]
Posts: 19430 (10/22/09 8:17 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	twistedzman wrote: I can honestly say there has never been a fan base that has experienced more pain and suffering in one season than Mets fans. Shit they don't make a big enough eyeroll icon for that.
thecolbster		#6491	[-]
Posts: 1484 (10/22/09 8:26 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Antithesys wrote: I'm not worried about Mauer, the team will sell itself to Virginia to raise the money for Mauer. I'm worried about the team we build around Mauer. If we spend too much on him then he'll just be a lonely .350 hitter on a fourth-place Boston farm team. To use the Twins as an example, they're a winning, competitive club, with a national fanbase and an excellent reputation. All indications are that every guy on the team loves playing there. So what they need to be convinced of is, if you're having fun, and winning, and kids in the heart of the south side of Chicago are wearing your jerseys, why leave? If everyone stays, nothing changes, you still have fun, you still win, and you still earn just as much if not more respect from the entire country. Play as a team and stay as a team. Totally agree. It's just the lure of money. When the players start to realize there really isn't a huge difference between $20 million and $30 million (you're rich either way) and it's not a sign of one's importance, things may calm down. I'm in area with a lot of major league prospects out of high school. The Twins are one of the three teams that are often touted as great minor league franchises to go to. On a side note, didn't Morneau say he'd never talk Mauer again if he went for the big bucks?
scrubsoft		#6492	[-]
Posts: 835 (10/22/09 8:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	sadllama wrote: I never said they weren't a large market. Most of their payroll goes towards paying their talented homegrown players like Howard and Hamels. Who was the last big free agent they signed? Ibanez? Yeah, ok. Congrats to the Yankees though, as the Mets proved, not even a huge payroll will make you a contender so they do deserve credit. I hate the Yankees and the Phillies (poor Pirates fan myself, but poor hubby is suffering Mets fan, so our hatred for both is strong). But I have been lucky enough to take my family to many Lakewood Blueclaws (single A Phillies team) games since they came into existence, and have seen Hamels, Howard, Ruiz,Tejada, and Victorino get their feet wet there. Even though I don't like the Phillies, I am going to root for them because of their homegrown nature. Oh, and the Yankees are evil.
B DeBrun		#6493	[-]
Posts: 21939 (10/22/09 8:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	thecolbster wrote: Antithesys wrote: I'm not worried about Mauer, the team will sell itself to Virginia to raise the money for Mauer. I'm worried about the team we build around Mauer. If we spend too much on him then he'll just be a lonely .350 hitter on a fourth-place Boston farm team. To use the Twins as an example, they're a winning, competitive club, with a national fanbase and an excellent reputation. All indications are that every guy on the team loves playing there. So what they need to be convinced of is, if you're having fun, and winning, and kids in the heart of the south side of Chicago are wearing your jerseys, why leave? If everyone stays, nothing changes, you still have fun, you still win, and you still earn just as much if not more respect from the entire country. Play as a team and stay as a team. Totally agree. It's just the lure of money. When the players start to realize there really isn't a huge difference between $20 million and $30 million (you're rich either way) and it's not a sign of one's importance, things may calm down. I'm in area with a lot of major league prospects out of high school. The Twins are one of the three teams that are often touted as great minor league franchises to go to. On a side note, didn't Morneau say he'd never talk Mauer again if he went for the big bucks? Agreed the 10M may not make much of a difference by and of itself, but if that extra 10M makes you the highest paid 2B, SS, etc, in the game or on the team, it's a big deal. I've always been a huge Twins fan for this reason: it's always been a solid organization that does things the right way, plays the right way, and knows its limits. If they can't afford someone, off he goes and yet they manage to carry on. And this is where I have an issue. Wasn't Carl Pohlad the richest owner in baseball? (when he was alive) I think he could have shelled out a few more clams.
FiveMorePeople		#6494	[-]
Posts: 214 (10/22/09 9:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The fucking Angels are going to fucking give me a fucking coronary.
B DeBrun		#6495	[-]
Posts: 21942 (10/22/09 9:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Back to NY!
BobbyBrown06		#6496	[-]
Posts: 13765 (10/22/09 9:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Real World 20 style baby. No chance. Yanks in 6.
FiveMorePeople		#6497	[-]
Posts: 215 (10/22/09 9:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	On talent alone, they should. But I don't underestimate Girardi's ability to give a game away. Or hopefully two.
SurvivorGuy24		#6498	[-]
Posts: 884 (10/22/09 9:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	At least force a game 7, make the Yanks fans sweat a little.
B DeBrun		#6499	[-]
Posts: 21944 (10/22/09 9:47 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FiveMorePeople wrote: On talent alone, they should. But I don't underestimate Girardi's ability to give a game away. Or hopefully two. Hughes has not been having a good postseason. And now Joba as well.
thecolbster		#6500	[-]
Posts: 1485 (10/22/09 9:49 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Unless you live within a hundred mile radius from Manhattan, I don't understand how anyone can be a Yankee fan.

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